The Coming Martial Law and Destruction of Religion

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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Can you see yourself in a place as the following…The entire world is put under martial law. Everything a person does is strictly regulated. There is no more freedom of the press, no more freedom of speech. No one has ‘rights’ as we know it today any longer. In fact freedom of religion is just a thing of memory.

A once religious person can no longer practice their religion out in the open. To do so would mean certain imprisonment, and perhaps death. Worship still takes place, but it is now to the state and their god is their military might, such as is happening in North Korea, even as we speak.

Imagine waking up in such a world. How would you feel? Is such a scenario a flight of imagination?

Some say that the world rulers are conspiring to create a “new world order” a “one world government” where all rights are curtailed as mentioned above.

Well, as incredible as it may appear, such a thing is about to happen.

How do we know that that day is fast approaching, and what does one need to do in order to find protection and get away safe in that day?

The real rulers of the world are invisible and untouchable by human forces. They are wicked and ruthless and manipulating mankind, leading them onwards toward their imminent destruction. The Bible reveals who the real rulers of the world are when it states:

(Ephesians 6:12) . . .because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.

Yes, the “world rulers” of the great darkness that mankind now finds itself in are “wicked spirit forces.” Their governments rule mankind from ‘behind the scenes.’

The chief among these wicked spirits is Satan. In his control are all the kingdoms of the world. Thus he gives power and fame and fortune to those who sacrifice themselves to do his will, either knowingly or unknowingly. His predominate mental disposition of hatred and rebellion permeates society and influences it. No wonder man can never find peace and security! It is beyond their control. (Ephesians 2:2 . . .according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience. . .)

But God’s word tells us that striking and fear-inspiring events are now about to unfold upon human society. It also tells us what we need to do to get away safe.

Religion was built up in the beginning by Satan the Devil to lead mankind away from the true God Jehovah and bring them into bondage and slavery to himself. And since the beginning when false religion was formed he has used religion as a form to mislead and enslave mankind. Religion in opposition to Jehovah God really started in Babylon, when, not long after the flood, a wicked man named Nimrod made himself a wicked tyrant over mankind and had them build that city. In it is the root of all false teachings which the world’s religions hold, the immortality of the soul, the hellfire doctrine, the trinity, and others. Jehovah changed the languages of the men building their tower to the heavens in Babylon, and thus they spread abroad across the earth, each carrying with themselves the same basic fundamental false religious teachings.

By means of these Satan has kept the majority of mankind in mental darkness throughout the ages. He also has used the world’s man-made puppet governments to keep man in slavery to himself. Indeed religion and government have mixed together to cause great human misery and suffering up to our day.

This was a small digression to explain, very briefly, the events that have lead up to our day.

God reveals in the Bible that during a time-period known as “the last days” time would become critical for all mankind. But also his light would shine among the nations, and a great worldwide preaching work would be undertaken to reveal his great name Jehovah, and preach the good news about his kingdom in all the inhabited earth:

(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

(Romans 10:13-15) . . .For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth? Just as it is written: “How comely are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”

Yes, Jehovah has sent forth a people with his name to teach others about it, and to declare the “good news” about his kingdom in all the earth.

When we talk about the Bible’s foretelling of the “signs” of the last days many would like to say that all of the things in that composite sign have always happened, thus we can never know when we have entered into them. But this is not true. For that preaching work has never before been accomplished as it is now being carried out by Jehovah’s named witnesses in all the earth. Take for example the past ten years. They have produced more than 20,000,000,000 (billion) pieces of Bible literature in over 500 languages and have spread them from door to door literally in all the earth, in over 239 lands and island nations.

Yes, this great preaching work and teaching the people of what God’s kingdom is, and of his name Jehovah is a sign of the Bible’s reliable prophecy, one you are seeing fulfilled, and a proof that we are in the “last days.”

The last days have an end. And Jehovah God has revealed these things to his servants. What is about to happen?

Far from his being an aloof and uncaring God, Jehovah has real feelings and he hurts at all of the depraved and horrible things being done on earth. Especially is he angry at religion. Many in Christendom claim to be representatives of the God of the Bible, the true God, yet belie that claim by killing each other in God’s name. Really the world’s rulers manipulate them, and use false religion to the end of their political goals.

Thus God has brought sentence upon false religion, all religion on earth, and it is about to executed upon mankind. How will this come to be?

