Obama Admin Announces Military Pay Cuts, Gives $102 Million To Foreign Terror Group

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 08:40 AM
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** That's the title of the article. Not my title.

So we are giving another $102 million to the Syrian Rebels (who are in cahoots with Al-Qaeda), and insinuate that we'll be giving more .... but at the same time we are so strapped for money that we have 'take a look' at what amounts to military pay cuts (benefits cuts) and personnel cuts? Is this story correct??

Our Blue Angels are grounded ... 'The People's House' is closed to the people ... but Obama sends hundreds of millions of dollars over to the Syrian Rebels who are holding hands with Al Qaeda??? INSANE.

Obama Admin Announces Military Pay Cuts, Gives $102 Million To Foreign Terror Group

Despite the organization being linked to Al-Qaeda and after having several pictures surface online of fighters grilling a decapitated human head, the United States pledged to give Syrian opposition forces $123 million in new defense aid – doubling the aid previously pledged by the Obama Administration. ...

Critics, however, are quick to point to a speech made earlier this month by Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, where he cautioned that due to financial governmental strains, the Obama administration may soon be forced to consider Department of Defense layoffs and pay cuts for military personnel. ...




posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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He WANTS the military weakened. he stated before the '08 election that he didn't trust them, and wanted a "civilian security force. He also stated he would "stand with" the Muslims.

S&F.


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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 08:52 AM
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So now the rebels are a terror group? And how many people will really get upset with this? Remember how they cheered when Romney said he would arm the rebels even after the ties with Al-Qaeda had been shown. We need to cut off everyone over there and bring our people home.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
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He WANTS the military weakened. he stated before the '08 election that he didn't trust them, and wanted a "civilian security force. He also stated he would "stand with" the Muslims.

S&F.


Seeing how the military has been acting lately I really don't trust them that much either. The rape and murders of innocent people over there has been inexcusable. What's wrong with him saying he stands with Muslims? Are you saying that almost two billion Muslims should be viewed as the enemy because of the actions of a few? If that is the case then we should be at war with every religion but the moonies and the Amish.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:20 AM
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Giving a hundred million to the free syrian people to help themselves fight the HumanSlayer ASSAD with their own blood and sacrifice is better than to do NOTHING at all, allow the situation to get even worse till a regional conflict erupts, and then the US military will HAVE TO step in, as that HumanSlayer ASSAD HAS and ADMITTED to possessing WMDs which can affect us all if it falls to the wrong hands.

Such intervention by US will cost billions, if not trillions and worse, will not even be appreciated by anyone for those who needed such intervention will say it was too late and those who loses will use the victim card and cry foul to the world.

At least right now, the Free Syrian People are ready and willing to fight by themselves and not asking for boots on ground. They only ask for help and, as the UN security is divided, thanks to Putin who had turned his eyes to the slaughters done by the HumanSlayer Assad, UN air support is not possible, unless Putin is forced to open his eyes to the tragedy happening in Syria for the past 2 years to now, and will continue on if the syrian people is not given better help to end the bloodshed once and for all.

Let us all keep our fingers crossed that the WMDs are not unleashed by the animal Assad or by the Jihadists, and that the Free Syrian People can topple the beast alone. If the Free Syrian People failed as they had no military support, or the WMDs are unleashed - even trillions of dollars CANNOT buy back precious human lives, as each human life is precious and means something special to another.......



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:25 AM
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How the hell can they openly admit that terrorists are operating in Syria yet send them all this money at the same time after everything the US have been through over the last decade or so? This should be an insult to every Westerner and all this proves is that when Assad was crying about terrorism in his country, he was 100% right. This is against international law and how the rest of the world can sit back and do nothing is beyond me. 80-90,000 dead and counting and all we can do is keep pumping up the terrorists while the likes of the UN sit quietly? Zero credibility and they should be dismantled as one of the biggest political failures in history.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:33 AM
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As for you get some common sense. This Humanslayer bs isn't working anymore. Terrorists by the admission of most world leaders are operating in Syria. You should be disgusted with what your government is doing and what they have contributed to over the last 2 years. Without out support, this would of been quashed long ago. All we have done is fuel the fire.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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Giving a hundred million to the free syrian people to help themselves fight the HumanSlayer ASSAD with their own blood and sacrifice is better than to do NOTHING at all, allow the situation to get even worse till a regional conflict erupts, and then the US military will HAVE TO step in, as that HumanSlayer ASSAD HAS and ADMITTED to possessing WMDs which can affect us all if it falls to the wrong hands.

