I do not believe there is one superior way to word, describe, or experience a state, nor are there states of awareness that are "superior" to others.
I see nothing "bad" or inferior about experiencing the physical world, and materialization and individualization,
and I see no reason to try to convince anyone else to "escape" it. They exist on the other levels possible too, and experience them each as they
If you want to call that being inferior, being "bad", being a "prisoner of ego", you are free to do so. It is not my experience (for the experience in
present is much much more- I just didn't eliminate the experience of phsyciality and individualism) .
Apparently ego is whatever concept YOU MEAN when you say "I".
If identify self as something that is feelings, thoughts, a physical form, a personality, with concerns, intents, preferences..... then I guess that
is your ego.
If you identify with consciousness that has no preference, no feelings, no thoughts, no form, no preferences, or intentions.... then that must be your
There might not be a static one size fits all interpretation of that word.
The essence I refer to has no preferences, so has no urge to proclaim physicality" bad" or" inferior". I do not percieve those sorts of judgements as
real. They are for play
, they are for creating experiences
. They mean "I shall be attracted towards this" and I shall move away from
All that said, I understand the pleasurable experience of passivity and submission, and the human attraction to that experience as well- because it
soothes the apprehension of unknown and lessens the response-ability in creating. If that is what attracts you, go for it.
I will add though, that this belief in "evil ego" can be very detrimental to some people, all the spiritual aspirations and idealizations aside.
There are many people, classified as mentally instable, that do not have an "ego" in the sense some of you are describing. That is, they are
observers, they are conscious of forms and colors and smells and sensations of all sorts, and yet cannot tell which are "me" and which are "other".
This superficial personality that you are demonizing is absent. They don't have any idea of what they look like to others, of having any visible
image attributed to them by any one else.
Despite all these claims that is a superior state of being, I can bare witness that it is just as full of pain as being aware of self as a
superificial being. Even without the mental skin, there is a physical skin, and it has pain receptors.
The only difference is that when pain happens it just is... it is everything. It is not "me" in pain, or "another" hurting "me", the universe is
pure pain. Period.
So the statement that ego (as in a superificial self image) is a source of pain as a determining factor in judging what is "good" is meaningless.
The assumption that because YOU love the experience of escaping the superficial mental skin of self concept, so EVERYONE should , is not necessarily
This talk of escaping the grasp of ego reminds of the same discourse one finds about the concepts of "dimensions"- so obviously self contradicting
that it is humorous! -When people talk of "ascending" (as if it is up) to the fifith dimension, and in so doing, escaping or disappearing form the
third dimensional world!
If you have five dimensions, and you take away three, what do you have then? TWO!
If your consciousness gains more dimensions to it, it GAINS, not loses. It is only in that sense that one could call it spiritual growth- because it
is expansion. Not escape.
But that is only my own opinion, my own perception, and I shall acknowledge my superficial ego, so that I can respect the existence of others and
their perceptions. For their perceptions shall create their experiences, therefore they have validity too.
edit on 28-4-2013 by Bluesma
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