Alien body recovered shows DNA not Human

reply to post by 0bserver1


I went to see the movie premier of Sirius and got to hang out with Dr Greer and David Wilcock at the after party (have photos). Greer is a very sincere person and only wants the best for humanity. It's shame the internet as branded him as a fraud due to their lack of understanding and acquired bad information on Greer from the net.

The DNA testing of this was done from 4 top DNA labs and one of them is from Stanford University which is the one featured in the film and the guy in the video that OP posted is from. His is name and credentials are all posted.

Results shows that the being had a Chilean mother but could not gather the data on the father it's unknown. The being's DNA show that it's NOT entirely human nor ape but more closer than human. This is fact.

Another top scientist that studies human skeletons (forgot his name it's in the movie) did not want to give an interview but promised to give analysis in written letter and stated that by bone density that the being was 7 years old and NOT a fetus and they can see blood vessels going through the bone marrow. The being had 10 ribs, humans have 12 ribs, rare genetic mutations humans may have 11 but not 10 ribs with 10 fingers and toes.

In the DNA sequencing they could NOT find any pattern of any known dwarfism or genetic mutations know any literature. The segments in the DNA that are suppose to show mutations in the DNA this being had NONE, it was completely normal.

The scientist featured in the film stated that he will post all his results and data on the web and journals hoping someone out there could find something that he couldn't. He was very secured with his finding and results and stated that he will not express his opinions on this due to fear of ridicule and harm to his career

My opinion the being looks like an alien experiment. Part human and part something else, but what else?

Seriously you guys should watch the movie, probably one of the best documentary on the UFO phenomenon

reply to post by Gazrok


I know he did.. Its a shame someone can sink so deep after all the good work he did in the first place, Why kill your own credibility at the end money I guess. But it seems not everybody has given him up it the science world otherwise these science guys wouldn't team up to deliver the truth, but as said before it can only be more credible if other peer sciences can see it too

Originally posted by samaka
reply to post by 0bserver1

 

I went to see the movie premier of Sirius and got to hang out with Dr Greer and David Wilcock at the after party (have photos). Greer is a very sincere person and only wants the best for humanity. It's shame the internet as branded him as a fraud due to their lack of understanding and acquired bad information on Greer from the net.

Conman always come across very convincingly and convinced of themselves.

the internet has branded him and we only just aquired bad info about greer? It goes a little deeper then that im afraid.

Remember the video of greer standing in a field surrounded by a group of people who he each had make pay 10.000 dollars to participate (yes , no secret was made of this btw) then he pointed into the sky with a laser pen (and only he could do that) and then claimed that there was a spaceship in the air which we could not see.

Then he claimed that he went into that spaceship which we did not see from afar nor did we see it come close , let alone land. of course the camera stopped (working*) when he entered the ship which we had not seen anyway so far so it didn't matter i suppose.

I couldnt find the video i just described but if anyone has the link feel free to post it.


P.S this is but 1 example about mr.greer

reply to post by Rubic0n


No it's not $10k, more like 2-3k and there's reasons. One reason is to help fund the organizations he running. If you run one you would know it's like a running a business. Another reason is because they rent out town homes to stay in for a week and trip is very costly. Honestly is there really a value to put on to WITNESS a once an life time phenomenon?

If he was truly a conman he would of been in jail 20 years ago when he started because it's ILLEGAL. He is all non profit and it all goes to his organizations and by looking at the production level of his movie I can see it's very pricey cause.

He didn't physically go into the ship, he went in there through by the means of meditation.

For those who are interested. I went through the film to gather the names, quotes from their research (this and next post) and then found their bios. These are the scientists working on the 6" being from the Sirius film.


Scientist doing the DNA research for the film Sirius:
Gary P. Nolan, PhD of Stanford School of Medicine, Director of Stem Cell Biology

He says "My interest, frankly, is to disprove that it is anything unusual or paranormal. I would like to prove that this is human. I would like to prove that this is just an interesting mutation, but obviously if you leave your mind open, or I should say if you leave your mind closed to alternatives, you'll never see what those alternatives might actually be...If someone isn't willing to step forward and do it right, then you're going to have it sitting out there forever, hanging in limbo, right? I mean, if you let other people and their opinions stop you from believing what you know to be true, then all you're doing is stopping the possibility of progress." (49.33 - 50.24 in film)

BIO
Dr. Garry Nolan, Ph.D.
Position: Professor
Field: Genetics
Education:

Undergraduate: Cornell University: B.S. Biology (specialization: Genetics): Research in Rhizobium Genetics.

