Israeli news reports. The Tsarnaev brothers were double agents who decoyed US into terror trap

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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questions buzzing over Boston Bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev have a single answer: It emerged in the 102 tense hours between the twin Boston Marathon bombings Monday, April 15 -- which left three dead, 180 injured and a police officer killed at MIT - and Dzohkhar's capture Friday, April 19 in Watertown.
The conclusion reached by DEBKAfile's counterterrorism and intelligence sources is that the brothers were double agents, hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian.
Instead, the two former Chechens betrayed their mission and went secretly over to the radical Islamist networks.
By this tortuous path, the brothers earned the dubious distinction of being the first terrorist operatives to import al Qaeda terror to the United States through a winding route outside the Middle East -- the Caucasus.
This broad region encompasses the autonomous or semi-autonomous Muslim republics of Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, North Ossetia and Karachyevo-Cherkesiya, most of which the West has never heard of.
Moscow however keeps these republics on a tight military and intelligence leash, constantly putting down violent resistance by the Wahhabist cells, which draw support from certain Saudi sources and funds from the Riyadh government for building Wahhabist mosques and schools to disseminate the state religion of Saudi Arabia.
The Saudis feared that their convoluted involvement in the Caucasus would come embarrassingly to light when a Saudi student was questioned about his involvement in the bombng attacks while in a Boston hospital with badly burned hands.
They were concerned to enough to send Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saudi al-Faisal to Washington Wednesday, April 17, in the middle of the Boston Marathon bombing crisis, for a private conversation with President Barack Obama and his national security adviser Tom Donilon on how to handle the Saudi angle of the bombing attack.
That day too, official Saudi domestic media launched an extraordinary three-day campaign. National and religious figures stood up and maintained that authentic Saudi Wahhabism does not espouse any form of terrorism or suicide jihadism and the national Saudi religion had nothing to do with the violence in Boston. "No matter what the nationality and religious of the perpetrators, they are terrorists and deviants who represent no one but themselves."
Prince Saud was on a mission to clear the 30,000 Saudi students in America of suspicion of engaging in terrorism for their country or religion, a taint which still lingers twelve years after 9/11. He was concerned that exposure of the Tsarnaev brothers' connections with Wahhabist groups in the Caucasus would revive the stigma.
The Tsarnaevs' recruitment by US intelligence as penetration agents against terrorist networks in southern Russia explains some otherwise baffling features of the event:

www.debka.com...




posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:01 AM
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that video is absolutely worthless.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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Wall of text! Wall of text!! Please, make it stop!

First of all, if you want ANYONE who isn't already holed up in a bunker with a wifi receiver running up a drainage pipe to read that post, you need to click the edit button and fix that ridiculously brick-like monstrosity.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:08 AM
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All these chains of events are reminding me of 9/11

Saudis escaped from being questioned about Bin_Laden_family.

But this time , it is Israeli news report



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:13 AM
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Here is a link to the article in the video:

www.debka.com...


The conclusion reached by debkafile’s counterterrorism and intelligence sources is that the brothers were double agents, hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian.

Wow, errr thats some conclusion.

Missing from the story are their obvious ties to counter-insurgency elves who conspired to rob Santa...

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:18 AM
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I agree but for a different reason.

Much like 9/11, the media has already tried and convicted a suspect.

Whats the evidence against them? That they were carrying backpacks like a million other people that day.

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:19 AM
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Debka is like getting your news from the Weekly World News. It is hard for me to remember the last time they were right about anying. Of course they cater to a particulart audience that does prefers a good story and not so much facts.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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i see a faint connection.... recall that foreigners were afforded sponsered flight training by elements of government, and some Arab foreign nationals had flight training at military schools

Now we have very muted talk that the Boston Bomber Brothers were received into USA under Refugee Status...
the faint connection is that perhaps these former Chechnyn's were 'instructed' by rogue units within a government underground which 'used' the older brother to create a 'cell' that was being instructed in misdeeds,

the Boston Brothers were MK Ultra'd




...Originally posted by mideast
All these chains of events are reminding me of 9/11



so you see a connection too...!?



pretty much like the final end-product of Arab-Muslims being flight trained to pilot airliners became a 'cell' of ill-intentioned zealot pilots that attacked the WTC & Pentagon...


in both cases...ill vetted foreigners were cultivated & favored by the US government to some degree (before sinister rogue black-ops got their hands on the 'recruits' who felt obliged to repay the USAs open arms with following blindly the tasks presented to them to do)
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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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Thread started HERE yesterday about the same thing.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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Just wait for the video evidence to be released of Tsarnaev planting the bomb that authorities have supposedly claimed that they are in possession of to be made public. Once that happens, these forums are going to erupt into a full scale conspiracy war.

The media has their man, the police say that they have their man, the public thinks that they have their man. Do they? I don't know, but I do know that regardless of what evidence is made public, there are always going to be the #freejahar people out there screaming that he didn't do it and the #fryjahar people calling for his head.

It's a sad state of affairs that something so horrific can get so convoluted because of people that had nothing to do with it in the first place.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:26 AM
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Will they be trialed ?

Like the suspects of 9/11 were trialed ?

Will you see their face again ?

Will you see the trial ?

I think we should wait.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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Debka.com is a pretty worthless source because everything I've seen from them has been outlandish & unproven, much like a tabloid paper.

As always, don't believe everything you read, hear, or see on TV/YouTube.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:45 AM
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Debka is a pretty well known and widely disrespected source of deliberate fabrication at times, mixed with such a level of disregard for fact checking and accuracy that it's more reliable to use Wikipedia on things.....and that's the mark of the truly lazy at that.

I know it's been said gently by myself and others on sourcing ...and 90% of that really is preference and personal feelings (Fox vs. CNN, for instance) but some sources? Well... lets do a recap.

Russia Today = Direct and Fully owned property of the Government of the Russian Federation by way of a larger media congolomerate they DO publicly and outright own as State Media.

Press TV = Direct and fully owned entity of the Iranian State Broadcasting system. They don't use a 3rd party to obscure that like RT does. They are outright with it.

Debka Files = "We start where the media leaves off" is a good motto. When the media stops short of going off the cliff of credibility? Debka drives right off it, at full speed with horns blaring. Started by two former intelligence officers in Jerusalem (2002 Ref.) a long time ago, it's matured into a 'National Enquirer' of anonymous sourced material, unsubstantiated rumor and speculative theory. Not bad ..I guess...if someone keeps that sourcing in mind.

Personally, it's rough enough getting good info from places I know bust their tails to get it right ...let alone using one I KNOW does NOT.





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