God’s prophetic word shows by means of revelations what will soon happen. The United States and Great Britain make up the ruling world power in this time of the end. Yet all the kings of the earth will gain power along-side her for “one hour.” How so?

It will not be at the behest of Satan, the ruler of the world. At that time when the world’s rulers unite, it will be at the instigation of Jehovah God himself.

In Revelation we are given the prophecy of several wild beasts. These beasts represent kingdoms and governments. One of these beasts has seven heads and ten horns. This beast with the seven heads represents the seven world powers of Bible history that have had direct influence on Jehovah’s people. The one we are living in today is the Anglo-American dual world power. The ten horns represent Satan’s entire political system of things. As ten in the Bible denotes something complete in an earthly respect.

There is an image of this beast that is made before the people. This image, that represents all of mankind’s governments is the United Nations.
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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 03:52 PM
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In the book of Revelation chapters 17 and 18 we are told that a great harlot with the name “Babylon the great” sits on this wild beast. We have already discussed how Babylon is the root of religion, and thus Babylon the great is all false religion. She is a religious harlot and commits fornication with the kings of the earth. That is religion gets involved with political affairs and takes an active role in her wars and causing bloodshed. The fact that she “rides the beast” indicates that she considers herself on top of the world’s rulers. And indeed, even up to this our day in many parts of the earth religion plays a key role in governmental affairs. There we are told that she “sits a queen” over the kings of the earth, and considers herself too powerful to ever see destruction.
Knowing these key facts notice what will soon take place:

(Revelation 17:16-18) . . .And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

Yes, the world rulers will turn upon and devastate and destroy that religious harlot, false religion. During that time all the rulers of the earth will ascend to power for “one hour” together:

(Revelation 17:12) “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast.

During that time all the nations of the earth, because of worsening world conditions, and because they will see religion as an international hindrance and nuisance to their emergency operations will ascend together and breathe life into the United Nations and will think one thought in getting rid of religion. But this thought, which they think is their own, is not theirs. It is Jehovah God’s, for he has judged her as only fit for destruction. And he will use those political powers to execute judgment upon her.

The Bible refers to that day, or “hour of judgment” as the “great tribulation.” It will be the most fearsome time in all the annuals of human history:

(Matthew 24:21) . . .for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.

In order for earth’s political rulers to unite and carry out their “one thought” that they were given, even “God’s thought” to destroy wicked false religion, they will have to ascend to rule together for that “hour.” And thus all freedom of religion will cease to exist. As there will be no more freedom of religion, all other freedoms that come with it, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, earth-wide, will no longer exist.

People will be compelled to carry the “mark of the wild beast.” The wild beast is representative of human governments. Thus all mankind will have to kneel down before the United Nations, and the tremendous power it will have at that time.

Religious leaders will be imprisoned and perhaps put to death. Bloodshed will run great during that time. All nominal church followers, and practisoners of all other human-made religions on earth, from Hinduism, to Islam, to Buddhism will have to flee from her. They will have to recognize the military authority of the governments, and will be forced into rejecting their religions.

Many on this board already have anti-god and anti-religion sentiments that God has planted into their minds. These unreasoning men somehow believe that getting rid of freedom of worship and assembly and speech will cause peace and security. It will do just the opposite. It will cause the cessation of all human freedoms as we know it. It will bring hardship and as the Bible clearly states “great tribulation” as has never been seen before.

Some religious fanatics, and others believe that the time is coming for the “new world order” which they believe to be a human conspiracy, and are preparing themselves by several means. They are stock-piling food, they are arming themselves with weapons, and believe that they will have to live off the wild to survive.

But that is NOT how they will survive the coming end of the world. God has already foretold the end of religion, and being he is Jehovah it will happen.

But atheism will be no safe haven for mankind. While nominal members of religion will have no choice but to flee to atheism and to worship the governments lest they be killed, she will be no bastion of hope and be of no saving power to the people.

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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After God has used man’s political governments to turn upon false religion to get rid of her, further events will transpire to leave all without a shadow of a doubt as to who triggered the great tribulation, and what awaits mankind at that time.

Jesus said that after the great tribulation this will occur:

(Matthew 24:29, 30) . . .“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

In Bible prophecy the heavens refer to governmental authorities. Thus at that time when the “sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven” this is referring to the symbolic heavens of the earth. Mankind’s governments, its world rulers, its “stars,” lights to the world, they will all of them be shown up to be nothing. Supernatural signs and portents will occur in the heavens as Jesus’ kingdom rule as king of God’s kingdom will become evident to all mankind.