Graduate: Stanford University: Ph.D. Genetics. Laboratory of Leonard and Leonore Herzenberg. CD8 cloning; heritability of transcription states and FACS-Gal assay for in vivo measure of transcription.

Postdoctoral: MIT/Rockefeller University: Laboratory of David Baltimore. NF-kappa B, Bcl-3, BOSC23 transient retroviral producer system.

Specialties: Cloning/cDNA libraries, Flow Cytometry, Retroviral and Viral delivery systems, Transcription and Promoter Biology, HIV-1, Tat transporter proteins, Novel Apoptosis proteins and intracellular signaling relating to apoptosis, oncogenes and anti-oncogenes, NF-kappa B, NFAT, single cell measures of transcription, Carnivorous Plants, and making graduate students and postdocs feel guilty for not working nights and weekends.

Link To Nolan's Lab at Stanford Website (This takes you to Member's page where his bio is - go to the Home page from there for more information about this lab.)


Consultant on possible Skeletal Dysplasia / Mutations / Deformities
Ralph Lachman M.D
(presented a paper on his conclusions regarding the 6" being)
Author of: Taybi and Lachman's Radiology of Syndromes, Metabolic Disorders and Skeletal Dysplasias (now in its 5th Edition)

Book Description:

Through four popular editions, this unique text has been the only comprehensive reference to examine the clinical and radiologic manifestations of all known congenital syndromes, metabolic disorders, and skeletal dysplasias. Short, concise descriptions of entities help you glean the most information in the least time, and an alphabetical organization expedites access to the specific information you need for common and uncommon conditions.
Provides several illustrative examples of the evolution of a syndrome from infancy to adult life.
Presents genetic information on syndromes and disorders, while also covering a number of non-genetic entities.
Includes a section on Gamuts that helps you look up conditions based on individual traits.
Contains new and expanded coverage of CT, MRI, and ultrasonographic manifestations.
Includes more than 100 new skeletal dysplasias, covering everything from their frequency and clinical and radiological manifestations...to modes of inheritance and differential diagnosis.
Offers an updated Brachydactyly section for the latest guidance in addressing these isolated disorders.
Features an expanded Chromosome disorders section that includes guidance on when to test for these conditions.

Review of this book in "Radiology" published by the Radiological Society of North America

In the latest, now fifth edition, of Taybi and Lachman's Radiology of Syndromes, Metabolic Disorders and Skeletal Dysplasias, Dr Lachman has done a masterful job with this exhaustive review of metabolic disorders, syndromes, and skeletal dysplasias. Although unbelievably wide in its scope, “the book,” as it often is referred to, is succinct and yet thorough in its coverage of the multiple entities. Dr Lachman and the late Dr Taybi are revered in the pediatric radiology community, and rightfully so. As one might expect, their current treatise is well written, with advanced imaging and the most recent genetic discoveries.

Link to full Book Review

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST...

CONCLUSIONS:
Dr. Ralph Lachman in his paper to Dr. Nolan after review of the X-Rays, photos, 3D Renderings and CT scans
(at 1'17"35 seconds in film - Dr. Nolan speaking)
"One of the first things that Dr. Lachman immediately remarked upon was the shape of the head and the skull. It was not something he is accustomed to seeing, and it was quite interesting and some ways exciting that the associated features you would expect from a syndrome of that nature, were not found."

From paper - Dr. Lachman. (at 1'17"56sec in film) "This specimen does not fall under any known, to me, class of disorders or syndromes. In many respects the proportions of the spine and extremities are normal. The major abnormalities appear to be 1) the size of the specimen... 2) mid-face hypoplasia and underdevelopment of the jaw and that the specimen has only 10 ribs (12 are normal, 11 rare).

ALSO - bone density revelation. Dr. Nolan "The shock was, and the absolute certainty that Dr. Lachman had was that this specimen is between the age of 6-8 years old. The shock was that this specimen was CLEARLY NOT FETAL." (my emphasis..AB)

