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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Daedalus
You and I agree for the most part. But two important elements that we disagree on:
- The second amendment IS about fighter jets. The idea is that the US Government cannot equip a standing army to out arm the populace. Our 2nd amendment is more about our ability to control our government as "the final check and balance". Secondary reasons would include self protection.
- Felons should not give up any "right". A "right" is just that, and it is (as written by our founders) granted by our maker (whomever that may be). It is unabridgable by man unless done so by force and against the wishes of our maker. My position would be that far fewer violent felons would survive their crimes if guns laws were more reasonable (and folks in cities didn't give up their responsibility to protect themselves to some cold and uncaring authority).
Originally posted by DragonSpirit2
reply to post by Daedalus
I like your system. However here is a possible modification. All violent criminals deemed "incabable of being rehabilitated"should be given military training and immediately be drafted. We would not have to pay them or anything other than feed them or give them ammo. If you love your country then here use up the weapons and ammo we give you until we tell you to stop shooting. Then if you survive and make it back to the U.S. after a ten year deployment overseas you will spend 5 years on probation and a house arrest type system as you are reintegrated back into society.
Also what would be interesting to see how they would react, would be all child molesters and rapists are castrated or whatever body part they used to commit the crime is amputated. Then if they are caught again they are executed.
Also if you falsely accuse someone of a crime and it is found you intentionally misrepresented yourself. You will serve the sentence that person would have served had they been found guilty.
Originally posted by HauntWok
I used to be pro gun, but then I listened to people on the pro gun side and it changed my mind. I simply cannot side with people who's only argument against gun control is that limiting the 2nd Amendment for any reason means that they can't shoot their fellow countrymen and force their will and agenda on the public by assassinating constitutionally elected representatives.
Angle: Well it's to defend ourselves. And you know, I'm hoping that we're not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.
“tyrants whose blood had to be spilled to preserve liberty.”
"When guns are outlawed, I will become an outlaw."