During that time people will become “faint out of fear” because of the things they will know are about to befall them:

(Luke 21:25, 26) . . .“Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

At that time Jesus will send forth his angels, and he will gather his “chosen ones.”

Who are the chosen ones? These are the ones since 33 C. E., after his death that have been called to serve with Jesus as kings and priests in heaven. There are a total of 144,000 of them. There are on earth about 12,000 alive right now.

Those who have already died are resurrected to spiritual life in heaven, and then those left alive on earth who survived the great tribulation will be taken to heaven with him.

This is the so-called rapture that false religion clammer about. It will not be all “Christians” that go to heaven. It will be a small group of anointed servants of Jehovah God:

(Matthew 24:31) . . .And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

As Satan sees these things occurring he will, in a rage, gather all mankind’s military leaders to go against Jehovah’s witnesses who will have been protected through that time. There are millions upon millions of Jehovah’s witnesses on earth right now. None of them have weapons, for they have “learned war no more.” They are helpless to defend themselves. So Satan, and his military rulers will believe that they are easy prey:

(Revelation 16:14) . . .They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.

(Ezekiel 38:10-12) . . .“This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘And it must occur in that day that things will come up into your heart, and you will certainly think up an injurious scheme; 11 and you must say: “I shall go up against the land of open rural country. I shall come in upon those having no disturbance, dwelling in security, all of them dwelling without wall, and they do not have even bar and doors.” 12 It will be to get a big spoil and to do much plundering, in order to turn your hand back upon devastated places reinhabited and upon a people gathered together out of the nations, [one] that is accumulating wealth and property, [those] who are dwelling in the center of the earth.

Thus it will appear a hopeless situation for Jehovah’s witnesses. Just as when Moses lead the Israelites to the Red Sea and Pharaoh trapped him there, and it appeared hopeless for them.

Then, at that time Jehovah will move into action. Jesus, as king of God’s heavenly kingdom will wage righteous warfare upon wicked mankind. During that time-period that he reveals himself by supernatural portents in the heaven everyone will quake alienated from Jehovah God will quake with fear:

(Revelation 6:15-17) . . .And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and [every] free person hid themselves in the caves and in the rock-masses of the mountains. 16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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Then those who were resurrected to heavenly spirit life at that time, all of the 144,000 along with Jesus-Christ and all his heavenly angels will come forth to wage the final battle of Armageddon:

(Zechariah 14:5) . . .And Jehovah my God will certainly come, all the holy ones being with him.

At that time Jehovah will not have instigated the war of Armageddon, but he will step in to prevent the whole-sale destruction of his named people. And then all mankind will have to know that he is Jehovah God:

(Ezekiel 38:22, 23) . . .And I will bring myself into judgment with him, with pestilence and with blood; and a flooding downpour and hailstones, fire and sulphur I shall rain down upon him and upon his bands and upon the many peoples that will be with him. 23 And I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’

Let not man think their puny weapons of war will be of any use against Jehovah’s armies. The Bible tells us that their weapons and instruments of warfare will be “congealed”, that is put out of action, as if frozen:

(Zechariah 14:6) . . .And it must occur in that day [that] there will prove to be no precious light—things will be congealed.

Their weapons of war will not work. And then anyone that wishes to raise their hands against Jehovah’s servants on earth, will this is what will happen to them:

(Zechariah 14:12) . . .There will be a rotting away of one’s flesh, while one is standing upon one’s feet; and one’s very eyes will rot away in their sockets, and one’s very tongue will rot away in one’s mouth.

They will be incapable of fighting against Jehovah’s people. In will be left blind and helpless to attack Jehovah’s servants, while they themselves will be put to death.

So what must a person do to get away safe from that coming fear-inspiring day?

The angle flying in mid-heaven cries to those who are still in false religion to get out of her!:

(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.

Also we are told that all those calling upon Jehovah’s name will get away safe:

(Romans 10:13) For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”

It is useless to stockpile arms, to take sides in poltical disputes and worldly wars, all of which are in the control of Satan the Devil.

One must separate themselves from this wicked world, must remain neutral to all political governments, must come to serve the true God Jehovah and call upon his name. He will provide for his people, he will protect them.

The day of Armageddon is not a day of fear for God’s people. A righteous man will rejoice in that time, for they know their deliverance is at hand:

(Luke 21:28) . . .But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.”