FInally from the DNA - (1'23"49 - discussion of medical exam/DNA collection) Methodolgy - Three different facilities did the analysis. He ran four samples with each, Dr. Nolan's own blood, two with water for contamination control and 1 with the sample of the specimen itself. The sample presented a lot more DNA than Dr. Nolan expected. DNA results: (1'38"20" in film) Mother was an indigenous Indian (Chile) B2A. Male (full Y chromosome). Died in last century most likely. It is NOT A MONKEY. It is closer to human than chimpanzee. We are left with a mystery that will require more analysis. All KNOWN syndromes have been ruled out. NO GENETIC MUTATIONS are present in the DNA sequence that would explain the abnormalities presented. Dwarfism and Progeria have been eliminated as suspects. No mutations are specifically related to the 10 ribs (instead of the normal 12). The digits are all correct - no abnormalities. The question is open as to what genetics is causing the anomaly in the face, ribs, growth. There are "other levels of control that need to be understood and answered." i.e.The non-coding RNA (that which the computer could not identify), epigenetics, and possibly things that we haven't thought of yet... (there is a lot of "discarded" or non-identified data - 2 million base pairs of DNA where nothing matches.) - Dr. Nolan

"THE ANSWER IS NOT FINISHED, and it is not as easy as, frankly, I thought it would be in the beginning. It's just like the way societies do things - they try to fit things in boxes. We have literally written a computer program that does exactly that [for DNA analysis - AB] - tries to fit it in the box. So on that basis, people would call it 'junk' [the 2 million unmatched base pairs - AB], but I think we now know that there is any of a number of other features of what DNA is doing in there - it is expressed [i.e. the anomalies are expressed in the DNA - we just don't have a box for that code...AB] And so we need to be careful, obviously, that we don't let our instincts or the programs that we write to match our instincts, make the decisions for us. No matter what, for me, this has been a fascinating...more than an exercise. As soon as I've collated this information into a form that other people can take advantage of, and its accepted for publication, I'm just going to put it out on the web. You know, I don't have the resources to study and follow down every single angle that this opens up, but maybe there is a listener out there who is sufficiently intrigued by this, to do the analysis themselves. And maybe they'll find something that I missed. Great! If additional samples or examples are seen of this, I'll be the first in line to want to sequence it, because then all bets are off. I want to say other things here, but I also don't want to open myself up for...you know, attack..." - Dr. Gary P. Nolan, PhD, Stanford School of Medicine, Director of stem cell biology (see his bio on my post above.)

I hope this gives food for thought.

peace,
AB

Originally posted by samaka
reply to post by Rubic0n

 

No it's not $10k, more like 2-3k and there's reasons. One reason is to help fund the organizations he running. If you run one you would know it's like a running a business. Another reason is because they rent out town homes to stay in for a week and trip is very costly. Honestly is there really a value to put on to WITNESS a once an life time phenomenon?

What phenomena did they get to see for their 5K ? In the video he points and says that there is a space ship near the trees that no one sees , including the camera....


Then without anyone noticing ,including the camera the ship comes near and lands or so he claims since no one saw it , including the camera. Then greer claims he went inside it but of course , the camera did not work or ran out of batteries.

And he took $5K p.p for that. If that is not a con to you then i have this light bridge to sell to you.

Originally posted by gortex
reply to post by 0bserver1

 

Do we know who carried out the DNA tests ? , The claim its not Human could mean its an Earthly Animal or as I believe a combination of animals .

Hey gortex,

Please see my posts for info taken from the film - I went through and dug out/did a transcript/pulled up bios on the scientists involved. :-)

Post Link 1
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peace, AB

Awww, i was so ready to get excited too.

I waited until this morning to watch Sirius. I had a few expectations that were somewhat waylaid. One is the little mummified humanoid. Unfortunately, the 'owner' handles it carelessly so, regardless of the DNA findings, it would never be convincing enough to make much difference in the scientific community.

On the other hand, that which we call 'mainstream science' is already largely and often critically myopic on chosen subjects while still making amazing leaps of faith in others.

Also covered were various people, including a former director of the CIA, who dared to walk the edge on the subjects of energy and ET and who left this life, supposedly (and suddenly) by their own hands. Dr. Greer and his closest colleagues were once mysterious struck with a form a cancer all at once. He was the only one to survive.

One thing I am sure that will rub some people the wrong way is in the communal/meditation sessions shown to try and attract UFOs. We are raised from day one to see that honest understanding of anything can only be achieved from over a microscope or under a telescope. This fear of open spaces in concept and possibility represents us as a species quite well; we are still very much in the nursery.

In all, I kind of got the feeling that this was Dr. Greer's farewell to arms... one last effort to show the world what is and has been out here through decades and decades of obfuscation and purposeful ignorance. I hope I am wrong because this subject needs constant attention.

People become easily distracted... sometimes, too easily.

reply to post by 0bserver1


Is it just me, or does it look a little like the skeleton of a short Beavis?

