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I haven't seen anything to persuade me that Islam supports science as much as any other religion or nation, or that it has had the worst luck in the world with outside events.
There's a lot in that sentence, and I may be missing some of it. Are you saying that Islam is not being practiced now, which is why Science is not flourishing? Or are you saying that religion is what determines Scientific progress? I'm not sure if, or when, Religion in the West was "discarded," but are you saying that Science didn't begin flourishing in the West until, say, 1950?
maybe the fact that science flourished when Islam was practiced and for other religions it only flourished when religion was discarded will persuade you.
Again, you pack a lot into a few words. I admire that because I'm not able to do it myself.
Its a socio-economic problem as kids of other religions at those place are equally suffering.
You cannot compare progress made by developed countries with developing countries and then wrongly assume that it must be due to their religion.
Ok, you've got it. A study was conducted in the US about the effects of education on religion. Here's what it found:
If you want to compare effect of religion on literacy/education then take a specific country(preferably developed) and then find the level of education among different religious group.
• More education does not decrease the odds that an American will believe in God or the afterlife.
• More education "positively affects" religious participation and the role of religion (including devotional activities) in daily life.
• More education seems to increase the odds that one will switch religious affiliations (especially to a mainline Protestant denomination), but does not correlate with disaffiliation with religious faiths.
The research goes beyond statements that would be easy for respondents to affirm without thinking about their actual life activities. For instance, the survey found modest increases in the odds, with more education, of regularly engaging in prayer and in reading the Bible. And the survey found that the more education one has, the more likely one is to have attended a religious service in the previous seven days -- and it reveals an even larger increase in the odds of having done volunteer work for a religious group.
You're right. But where have I gone wrong? And, have you, possibly, gone wrong?
If your parameters of investigation are faulty and observations and conclusions over simplified then even if you have the best intentions, you may not really grow in your understanding.
Are you saying that Islam is not being practiced now, which is why Science is not flourishing? Or are you saying that religion is what determines Scientific progress?
But you seem to imply that religion doesn't matter, it's socio-economic. I'm
confused, I thought your position was
that Islam when followed, caused
Science to flourish,
And if the main factor is socio-
economic, why is the Middle-East
undeveloped? Did Islam play a part in
that? After all, Israel is flourishing, and
they are the country which isn't
Ok, you've got it. A study was
conducted in the US about the effects
of education on religion.
The 2007 Pew survey found that
Muslim Americans generally mirror
the U.S. public in education and
income levels, with immigrant
Muslims slightly more affluent and
better educated than native-born Muslims. Twenty-four percent of all
Muslims and 29 percent of
immigrant Muslims have college
degrees, compared to 25 percent for
the U.S. general population. Forty-
one percent of all Muslim Americans and 45 percent of immigrant
Muslims report annual household
income levels of $50,000 or higher.
This compares to the national
average of 44 percent. Immigrant
Muslims are well represented among higher-income earners, with 19
percent claiming annual household
incomes of $100,000 or higher
(compared to 16 percent for the
Muslim population as a whole and
17 percent for the U.S. average). This is likely due to the strong
concentration of Muslims in
professional, managerial, and
technical fields, especially in
information technology, education,
medicine, law, and the corporate world.
But where have I gone
wrong? And, have you, possibly, gone