America doesn't HAVE to do a damn thing and really has no right to do anything. Syria has not attacked America and it isn't Americas place to get involved in the internal affairs of another country. And it has been shown that quite a few of the killings blamed on the "HumanSlayer" was in fact committed by the rebels. And the if they fall into the wrong hands BS is same kind of crap we heard for the war on terror.



Such intervention by US will cost billions, if not trillions and worse, will not even be appreciated by anyone for those who needed such intervention will say it was too late and those who loses will use the victim card and cry foul to the world.

If we mind our own business we save even more money.



At least right now, the Free Syrian People are ready and willing to fight by themselves and not asking for boots on ground. They only ask for help and, as the UN security is divided, thanks to Putin who had turned his eyes to the slaughters done by the HumanSlayer Assad, UN air support is not possible, unless Putin is forced to open his eyes to the tragedy happening in Syria for the past 2 years to now, and will continue on if the syrian people is not given better help to end the bloodshed once and for all.

Terrorist groups usually do want to work alone. It's kind of hard to kill your own people and make it look like military did it with foreigners around isn't it? Why should Putin be forced to open his eyes to whats going on in Syria? America has had it's eyes closed to what's been happening in Palestine for six decades now and no one has complained about that.



Let us all keep our fingers crossed that the WMDs are not unleashed by the animal Assad or by the Jihadists, and that the Free Syrian People can topple the beast alone. If the Free Syrian People failed as they had no military support, or the WMDs are unleashed - even trillions of dollars CANNOT buy back precious human lives, as each human life is precious and means something special to another.......

More of the war on terror propaganda.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:50 AM
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The bin Laden family (Arabic: بن لادن‎, bin Lādin), also spelled bin Ladin, is a wealthy family intimately connected with the innermost circles of the Saudi royal family.


Bin_Laden_family

So how US govt react to these facts ?
How did US govt deal with the origin of Al-qaeda ?
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And how US govt deal with Saudi family?

Answering those questions will let you remember a pattern that US govt has always been using.



but Obama sends hundreds of millions of dollars over to the Syrian Rebels who are holding hands with Al Qaeda???


Yes , because it is for greater good and it will always be.

And the fact is Obama seemed one of the most peaceful. Romney must had started a war until now , if he was elected.

Peace
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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
He WANTS the military weakened. he stated before the '08 election that he didn't trust them, and wanted a "civilian security force. He also stated he would "stand with" the Muslims.

S&F.




The only way to stop US military adventures* (AKA state-sponsored-terrorism) is to turn off the empire. We need to shut down our foreign bases, bring our troops home and cut funding for the military AND military-industrial complex by 95%. Then we need to cut funding for DHS by 100%.

History has provided us with clear lessons for what happens when the military and "secret police" types get out of control. We are almost out of time.



* across many, many types of battlefields -- US political, NATO, UN, IMF, World Bank and others



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 09:55 AM
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The only way to stop US military adventures* (AKA state-sponsored-terrorism) is to turn off the empire


I doubt that all the elite families give up their chances so easily. They rather pull the ring and self-destruct to get more chance to get richer.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by mideast


The only way to stop US military adventures* (AKA state-sponsored-terrorism) is to turn off the empire


I doubt that all the elite families give up their chances so easily. They rather pull the ring and self-destruct to get more chance to get richer.




I've got no problem if the elites want to pull-the-pin. Let's (literally) herd them all into someplace isolated and pass out the grenades.

Humanity will be all the better for it.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
So now the rebels are a terror group? And how many people will really get upset with this? Remember how they cheered when Romney said he would arm the rebels even after the ties with Al-Qaeda had been shown. We need to cut off everyone over there and bring our people home.


Everything goes haywire when president
Black Panther 1* does the very thing the republicans cheered for the day before.

Shifty shady unfounded thread titles, like this one, are read & accepted as fact.
Then those in the bubble move on, satisfied that Obama is a terrorist & kitten drowning president.
Why? because it said so right there.
Makes me CRAZY....

*Black Panther 1 will also be the new name for Air-Force 1...
after Obama's secret plan is hatched and he's into a term less dictatorship.

Can you all admit your full of **it and just personally hate him?
It would make actual history so much easier to follow.