Originally posted by AboveBoard
For those who are interested. I went through the film to gather the names, quotes from their research (this and next post) and then found their bios. These are the scientists working on the 6" being from the Sirius film.


Scientist doing the DNA research for the film Sirius:
Gary P. Nolan, PhD of Stanford School of Medicine, Director of Stem Cell Biology

From the horse's mouth:

X-Ray imaging and CT scan results confirmed the specimen is biological and is not a non-human primate. The specimen was concluded by the medical specialist to be a human child with an apparently severe form of dwarfism and other anomalies.

This report is not a formal conclusion on the nature of the mutations or the underlying cause of the disorder in this human specimen.

The presence of ~9% “unmatched” DNA should not be interpreted to represent anything unusual about the specimen itself. Reasons for the lack of match can include artefacts generated during library preparation, low quality reads from the instrument, or insufficient data to allow computational alignment against the human reference standard

siriusdisclosure.com...

Since Nolan's report is directly linked it's easy to see the "mutations" that occur in the process of "paraphrasing". Guess they figure the true believers will never read the source material.

reply to post by draknoir2

I guess I thought gathering information on what was said in the movie for those not watching it, providing the DNA conclusions as spoken in the film, etc. might be of interest to some people. There is certainly other information from the site itself, but I wanted to provide outside links to the bios as well, so the quality of the scientists could not be disputed. That he, the 6" boy, has human DNA is not in question. The reason for including the text from the movie was that his answer was complicated and fascinating, and not everyone has seen the film.

I don't think the little guy (he is male with Y chromosome) is an EBE - I know his mother was human, which the movie clearly states, and which I've included in my post, so no need calling me "a true believer." He may very well have a brand new disease that we've never seen before!

This is the type of legitimate science that needs to be done, imo.

peace,
AB

here's the doc , watch it quick before it go's again

vimeo.com...

reply to post by 0bserver1

Sorry to break it to you but no version of the story of creation has us being made by Adam and Eve. NEXT

Originally posted by Rubic0n

Originally posted by samaka
reply to post by Rubic0n

 

No it's not $10k, more like 2-3k and there's reasons. One reason is to help fund the organizations he running. If you run one you would know it's like a running a business. Another reason is because they rent out town homes to stay in for a week and trip is very costly. Honestly is there really a value to put on to WITNESS a once an life time phenomenon?

What phenomena did they get to see for their 5K ? In the video he points and says that there is a space ship near the trees that no one sees , including the camera....


Then without anyone noticing ,including the camera the ship comes near and lands or so he claims since no one saw it , including the camera. Then greer claims he went inside it but of course , the camera did not work or ran out of batteries.

And he took $5K p.p for that. If that is not a con to you then i have this light bridge to sell to you.

edit on 23-4-2013 by Rubic0n because: (no reason given)

You need to watch the film, he taken groups of people of 20-50 on dozens of excursions and each excursion there's been a phenomenon. He has hundreds or thousands of photos and videos from his excursions. People need judge the contents of the data Greer has provided instead of the contents of his character that's not science.

reply to post by 0bserver1


What nonsense its nothing more then an lie of course its human.

Originally posted by Lysergic
You could take the DNA of a piece of wood, guess what, no Human DNA.


must be alien wood.

What's the going price for shills these days per post? On craigslist I believe it was $0.44/post on a thread.
Actually, you're showing that you are both uneducated... and correct.

There is homology between all organisms, in all kingdoms of life on Earth. So if you didn't find ANY human DNA in a piece of wood, technically it is in fact, alien wood. That's correct. That's where basic evolutionary theory comes from, that all life, including viruses branched from a common ancestor (presumably bacteria).

But you're obviously trying to use a terrible example to prove the being is made of something else.

Go collect your check, son.

Originally posted by 0bserver1

Has anyone noticed how much this thing looks like Beavis, from Beavis and Butthead? lol

All this hype is just to sell a video or a movie isn't it? The video clip above is full of "ifs" and "whens", and the whole thing is starting to feel like the Baltic Sea anomaly, all over again. I hope very much I'm wrong, but this is smelling like a scam to me.

Originally posted by Covertblack
Very interesting, star and flag. What always made me wonder was when the Vatican came out and said that aliens are not proof that God doesn't exist. Why would they come out with that statement unless they believed something would come out soon?

edit on 22-4-2013 by Covertblack because: (no reason given)

edit on 22-4-2013 by Covertblack because: Dyslexic.

Well if aliens did exist, while there could still easily be a god, the mere existence of aliens would shift our spiritual/religious paradigms beyond question. It would certainly make some religions look incredibly antiquated.