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TSA rips dying Leukemia patient's bandages off, ruins meds, makes her last trip to Hawaii, hell.

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posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 02:29 AM
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This is utterly reprehensible. I can't even begin to articulate the level of contempt I am currently feeling for the people who did this to this poor, sick woman.
Shame on them!




posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 03:03 AM
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Is safety really worth people like this woman being treated in such a manner? If this is true as reported, I consider it horrific. And I use that word without exaggeration. No one but a physician should be allowed to do the things reported here, and only in a safe medical environment and with full consent in my opinion.

Are we safer because of this? Is our safety worth this?

Peace.



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 08:39 AM
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But this guy slips through their security and fly's across the country boarding several planes with no ID or passport.
I guess they were too busy with grannys on wheelchairs and little children.

uk.news.yahoo.com...



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by AK907ICECOLD
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BTW, I work jobs in which a real man does, no office clerical cubical, sissy crap. Common sense is not so common these days. But as my father has always told me "I only want you to be happy."


what i think whenever i hear this idiotic crap spouted by someone is 'i am too stupid to work with my brain so i have to work with my hands'



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 11:58 AM
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What is with the behaviour of these people? In the States if not TSA then some branch / arm of LEO seem to be abusing human rights. I have no appetite to visit the States in the future (never say never I guess) but with the abuse of power at the airports over there I wouldn't want to put myself through it. I would hate the thought of my parents/relatives travelling there and being bullied and abused.
p.s been to USA numerous times early/mid nineties and apart from my British sense of humour not being readily understood as "joking" I had a great time.
I pity the citizens today.



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 01:14 PM
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Amen brother. To hell with petitions. Hurt them in their wallets. They might get the picture.



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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I am happy this took place.

I think it is a good idea to check EVERY PERSONS in a wheelchair or ANYONE with any type of liquid. It has to be done.

What is stopping terrorists from pretending to be sick? All to gain sympothy and all to bypass security?!.

Checks like this are needed! Regardless of person or disease.



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by TruthSeekersRUS
I am happy this took place.

I think it is a good idea to check EVERY PERSONS in a wheelchair or ANYONE with any type of liquid. It has to be done.

What is stopping terrorists from pretending to be sick? All to gain sympothy and all to bypass security?!.

Checks like this are needed! Regardless of person or disease.



I have never had to have a patdown by TSA, ever. I have been on a commerical plane 43 times in 5 years. It has always been the same. Shoes off and carry on luggage are to go into the belt fed x ray scanner. You then remove all metal objects on person. You then walk pass the metal detector. After three failures you then get wanded and searched. That's how it has gone down everytime and based on what I have seen with my own two eyes, checks like this, posted by the OP, are one in a million +.
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posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by TruthSeekersRUS
I am happy this took place.

I think it is a good idea to check EVERY PERSONS in a wheelchair or ANYONE with any type of liquid. It has to be done.

What is stopping terrorists from pretending to be sick? All to gain sympothy and all to bypass security?!.

Checks like this are needed! Regardless of person or disease.


Your are jokeing?

This persons health was put in jeperdy! At the very least a Medical expert should have been brought in!

And the UK can keep terrorists off our planes without rapeing people and putting peoples health at risk!



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by crazyewok

Originally posted by TruthSeekersRUS
I am happy this took place.

I think it is a good idea to check EVERY PERSONS in a wheelchair or ANYONE with any type of liquid. It has to be done.

What is stopping terrorists from pretending to be sick? All to gain sympothy and all to bypass security?!.

Checks like this are needed! Regardless of person or disease.


Your are jokeing?

This persons health was put in jeperdy! At the very least a Medical expert should have been brought in!

And the UK can keep terrorists off our planes without rapeing people and putting peoples health at risk!


Have you even been to a airport? Every large commerical airport has a mini clinic. I'm more then sure they had the same IV liquid this woman was using. So even tho they tested her IV drip, I'm more then sure it was replaced!
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posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by TruthSeekersRUS


Have you even been to a airport? Every large commerical airport has a mini clinic. I'm more then sure they had the same IV liquid this woman was using. So even tho they tested her IV drip, I'm more then sure it was replaced!
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Yes I collapsed in JFK and had TSA agents shouting at me to get up and threating to get the poilce. No getting medical help.

