Nestlé CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized – Not A Human Right

Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by karmajayne

 

All the more reason for everyone to protest and NEVER purchase another product produced by Nestle Corporation!

As a matter of fact, they are now on my list of products that I will refuse to purchase!

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a matter of fact, I just did a google of Nestle owned water companies, and here is what I got! Go down the page, and you will see all of the water brands that Nestle sells by country along with other Nestle products!

Nestle owned products

edit on 20-4-2013 by seeker1963 because: (no reason given)

Hey, thanks for that link seeker. Most of that stuff on that list I don't use or buy anyway, which is surprising since they have sooooo many various products. I don't eat that many sweets but once in a while I enjoy a chocolate of some sort. I will try to be careful to not choose a Nestle product when it comes to my sweets.

Again thanks for the link!

Interesting...

"The one opinion, which I think is extreme, is represented by the NGOs who bang on about declaring water a public right. That means that as a human being you have a right to water. That's an extreme solution. And the other view is that water is a foodstuff like any other and like any other foodstuff should have a market value. Personally I think it is better to give a foodstuff a value so that we're all aware it has a price, and then that one should take specific measures for the part of the population that has no access to this water, and there are many possibilites there.

He then "bangs on" about the biggest responsibility of a CEO of a corporation is to ensure the longterm success of that corp to allow them to actively participate in the solutions of world problems.

I won't address his business philosophy but rather his argument instead.

1) It is extreme that a human beings have the right to water.
2) Water should be commoditized by private entities.
3) Water should be assigned artificial value, presumably by those private entities.

It's a complex debate. I find his view that human beings don't have a right to water "extremely" disturbing with the kind of sociopathic flair that we're becoming all too acustomed to from these big wigs.

At least in the states we pay for potable water because a company has to clean in, pump it to you, and maintain that infrastructure. And I have never heard of laws preventing one from putting rain collecting tanks/buckets out so long as all building guidelines are adhered to and it doesn't pose an eyesore or hazard or collects a disproportionate amount. People do it for their private and communal gardens all the time.

Also, private entities have a long history of not doing what's in the best interest of "human beings". How would this be any different? Gov'ts are (supposedly accountable to the people, corporations are accountable to $. People lose. Every time.

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by Galadriel
reply to post by Nyiah

 

rainwater already not allowed to be collected in some places in the US

That depends on how much is collected, actually.

Small amounts of water are not illegal to collect. However, some less-than-reputable sources have conflated the "you can't dam up a creek on your property" to Scary Outrageous News. If you look up the original sources and then look at the actual legal cases, you can see how News Designed To Scare You Organizations really take things out of context.

Here in America. Can't speak for other places.

One cannot impede a water source that feeds a downstream source, that's a given. BUT, in some places in the US (I think Colorado) even collecting rainwater in barrels is more or less against the law. Have to check on that, because I think I recall an ATS thread (the link from which I now see happens to be from Natural News) a year or so about that.

ETA:

The above thread link; and: after googling the issue further, I now see that the Oregon case dealt with a guy collecting runoff on his property in reservoirs. Now, a natural stream is one thing; runoff purely from rainwater is entirely another (to me).

But it seems that now people can collect rainwater in barrels, etc, legally.

Archaic laws. Like fondling a Monkey on the Sabbath. While holding a bible. Or something.

These are among the names of products to cease purchasing. Nestle, Gerber, KitKat, Maggi, Coffee Mate, Nescafe, Nesspresso, Friskies, Purina, Hot Pockets, Herta, Stouffer's, Nido, Dreyer's, Lean Cuisine, Carnation, Pure Life (their water company!!), and Toll House. Hit them where it hurts folks.

Wow, I am going to write them a letter and ban their products from our house right now!
Jerk-you don't own the planet...

reply to post by karmajayne


As long as men, and women, like me are breathing, water will never be taxed, I promise you this... My kind may be growing old, yet we still exist, and will protect our people....

After we die, it is up to you, to have had raised your children not to be fools...

You put it in public hands you get tragedy of the commons.

You put it in private hands you get exploitation.

In the end, I just want to say:

F this world.

reply to post by karmajayne


this reminds me of a book i read by Micheal Crichton (i think that's how his name is spelled? idk that dude that wrote jurassic park) called Next,which talks about how in the future a person's cells could be can be patented


"Frank is suing the university for unauthorized misuse of his cells, but the trial judge rules that the cells were "waste" that the university could dispose of as it wished. Frank's lawyers advise that, even if he wins an appeal, the university as a tax-funded organization can still claim the rights to the cells under the doctrine of eminent domain"

"BioGen consults lawyers, who advise that under United States law they have the rights to all of Frank's cell line and thus the right to extract replacement cells, by force if necessary, from Frank or any of his descendants. When Frank goes on the run, BioGen hires bounty hunter Vasco Borden to obtain such cells irrespective of whether the donors consent."