All mankind is now being invited to Jehovah’s tent of protection. Everyone loving life will listen and choose life by listening to God’s word of warning.

Armageddon is not a day to be feared by the meek and righteous. It means the start of a new world of peace over which Jesus will rule mankind, and there will be no more badness in all the earth:

(Revelation 21:3, 4) With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

True, a “great tribulation” is coming upon mankind. And fearful things are about to happen, but being armed with the truth of what is about to happen will free you from the fear that many have.

Many know that things are not right, and many are having premonitions that something bad is about to happen. Others fear-monger about the coming fear-inspiring time in human history. These people may not fully understand what is about to happen.

But you do not need to fear. Turn to the living God and learn to love and fear will cease:

(1 John 4:18) . . .There is no fear in love, but perfect love throws fear outside, because fear exercises a restraint. Indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love.

An accurate knowledge of the truth brings one peace of mind. It teaches you what is really happening. You become free from thinking you have to stockpile arms, or that you must become a survivalist. It frees you from thinking that you must become a revolutionist.

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 04:33 PM
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concerning the name Jehova...

the letter 'J ' was invented in 1600, about the same time the old testement and the torah that we have today were written.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Have you not read Acts chapter 4 verses 10 through 12? There is only one name given to men seeking salvation and that name is Jesus Christ, amen.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by tinhattribunal
concerning the name Jehova...

the letter 'J ' was invented in 1600, about the same time the old testement and the torah that we have today were written.


And that has bearing on the OP how?

Are you trying to state that the name Jesus wasn't spelled in English with a J until then? Or are you referring to all Bible names, such as Jeremiah, Jehu, Joshua, Jehoshaphat, and the many many many other names that use the english letter J?

But still what does that have to do with the OP?
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posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by goldspirit
Have you not read Acts chapter 4 verses 10 through 12? There is only one name given to men seeking salvation and that name is Jesus Christ, amen.


Yes, and it is imperative to know Jesus. Jesus himself said:

(John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.

So one must take in knowledge of both Jehovah God and Jesus Christ his son.

Jesus himself said that when we pray the very first thing he mentioned was the sanctification of Jehovah's name:

(Matthew 6:9) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

The name of Jesus' Father is Jehovah. So Jesus wants his Father's name sanctified and considered it of utmost importance. Not only that he said in prayer to his Father that he had made His name known to his followers:

(John 17:26) . . .And I have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”

In order to get away safe in that day you must exercise faith in Jesus' Christ ransom sacrifice. There is no way to know Jehovah and call upon his name without knowing his son. Thus calling on the name of Jehovah, is more than just knowing that God is Jehovah. It means serving him and believing in the son whom he sent to save mankind.

What you probably didn't know is that your Bible removes God's name. Wherever you have the titles LORD and GOD in all caps your publishers are telling you in a sneaky way (as most never notice) that they took the proper name Jehovah and repalced it with a title, because they really don't want you to know his name. That, and Jehovah God's name isn't popular with nominal so-called "Christians" who really dislike God's name.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 06:16 AM
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Who are the chosen ones? These are the ones since 33 C. E., after his death that have been called to serve with Jesus as kings and priests in heaven. There are a total of 144,000 of them. There are on earth about 12,000 alive right now.


It is up to 12,000 now ,it has increased since I last checked. So in the 70s,80s,90s it was 8700 or so then it went to over 10,000. Where did the rest come from?Are they not to die off and get their reward?This either means some got tossed out of heaven and had to make up the difference. Something fishy going on here.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 07:02 AM
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(2 Peter 2:12, 13) . . .But these [men], like unreasoning animals born naturally to be caught and destroyed, will, in the things of which they are ignorant and speak abusively, even suffer destruction in their own [course of] destruction, 13 wronging themselves as a reward for wrongdoing.. . .


