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Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Hey guys, you shouldn't overturn abortion because people will abuse all those unwanted babies.
Originally posted by brimstone735
Originally posted by IBM
Marg, you and a few other dieharders have not answered my question yet that was in my first post. What would you do if someone pointed a gun at your head and said, "It is my choice to decide your life because i am irresponsible and do not want to take care of you." What would you say?
I would say...okay. You don't have to take care of me.
Would you kill me then?
The case against abortion does not rest here, however, for medical practice confirms at every step the correctness of these moral sensibilities. Modern medicine treats the unborn child as a patient. Medical pioneers have made great breakthroughs in treating the unborn—for genetic problems, vitamin deficiencies, irregular heart rhythms, and
other medical conditions. Who can forget George Will's moving account of the little boy who underwent brain surgery six times during the nine weeks before he was born? Who is the patient if not that tiny unborn human being who can feel pain when he or she is approached by doctors who come to kill rather than to cure?
Dr. Kischer speaks about the beginning of life and the continuum of life. Thus, in sexual reproduction, which evolved later, and produced the advantage of variety, fertilization became the time at which the new individual began and sustained the continuum. This means that first contact between sperm and ovum, the initial event in fertilization, became (and is) the supreme moment for initiation of the continuum.
I am not a believer in corporal punishment on a child who has no recourse but to accept same unless they want a further beating.
Originally posted by LostSailor
you're forgetting that kids are suing their parents nowadays for getting spanked.
You do make a point, but at least an abused child is live child. You tell me which is worse?
No, I'm not endorsing child abuse either.
Originally posted by LostSailor
Why can't I terminate an inconvenient girlfriend?
That IS just a joke people, I'm tryin to lighten the mood a bit
Its just a bundle of cells
its my body
a frst trimester fetus isn't really alive
Originally posted by SgtNFury
My objection to the Roe vs. Wade decision is that it allows women to use abortion as a form of birth control. Screwed around and inconveniently got pregnant? Hey, you have the right to the "total control of your own body".....just get an abortion!
It's also a great aid to the guys who seem to have a problem controlling their sperm output....girl got pregnant? Easy solution!
So does a consentual sexual father/ 13 y/o daughter relationship count? If he's been doing it for years prior and using emotional blackmail that counts as rape to me. "Our little secret sweetie". Btw thanks for actually addressing the rape issue.
Early term abortions in cases of rape or the survivability of the mother......YES, (you'll notice I don't include incest....a big NO there. If a relationship was consensual, then the participants should pay the price, if an incestuous relationship was NOT consensual, then it qualifies as rape).
If it comes right down to it, why shouldn't a man have the unqualified right to control what happens to his own sperm and thus have the right to demand that a woman abort/murder any fetus resulting from a tryst that was "just a one-nighter"?
At about the twenty-third week the lungs become able to function, and, as a result, 23 weeks is the earliest date at which premature babies have survived. At 24 weeks the third trimester begins, and at about this time, as the cerebral cortex becomes "wired," fetal EEG readings begin to look more and more like those of a newborn. It may be a logical consequence, either of natural selection or of divine creation, that fetal higher brain activity begins at about the time when life outside the mother becomes possible. After all, without brain function, prematurely born fetuses would lack elementary survival skills, such as the ability to root for nourishment.
EEGs show that third-trimester babies display complex brain activity similar to that found in full-term newborns. The legal and moral implications of this new evidence are enormous. After all, society increasingly uses cessation of brain activity to define when life ends. Why not use the onset of brain activity to define when life begins?
Originally posted by jezebel
I never got a response to these questions so I am posing them again. I am interested to know how the Pro-Life crowd feels about them.
1. If we consider a human to be "dead" when we can no longer detect any brain activity, doesn't it stand to reason that a fetus should not be considered "alive" until after the first signs of brain activity begin?
I never got a response to these questions so I am posing them again. I am interested to
know how the Pro-Life crowd feels about them.
the loss of integrated bodily function, not the loss of higher mental ability, is the
defining legal characteristic of death
Human embryos are living human beings precisely because they possess the
single defining feature of human life that is lost in the moment of death—the ability to
function as a coordinated organism rather than merely as a group of living human cells.