Unless you have been living under rock the for the past week then you will know that on April 15th two brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev planted
bombs at the Boston Marathon which exploded killing 3 people at the scene and injuring almost 200 others. Following on from this there was massive man
hunt for the bombers in the end Tamerland died and his brother Dzhokhar was captured by police.
In the days that have followed the internet in general has become awash with conspiracies claiming that these two men were not responsible for the
bombing or that they had been set up in some way. For me as someone who is very sceptical of what many would describe as a “conspiracy theory” I
have found this very interesting from the perspective of observing how a conspiracy theory is formed. Now the aim of this thread is to demonstrate how
this conspiracy theory has been formed.
The best place to start is with looking at the actual conspiracy which is still evolving even as I write but If I spend any longer waiting for to
write this I am going to miss the opportunity to demonstrate its evaluation.
As far as I can see the conspiracy theorists are still unable to reach a consensus about what happened but in general the sceptics of the official
version of events claim that the two Tsarnaev brothers are innocent or that they have been duped. They claim that the real culprits are a couple of
dudes who were lingering about at the time of the explosion wearing backpacks and were “military looking”. They claim that these men are actually
the guilty parties and that the Tsarnaev brothers were set up to take the fall for a false flag.
Now to be clear there are other adjuncts to this conspiracy, they claim that there was actually a Saudi connection to the bombings or that Brothers
were actually CIA or FBI agents/informers and that there family has come out and confirmed this. However for now let’s stick with the core
conspiracy and its evolution.
The Conspiracy Evolves.
I took part in a lot of the online discussion when these events were breaking and for the most part it was a running commentary of what was happening
with many members contributing some very interesting news stories as the broke. Then slowly I started to notice “something doesn’t seem right
about this” posts, this obviously and quite righty spurs people on to investigate further.
Now to digress for a moment, an interesting trade in the psychology of conspiracy theorists is that once they believe one it becomes easier to believe
another and eventually a world view is formed. So if you believe that JFK was assassinated by the CIA then it becomes easier to believe that they if
they could do that than they could also do 9/11 and if they could do that they (whoever “they” really are) could also have been responsible for
the Boston bombings. It creates a world view that seeks to find a deeper darker conspiracy behind all major world events and to enforce this
conformation bias that creep’s into their psyche that seeks out the evidence that the Boston bombings were another of their conspiracies.
So this confirmation bias starts a search for evidence that the Boston bombings were a false flag that fits in with a conspiracy focused view of the
world. First the conspiracy guys find a picture that shows a couple of guys standing with backpacks, one of whom has a hat with a punisher logo on it
that is also used by CRAFT and SEALs amongst others, they look "millitary".
This hat is scrutinised first because it looks like something on a SEAL cap badge and then because it is very similar to the CRAFT logo. However it
has since transpired that these men were actually part of a National Guard Civil Support Team, just ask Alex Jones
After days of speculation and calls for officials to provide an explanation, it has emerged that the unidentified military style group pictured at the
scene of the Boston bombing both before and after the explosions could be National Guard Civil Support Teams (CSTs) that were pre-scheduled to be at
Now despite these men having to have turned out to actually be National Guard people stick with the CRAFT angle. This is because PMCs are not to be
trusted and because National Guard can be explained as being normal for such an event. As such the conspiracy theorists confirmation bias dictates
that these two men were CRAFT.
Next I see this video on YouTube
In this video it is claimed that these two CRAFT guys (actually National Guard) were responsible for the bombing. The video shows them before the
bombing with backpacks and then shows a picture of them after the bombing saying they don’t have their backpacks on despite the fact that they do.
Furthermore the video shows a picture of the accused bomber running from the scene and the narrator of the video says that it shows he has a backpack
on. Further and more in-depth analysis of the photo shows that he didn’t actually have the backpack on and as this picture clearly shows our two
friends form the national guard still had there’s after the explosion
Now one would think that that would be it done and dusted, debunked, these two guys didn’t do it. Our national guard friends still have their
backpacks and they don’t look like they’ve been blown up yet it’s quite clear that our bomber doesn’t have his because it’s been blown to
But no LOOK AT THIS!
Now we have a youtube video about how they photoshoped the video, there is actually zero proof in the video it is photoshoped but it fits in whit the
original conspiracy so what the hell, let’s all say its photoshopped with zero evidence.
And to Finish….