So you can take your TSA and shove em.



posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by TruthSeekersRUS
I am happy this took place.

I think it is a good idea to check EVERY PERSONS in a wheelchair or ANYONE with any type of liquid. It has to be done.

What is stopping terrorists from pretending to be sick? All to gain sympothy and all to bypass security?!.

Checks like this are needed! Regardless of person or disease.







" I am happy this took place " Are we desperate for attention ? Ya may care to follow up on the whole liquid thingy. Originating in England however the " Concept " was simply that, a concept. It's always a joy to meet people who will bend over at the behest of their governments slightest whim. I am happy you are a good little obedient fellow.
Speaking of the evil terrorists. Go to the TSA website and they will tell you EXACTLY how you can bypass the
whole screening thing AND bring along your 100 pounds of explosives. Fairly entertaining, but they would rather buy screening machines from the Chertoff Group and assault the traveling public. You're a hoot!




posted on Apr, 25 2013 @ 07:32 PM
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"Follow up on the liquid thingy"

Hand sanitizer is not allowed on flights, but lighters are?

WHAT IF this womans IV drip was full of fuel? And the needles going into her arm were fake? These medical bags are made to resist punctures, so I would assume it can hold normal gas for sometime.

You make me out to sound crazy. When all I am doing is expressing my common sense.



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 02:47 AM
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Okay, still does'nt change the fact that she was denied privacy when she had requested it. Does'nt policy show that she has a right to privacy an a witness? You defend your "TSA" a little too much, I'm sure the old lady was a scary terrorist full of "fuel" in her saline bags, OHHHH!!!
The overall underlying issue is how these TSA agents treat people at airports, its not sanctioned.
I remembered they tried to hold me up because of my "assault pack" was full to bursting an I straight up told them that I'm military AD AR an as long as I am in uniform with full credits they were'nt gonna go thru my pack, that they could run it in their conveyer belt xray machine, the supervisor actually had half a brain and let me thru, as I was walking away, I laughed at the tsa agent qouting, "yea, like I'M THE BAD GUY" smh...



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Arnie123
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Okay, still does'nt change the fact that she was denied privacy when she had requested it. Does'nt policy show that she has a right to privacy an a witness?.................................................................................... I'm "yea, like I'M THE BAD GUY" smh...



Arnie
I may be full of it, however I believe most miss TSA's REAL agenda. " Line up, comply and obey " The other side of that coin is many people in previous posts say " Why doesn't somebody do something? "
The question then becomes what can / should one do when witness to such abuse ? In my opinion one may begin with something as simple as a chant of " Leave her alone " ( free speech ) get the crowd EMOTIONALLY charged. It would then hopefully escalate into the masses ( whom are already RIGHTFULLY pissed with TSA ) getting physically involved. Perhaps surrounding the women, thereby temporarily stopping the assault. Of course there would be a price to pay by all involved. Missed flights, possible arrest. Why don't people resist ? They are all retch and no vomit ! They fear the consequences of acting on an obvious injustice. I don't exclude myself from the fear factor. I, like many, no longer fly. Not as an act of passive resistance but I have a bad temper. I know if one of those ass wipes grabbed my junk I'd respond in kind. All previous encounters with these scum simply involved an exchange of cute insults. Later encounters escalated to the use of vulgarity. I've never encountered a TSA employee within my social circle. I couldn't help myself, I'd dress him /her down.
I applaud all who deny them service or respect. Okay, I'm done. Good on you for standing your ground !



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 12:05 PM
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If I were a terrorist, masquerading as a dying leukemia victim would be very attractive; especially if it bought me sympathy and a cursory inspection of my "medical" materials .

Congratulations TSA thank you for doing a thankless job. I know you meant the poor lady in question no more inconvenience than was necessary to insure that she was who she represented herself to be and was not attempting to get explosive or deadly substances on that aircraft.

Why my colleagues on ATS cannot get that you were acting to protect people not needlessly harass them is beyond me.