2 quotes from wikipidia,it talks about other things such a genetically modified animals/plants but the whole cell thing was what came to mind,anyways that is a pretty silly thing to say i suppose we are going to have to start paying fees to walk on earths soil after a period of time :b

reply to post by TheHonestMan

Nope. That is a clear infringement on those individual's property rights. They should be allowed to collect all the rain water they want on their property. After doing that, they can do whatever they wish with the water.

Most poor people can't afford to buy homes, never mind water. What if they're just renting? Who owns the rain water rights then? The renter or the property owner? (People WERE arrested and jailed in Cochabamba for collecting rain water.)

Corporatism is the philosophy of death. Death. Death.

Corporatism is fungal fascism. It is creeping like mold over everything, devouring and destroying everything. It is turning humanity into grey human goo.

Fight fungal fascism!

Nature's way is decentralization. Nature's way is redundancy. Nature's way is free proliferation. Nature doesn't file patents on life. Nature doesn't destroy variety. Nature let's everything go.

We, humanity are not like nature. We can't be as free as Nature is in every way, but we can see Nature's paradigms for preserving life and increasing life.

Corporatism and it's unnatural paradigms for consolidating wealth and unifying control of everything on the planet are a challenge to the supremacy of Nature. Corporatism will be brought to heel.

Bummers.
No more Nestle Chocolate milk for me.
Another parasitic company that needs to die.

I am on the lake huron/michigan/georgian bay water level
our water has surpased the lowness level since we have been measuring the level of these lake recently

the nestle quik bunny that couldn't drink it slow seriously comes to mind here

also these corporations remind me of the titans
eating everything in sight including them selves

well, they remind me of titans...when they are not reminding me of gollums

Originally posted by TheHonestMan
Any water on private property belongs to the owner of that property. It really is that simple.

If someone walked into your house and took a bottle of water out of your fridge, wouldn't you consider that stealing?

It is not ok though when they intentionally buy up land, politicians, and other sources of water in order to gain control over these resources for profit.

People like these are not in it for the good of human kind, but for profits to themselves and their shareholders.
People are being squeezed as it is by people like these, and when they start dying, those same people will say it is not their responsibility or problem when they are the cause of it.

I almost don't know what to write in the comment. The statement in itself is so inhumane you almost begin to wonder if there are reptilian shapeshifters walking among us because this is just...
I don't necessarily believe in that theory but wow... No more Nestlé. Ever.

reply to post by karmajayne


So does that mean that I can purchase the water within his fats? Can I squeeze out the water from his veins, dry it up from his blood?

This is what he is asking for, isnt it?

Interesting.. Good thing I'm making that well. Funny thing is purifying water isn't even that hard.
Here's a silly link. www.wikihow.com...

reply to post by preludefanguy


Thanks for this thread OP! I knew that Nestle have done some horrible things with harvesting palm oil and thereby destroying Orangutan habitats but now this....

It makes my blood boil. Not only is he a complete wanker for spouting this crap but no-one on this earth has the right to say that GM food is better than organic. Nature has worked on these plants/vegetables etc for millions of years, how arrogant is it to think that we can improve on that in a matter of years. Stupid fool he is.

Unbelievable...

I used to like Nestle stuff but i'm going to make sure that we don't buy their products anymore and tell as many people as I can about it.

S+F

Wow, I am overwhelmed with the response I have got from posting this thread. I was shocked at the amount of replies. I have read through a few of the post and will get through them all tonight when I finish work, I am having a sneaky look on ATS.

Thank you all for your input

If you go against this move to privatize everything someone somewhere will call you a anti-capitalist socialist commie,used to be land was communal people use to think ownership of the land was crazy that's why the native people of the America's and elsewhere gave-up land for next to nothing because they thought that the new comers were such dopes giving away stuff that is utilized by everyone, think about this for a second you are sitting under a tree in Central Park and some stranger gave you $20 for that tree most would probably take it and move to another tree hahah jokes on him,so it is with water it used to be communal and soon enough it will be air because of pollution.

reply to post by seeker1963


Thanks for adding the link, It was good to see the full range of their products while most are not sold in my country a few are. I will not be purchasing their products anymore!.