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made me think you thought the injuried and dead were fake.
So why? Why the compulsion to think conspiracy?
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by solizer
As soon as the bombing happened everyone jumped on the conspiracy band wagon it made a lot of people look stupid. Its so discredited now because people jumped the gun.
What is discredited?
Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by Hefficide
I don't think it was offered as a summary of the entire debate at all. To the contrary, I think it was offered as an example of how logical debates can be derailed by absurd arguments being introduced as a means of muddying the waters.
I suppose that is fair to say....
However it still seems somewhat disingenuous to me to typify the 9/11 argument with the holographic planes scenario.
Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by smyleegrl
Exactly, it is one thing to discuss who is ultimately responsible for the bombing (that is a great discussion to have in fact). It is something different to claim it was all fake with actors (it makes discussing any of it seem loony).
Real bombs went off, real people died and got maimed, who is responsible is what is up for debate.
Originally posted by dontreally
KISS is the uncouth way to express Occams razor. The less unnecessary assumptions you make, the greater probability that your argument will remain reasonable.
I think of it like this. In your own lives, how often do you make mistakes? How hard is it to deceive those around you - your boss, your siblings, parents, wife, children?? Now magnify that thousands of times, and you arrive at a complex scenario that if pulled off without a hitch, defies all predictability.
The people who throw accusations of conspiracy around aren't very deep thinkers. Their assumptions are many, and quite grand. First, they imagine that theres some enormous conspiracy, which implies some agenda, where killing people in a dramatic manner would prove beneficial. Second, such motivation implies a malevolence redolent of movie villains. Apparently, there are hundreds of people in prominent positions (or perhaps all of them? :wow who don't give a lick about the lives of strangers. Not only do they collude with others in misleading the public about these attacks, but they must also have an impressive dearth of humanistic feelings, like compassion, generosity, love; or for that matter, the oppressive feeling of
I don't get it, I really don't.
Originally posted by Hefficide
Such materials have been posted quite a bit and I've seen them. Some where laughable, others were, well frankly, rather heartless and ignorant. Most were removed because they included gore photos.
reply to post by Mykah
The problem with most of you regurgitating mainstream scripts is that you have no experience in EMS. Its like asking a plumber their opinion on physics. They are just going to parrot the average consensus because they have no experience in the field.