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by lunatux
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If I were a terrorist............,
Why my colleagues on ATS cannot get that you were acting to protect people not needlessly harass them is beyond me. "
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This may be a good start > fivethirtyeight.com/2009/12/odds-of-airborne-terror.html
I don't think I can do a hyper -link so you may need to cut and paste.
Of course this doesn't include all the times TSA has tested their system against a potential threat and they have FAILED with flying colors.
Hope this helps a little.

The Odds of Airborne Terror
by Nate Silver @ 1:58 PM 2009
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Not going to do any editorializing here; just going to do some non-fancy math. James Joyner asks:

There have been precisely three attempts over the last eight years to commit acts of terrorism aboard commercial aircraft. All of them clownishly inept and easily thwarted by the passengers. How many tens of thousands of flights have been incident free?

Let's expand Joyner's scope out to the past decade. Over the past decade, there have been, by my count, six attempted terrorist incidents on board a commercial airliner than landed in or departed from the United States: the four planes that were hijacked on 9/11, the shoe bomber incident in December 2001, and the NWA flight 253 incident on Christmas.

The Bureau of Transportation Statistics provides a wealth of statistical information on air traffic. For this exercise, I will look at both domestic flights within the US, and international flights whose origin or destination was within the United States. I will not look at flights that transported cargo and crew only. I will look at flights spanning the decade from October 1999 through September 2009 inclusive (the BTS does not yet have data available for the past couple of months).

Over the past decade, according to BTS, there have been 99,320,309 commercial airline departures that either originated or landed within the United States. Dividing by six, we get one terrorist incident per 16,553,385 departures.

These departures flew a collective 69,415,786,000 miles. That means there has been one terrorist incident per 11,569,297,667 mles flown. This distance is equivalent to 1,459,664 trips around the diameter of the Earth, 24,218 round trips to the Moon, or two round trips to Neptune.

Assuming an average airborne speed of 425 miles per hour, these airplanes were aloft for a total of 163,331,261 hours. Therefore, there has been one terrorist incident per 27,221,877 hours airborne. This can also be expressed as one incident per 1,134,245 days airborne, or one incident per 3,105 years airborne.

There were a total of 674 passengers, not counting crew or the terrorists themselves, on the flights on which these incidents occurred. By contrast, there have been 7,015,630,000 passenger enplanements over the past decade. Therefore, the odds of being on given departure which is the subject of a terrorist incident have been 1 in 10,408,947 over the past decade. By contrast, the odds of being struck by lightning in a given year are about 1 in 500,000. This means that you could board 20 flights per year and still be less likely to be the subject of an attempted terrorist attack than to be struck by lightning.

Again, no editorializing (for now). These are just the numbers.



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 01:27 PM
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A few years ago, my terminally ill mother-in-law was coming from a hospital in Pittsburgh to the airport in Birmingham, Alabama. She was suffering from a cancer and had roughly six months at the most to live. She was in a wheel chair with a long-drip IV, being escorted by her son.

It wasn't the TSA then, just an indifferent airline called Southwest that made things almost intolerable, They not only left without her, they made a point of getting off the ground before she could board. When contacted, and after two hours of haggling, they offered them a motel room and a $35 meal voucher to a fast food chain.

The next day was almost a repeat but my wife was on the phone with their corporate offices at the same time they were supposed to be boarding. That was probably why they were allowed on that flight.

The TSA represents exactly what was meant when we were advised that those who seek to surrender their liberties for a little temporary (and perceived) safety, deserve neither.
In the case of my late mother-in-law's flight to finish her days with her daughter... it was an airline that didn't want to upset other passengers with a medical patient on board.

I know there is a difference but as far as I am concerned, both the TSA and Southwest can go to hell.



posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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Yea and yet undercovers are getting past TSA with fake BOMBS 75% of the time.


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posted on Apr, 26 2013 @ 01:50 PM
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Oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that, I personally never had a problem with Southwest airlines, actually I get more beef from places like LAX, ChicagoO'hare an HNL, like my earlier post, HNL (honolulu) was having a bad day I guess, who would think right? It being hawaii an laid back attitudes..



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