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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
How the hell can they openly admit that terrorists are operating in Syria yet send them all this money at the same time after everything the US have been through over the last decade or so? This should be an insult to every Westerner and all this proves is that when Assad was crying about terrorism in his country, he was 100% right. This is against international law and how the rest of the world can sit back and do nothing is beyond me. 80-90,000 dead and counting and all we can do is keep pumping up the terrorists while the likes of the UN sit quietly? Zero credibility and they should be dismantled as one of the biggest political failures in history.


Yes their are terrorist operatiing in Syria. They want to take out Assad and the Syria Rebels. The West does not want the terrorist to take out the Rebels and take over the country when Assad falls. It is really very simple. If the West does nothing to support the Rebels more Syrians will be angry with the West and back the radicals. Of course the Islamist did not come along until a good chuck of the Syrian Army had gone over to the rebels. When it was Assad having his guy shoot unarmed protesters they were no where to be found. They do however know how to try and take advantage of a situation.

As for the money? Well we all know the sequester spelled out in detail where money was to be cut. It was done this way and agreed to by both parties so they would be so painful it would never hapoen. The money set aside for foreign aid going to the rebels can not go to the military according the law both parties agreed on.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
Seeing how the military has been acting lately I really don't trust them that much either.


Interesting...


Originally posted by buster2010
The rape and murders of innocent people over there has been inexcusable.


I am intrigued - perhaps you should make a thread on this? In fact as I understand it there were more rapes in New York, LA, Detroit, New Orleans and Chicago last night in America than have been committed by American Servicemen since the conflict in Afghanistan began.

As for "murder" same thing. There are crimes and Soldiers (Marines, Airmen and Sailors too) commit them sure. The military is a cross section and representation of American society. In fact having been involved in recruiting and retention at a very high level I know that the Army for one mirrors statistically (almost identically) the demographic make-up of our society as a whole.

One would think that while the above is true being staffed with a disproportionate mix of men in the 18-23 year old age group who have the highest crime rates in America that given all the rules and regulation in the military there would be a larger proportion of "crimes" committed by this subset of the population.

Even if you count non-judicial charges and actions for all offences (ranging from being late to work and other minor infractions) along with actual court martial offences up to and including murder and rape the military "crime" rate is lower than that of American society.

This is shocking to me considering that this subset of people are highly armed, very well trained (to be aggressive) and usually under a great deal of family and professional stress along with their daily risk of life and limb. This combination of factors might tend to push these people (young men mostly) who are either close to or on the edge - right over it....

I would be interested to see what facts you have that indicate that US military personnel have a high (or even close to) incidence of violent crime charges than American society in general.


Originally posted by buster2010
What's wrong with him saying he stands with Muslims? Are you saying that almost two billion Muslims should be viewed as the enemy because of the actions of a few?


It is poor choice of wording by a leader who represents 310 million Americans who happen to associate the supposed "religion of peace" with the radical element who commits terrorism against our citizens. He could have said it more clearly to make it sound less inclusive of the entire religion - excluded the radical elements who embrace Jihad and terrorism against the US.

He has no problem attacking all gun owners for the actions of a few irresponsible ones…why does Islam get a pass in this regard?

Seems to me that if he believes the common theme in gun crime is guns and that the guns therefore need to be registered, monitored, regulated and controlled then the with the most common theme of terrorism being the “religion of peace” then perhaps we should register, monitor, regulate and control those who practice it?

You know if we could do something, anything – to save one life we must do it. I say limiting/restricting the immigration of men of fighting age from nations associated with radical Islamic fundamentalism it would go far to saving lives. At least they should be subjected to a very thorough background check – I mean who could be against background checks. If they have nothing to hide?



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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UN is a joke


Through action taken by the General Assembly and the Security Council, Member States are not only creating and strengthening the legal foundations of the fight against terrorism but also taking practical measures of cooperation to restrict terrorists in their actions by denying them the financial means for their actions, denying them their freedom to move about to commit their acts and denying them the weapons to use in committing terrorist acts.

The International Convention for Suppression of Terrorist Financing requests all countries ratifying the convention to deny all financial possibilities to potential terrorists. Security Council resolution 1373 makes it mandatory for all states to eliminate the financing of terrorism, while resolution 1267 along with subsequent related resolutions freeze all the financial assets of Al Qaida and Taliban associates. Both those resolutions call for strict travel bans against potential terrorists.