I think you guys can see where am going with this, it starts off with some reasonable question and speculation then the confirmation bias leads people
to seek out information with enforces that speculation. Then we have photos of a couple of bystanders who are now the bad guys and to prove it a bunch
of really wired evidence is used “look he still has his back pack and they don’t have their”…. “no he doesn’t have his backpack and the
other two guys your accusing do have their backpacks”…. “IT WAS PHOTOSHOP!!!”.
I realise this does not “debunk” the whole thing but it does demonstrate how wired and bias the arguments form the conspiracy theorists have
People really need to stop hunting for conspiracies and start hunting for truth!
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Welcome to the new world of conspiracy theorists. Its no longer about truth. its about being the one to find a smoking gun, and gaining the notoriety
that comes with it. In short, for most people, its about attention, not truth.
. I just cant take anymore of this. I like you and I like your posts (mostly) but we need to centralize this stuff or at least just wait for all the
facts to come in.
I agree we need to wait until we know what’s actually going on, we need all the facts before we can start making accusations and formulating a
alternative version of events.
This thread is demonstrating the way in which the embryos of this alternative version of events has been unfolding with some pretty week arguments and
really weird claims that are being used to twist the facts to establish a conspiracy.
Just saw your edit and I can understand your original post, I know it’s one of those threads you need to get to the end of before you can really
get my point.
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Let them keep going and it will turn into holograms and mind control hallucinations beamed into everyones mind's.
I have noticed how it has evolved further, I might do a part two of this thread looking at how bazar it really has became
I have been wanting to write a thread like this for quite some time about how conspiracies evolve and this recent catastrophe has presented a very
sad opportunity to demonstrate this evolution.
Like you say its evolved furthers now we have
• It was an excuse to test out martial law
• There were no bombs (or at the very least the bombs were not as powerful as the media have claimed
• Actors were involved
• It was a act committed by the Saudi’s
There are probably more out there but these are the other themes that I am spotting that have started to emerge
I didn’t want to get to bogged down in all of the other conspiracies as it would have made my thread very complicated so rather I chose to go with
this early conspiracy that the two men photographed in my thread were the real culprits conspiracy and show how that evolved.
And of course your statement is relevant to both sides of an argument. Those who make their mind up one way or another without an examination of all
available evidence will seek out and only pay attention to information that backs their original hypothesis.
Skepticism of all possible angles should be employed and a rational elimination of improbable scenarios when necessary. We should be skeptical of so
called conspiracy theories as well as the official narrative put forth by the authorities.
I worry about how institutional analysis and investigation is hidered by ludicrous conspiracy theorists as well as those who decry all "conspiracy
theories" off hand. I suppose it comes down to bias and ignorance.
People should live their lives based on a pursuit of Truth, no matter where it may lead them. Unfortunately some are afraid of the conclusions they
may reach - either their worst fears confirmed or that their worst fears are simply ludicrous.
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Absolutely agreed! I remember when Obama's first birth certificate came under scrutiny. I (an Obama supporter) delved into it fully, looking for
indications that it was fake. I listened with an open mind and got pretty excited about finding something wrong with it. I was willing to admit that I
had been fooled. But my research led me to a different conclusion.
That's why being open-minded is so important. I find myself withholding judgment far longer than most people here in most situations. I end up being
one of the last to form an opinion, but that's OK. I'd rather feel secure in my opinion than be the first.
After the underwear bomber and the back scatter x ray Machines
( were the FBI tried to coerce the witness who PATRIOTICALLY told the truth consistantly, which is in the COURT records )
if you don't question everything the guv says
well, they say you get the government you deserve
trouble is the rest of us don't deserve it
oh, did I forget to mention the vote fraud CONVICTIONS in ohio that PROVE bush 2 was SELECTED
and then there is ALQAIDA [who the US just gave 102 million dollars to] the world wide conspiracy...
and the TALIBAN created by Carter's national security advisor Zybignyw Bryzynsky (sp?)
Oh well. never let a few facts interfere with a good opinion
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Like so many conspiracy theories, you can just rip apart a lot of the evidence of a conspiracy in Boston, like the guy who got stripped for looking
like Tamerlan and how so many people are saying it was Tamerlan, when the guy is more muscular and looks hairless where Tamerlan has some pretty
decent chest hair. Then you have the crowd who think that conflicting reports are rare and are an indicator of a government conspiracy
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