((2 Peter 2:14-19) . . .They have eyes full of adultery and unable to desist from sin, and they entice unsteady souls. They have a heart trained in covetousness. They are accursed children. 15 Abandoning the straight path, they have been misled. They have followed the path of Ba′laam, [the son] of Be′or, who loved the reward of wrongdoing, 16 but got a reproof for his own violation of what was right. A voiceless beast of burden, making utterance with the voice of a man, hindered the prophet’s mad course. 17 These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one.
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posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Only one name is given for salvation, Jesus Christ. Only once in scripture has a voice come out of Heaven, saying "This is my beloved, listen to Him." Jesus said to forgive your brother 490 times a day and yet your religion teaches you to judge and condemn 490 times a day. My sister was just disowned by our mother for sending her a gift on mothers' day. What would Jesus say? (my mom is a pioneer)



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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So you are calling me an unreasoning animal for stating a fact there is something wrong with the number left on earth. If there were 8700 or so back in the 70s,80s and some of them did bad and were replaced the number should eventually fall but somehow there are additional ones out of nowhere. It is not logical for that number to increase since 8700 is used to fill the rest of the 144000. So the adding another 3000 would make 147000.(rounded up figure)



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 01:50 AM
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Actually Jehovah spoke from heaven three times when reaffirming that Jesus was his son. And I don't judge people, I am a Jehovah's Witness. I don't' know your mom.

This is what Jesus thinks about forgiving:

(Matthew 6:12) . . .and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. . .

I also like the parable about the wicked slave who is forgiven a debt of about $10 million and then turns around and exacts a few hundred dollars from a fellow slave and has him thrown in jail. Then the king tells the wicked slave that he will have to pay back the $10 million after all and throws him in jail until he can repay it.

Bottom line, we must forgive one another. You may proclaim that Jehovah's Witnesses teach that we should judge and not forgive, but that is not true. If you look into the Bible it says we must not judge and me must forgive. That is also what our publications help us to see.

Here let me show you an example:


*** w05 3/15 p. 6 What Influence Does Jesus Christ Have on You? ***
On one occasion, Jesus related a short story in order to teach a valuable lesson in human relationships. He spoke of a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. One of them, though, had a huge debt and no means to repay it. The master ordered that the man, his wife, and his children be sold and payment made. The debtor fell down and begged: “Be patient with me and I will pay back everything to you.” Moved with pity, the master canceled his debt. But that slave went off, found a fellow slave who owed him a modest sum, and demanded repayment. Though this fellow slave begged for mercy, the first slave had him thrown into prison until he paid off all that he owed. When the king heard of this, he became angry. “Ought you not . . . to have had mercy on your fellow slave, as I also had mercy on you?” he demanded. And he had the unforgiving slave imprisoned until he repaid all that he owed. Drawing a lesson from the story, Jesus said: “In like manner my heavenly Father will also deal with you if you do not forgive each one his brother from your hearts.”—Matthew 18:23-35.
As imperfect humans, we have many faults. We can never pay back to God the huge debt we have accumulated because of transgressing against him. All we can do is seek his forgiveness. And Jehovah God is ready to forgive all our failings, provided we forgive our brothers for sins they have committed against us. What a forceful lesson that is! Jesus taught his followers to pray: “Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.”—Matthew 6:12.
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Thank you for taking the time to drop off your opinion about us. And I am glad to be able to rectify and show you and all what we really teach.

If you would really like to know more about the truth about us feel free to ask me or any other Jehovah's Witness. Also you may visit the link in my signature.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 02:22 AM
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Maybe you can explain why members are "strongly encouraged" to shun their family members who see the false hoods in the teachings and decide to leave? Why don't you explain what "Theocratic Warfare" is? Why not also tell these good people where the doctrine originated and by whom? While you are at it, explain why some "pagan" things are alright (wedding rings, honeymoons) while others are not? Explain why Charles Taze Russell was involved in pyramidology, even basing the year 1914 off of it? Speaking of 1914, maybe you can explain why the explaination behind the 144,000 has changed multiple times? First refered to people "of reasoning age" during 1914, next anyone born in 1914, and now (as the 1914 population is gone) it has yet again changed to "overlapping generations"???? Why are the members "strongly encouraged" not to allow their children to be in any school extracurricular activities? Why no higher education? Why are members told not to join social networks or look at anyting other than the Watchtower information???



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 02:37 AM
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It doesn't matter. None of it matters. Satan can take over the world tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. I'm still one with Jesus Christ, he is still lord and shall forever be. My soul does not belong to me, you or anyone else. It belongs to God. So what you do to my body is one thing, for my soul will always find it's way home.

I'm not a very religious person to begin with, but one thing I know for sure: My heart and my being belongs to God, Jesus Christ.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by Auricom
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It doesn't matter. None of it matters. Satan can take over the world tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. I'm still one with Jesus Christ, he is still lord and shall forever be. My soul does not belong to me, you or anyone else. It belongs to God. So what you do to my body is one thing, for my soul will always find it's way home.