Subsequent Security Council resolutions also place Al Qaida and Taliban members under a strict arms embargo. The recently concluded International Convention for the Suppression of Nuclear Terrorism aims to prevent potential terrorists from acquiring nuclear weapons while resolution 1540 of the Security Council creates a mandatory set of measures for countries to implement in order to prevent terrorists from acquiring weapons of mass destruction.


Though I understand the USA are not sending terrorists into Syria, they are funding them and it doesn't matter whether the money is going to what some would call the "FSA", it will still reach the extremists. Now this doesn't just apply to the USA sending money to fighters in Syria, this works with everyone who have contributed in one way or another. Who has opened their borders to allow these murderers to invade? The UN is a joke. If the UN and their members cannot help when it comes to terrorism in Syria, they need to stay away fullstop and let the country work itself out.

If this was Iran sending money and fighters to the Gulf States, there would be international outrage. What, because Syria are an independant country who can take care of themselves they don't deserve the security of the United nations and the international community? Give me a break... There are worse dictatorships in the Middle East who have protesters getting beaten and killed even now and where is our support to those people? We are nothing but hypocrites and people need to wake up to themselves. We are funding a genocide (Another one).

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 11:40 AM
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I am intrigued - perhaps you should make a thread on this? In fact as I understand it there were more rapes in New York, LA, Detroit, New Orleans and Chicago last night in America than have been committed by American Servicemen since the conflict in Afghanistan began.

When did we forcibly invade New York, LA, Detroit, New Orleans and Chicago? Because there were more rapes here in America that makes it ok for it to happen over there?



As for "murder" same thing. There are crimes and Soldiers (Marines, Airmen and Sailors too) commit them sure. The military is a cross section and representation of American society. In fact having been involved in recruiting and retention at a very high level I know that the Army for one mirrors statistically (almost identically) the demographic make-up of our society as a whole.

And you are full of it. Our military is mainly made up of middle class and poor. Sorry but that doesn't mirror our statistics of a nation as a whole.



Even if you count non-judicial charges and actions for all offenses (ranging from being late to work and other minor infractions) along with actual court martial offenses up to and including murder and rape the military "crime" rate is lower than that of American society.

Yes because rape has always been swept under the carpet in the military.



This is shocking to me considering that this subset of people are highly armed, very well trained (to be aggressive) and usually under a great deal of family and professional stress along with their daily risk of life and limb. This combination of factors might tend to push these people (young men mostly) who are either close to or on the edge - right over it....

I don't care what kind of stress they are under. Nothing excuses the rape or murder of innocent people.



I would be interested to see what facts you have that indicate that US military personnel have a high (or even close to) incidence of violent crime charges than American society in general.

Crime is swept under the carpet in the military so much it's not even funny. And if the real stats were to get out it would make the military look bad can't have that now.



He has no problem attacking all gun owners for the actions of a few irresponsible ones…why does Islam get a pass in this regard?

One is a religion the other is a government given right. Can you tell the difference between the two?



Seems to me that if he believes the common theme in gun crime is guns and that the guns therefore need to be registered, monitored, regulated and controlled then the with the most common theme of terrorism being the “religion of peace” then perhaps we should register, monitor, regulate and control those who practice it?

You buy a gun you don't buy a belief.



You know if we could do something, anything – to save one life we must do it. I say limiting/restricting the immigration of men of fighting age from nations associated with radical Islamic fundamentalism it would go far to saving lives. At least they should be subjected to a very thorough background check – I mean who could be against background checks. If they have nothing to hide?

We should do checks on everyone not just certain people because of where they come from. The only people who would accept that are racist. Just as if you had someone from another nation coming to visit you then you wouldn't mind a background check on you would you?



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
We need to cut off everyone over there and bring our people home.

Definately.


Originally posted by DarknStormy
This should be an insult to every Westerner and all this proves is that when Assad was crying about terrorism in his country, he was 100% right.

Well .. he was right and he was wrong. He is also a murdering thug.
So his 'terrorist' list should have included himself.
Assad ... the rebels ... both bad bad bad ...



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Well .. he was right and he was wrong. He is also a murdering thug.
So his 'terrorist' list should have included himself.
Assad ... the rebels ... both bad bad bad ...


Yeah ok, I can think of worse leaders who contributed to the slaughter of Arabs and Muslims and they were American. What happened to them? They walk free.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 12:22 PM
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Just in case anyone doubts OP's claim of FSA / AlCIAduh link, it has been confirmed by the UN =

UN Designates "Free Syrian Army" Affiliates as Al Qaeda





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