I'm not a very religious person to begin with, but one thing I know for sure: My heart and my being belongs to God, Jesus Christ.


He has been in control of the world since man fell. Look around you, you can tell he is ruling the world. Just look at all of the badness.

As for the rest, thank you for your kind thoughts.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 06:00 AM
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He wont do it because he doesn't have a leg to stand on.He will deny everything because he is brainwashed to believe what ever his leaders say is the truth even if it changes many times. All he is doing is parroting what they say and can't think for himself. Thats religion for you



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 08:21 AM
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There could be martial law after getting rid of religion. If someone posts the syek to the communications (read it backwards) all over the internet non stop without getting caught then killed by some "hill billy" - no disrespect. Then the government might declair martial law and down play religion. When you post things like that - it causes the computer to change how people act. More than less, they will act violent and will be susceptible to strange behavior.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by SubAce

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
concerning the name Jehova...

the letter 'J ' was invented in 1600, about the same time the old testement and the torah that we have today were written.


And that has bearing on the OP how?

Are you trying to state that the name Jesus wasn't spelled in English with a J until then? Or are you referring to all Bible names, such as Jeremiah, Jehu, Joshua, Jehoshaphat, and the many many many other names that use the english letter J?

But still what does that have to do with the OP?
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OP, I've said it before and Ill say it again. No matter what, as soon as anyone sees or recognizes that you are a Jehovah's Witness you r thread will be derailed by off topic complaints, pokes and prodding's, apostates and people who have alternate agenda's and who have ZERO regard for what the truth is.
A post by a Jehovah's Witness can expect:
Personal Insults.
Hypocritical finger pointing.
Total derailment.
The spurning on of extremist, who are like Pharisee's in their view.

Keep your focus on your ministry the way it was admonished. Door to door.
The spirit of the "world" permeates this site.



posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by imagineering
OP, I've said it before and Ill say it again. No matter what, as soon as anyone sees or recognizes that you are a Jehovah's Witness you r thread will be derailed by off topic complaints, pokes and prodding's, apostates and people who have alternate agenda's and who have ZERO regard for what the truth is.
A post by a Jehovah's Witness can expect:
Personal Insults.
Hypocritical finger pointing.
Total derailment.
The spurning on of extremist, who are like Pharisee's in their view.

Keep your focus on your ministry the way it was admonished. Door to door.
The spirit of the "world" permeates this site.


Thank you for the comment.

I realize this. But have you ever thought. This is what happens when people in the door-to-door ministry receive the kingdom truth as well.

Remember the war that Satan is waging right now is with God's chosen ones. When anyone is exposed to the truth Satan and his demons are on top of things to try and squish the seed of truth that is planted. Here we can see it in action more directly as he uses people to spread lies and hate about us. Since you are able to see it it may frustrate you.

But when you preach to someone at work or on the streets or at their door the same thing happens. Satan will find someone to try and drown the seed of truth before it can set root and start to grow. We just can't see it at that time.

It doesn't matter where the seed is sown, once someone has read the truth it is in their heart, and Satan is scared of that because he does not know where it may grow. And we have no control over it as well. Jehovah will make it grow if he so desires. And who are we to try and force someone to understand the truth?

Just as the quote I mentioned above to the poser that keeps coming to my threads to derail them with his continual visceral attacks and slander against us:

(2 Peter 2:18) . . .they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error.

His expressions are of no profit, and they are because of the desires the flesh as God's word reveals. And he uses these lies to try and "entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error."

Satan uses these weak-minded minions to try and smolder the seed of truth from those who are in the world and are just learning who God is.

I do not have a lot of time, and do not post often on this site. Perhaps I should do so less.

But these posers who come and try to derail the thread with ad homim attacks and slander prove all the more the truth we have as Jesus stated:

(Matthew 5:11, 12) . . .“Happy are YOU when people reproach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for my sake. 12 Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU.


I take the attacks as proof of both God's approval, and of Satan's hatred for another seed of truth perhaps having been implanted in the heart of someone somewhere somehow.

He cannot prevent the truth from spreading. People with humble and meek hearts will hear the truth and they will know it. Jesus said these things:

(John 10:4) When he has got all his own out, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice.

And again in another place (if you remember):

(Matthew 16:17) . . .In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo′nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did.
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