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A Baby's Right to Choose

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IBM

posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:33 PM
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Abortion as many know was a major deciding factor in this election, which it should have been. It is legalized murder and I hope that Bush will appoint new judges on the supreme court to fix this problem the US has. All you people say "right to choose" What about a baby's right to choose to live? How would you like it if I stuck a gun to your head and told you that you dont have a choice to live? Have any of you selfish irresponsible folks thought about that? Yes I say selfish and irresponisble because it is true. Dont expect the government to give you money and help you kill your babies, no sir not happening. This is how you make a baby feel:






[edit on 3-11-2004 by IBM]

[edit on 4-11-2004 by John bull 1]




posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:37 PM
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If men were the ones who had to go thru labor and have children...
no one would have a problem with abortion.


Seriously...if you don't have a uterus YOU DON'T GET IT! Pro-choicer's are not for abortion...but for a woman's right to choose.

Not everyone agrees that life begins at conception...deal with it!



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:48 PM
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IBM

Straight up truth brother!


IBM

posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Machine
IBM

Straight up truth brother!


Thanks, Im not seeing any intelligent responses. The only thing I keep reading is a woman's right to chooose. Well she should have CHOSEN to use protection, or is that choice to hard? Or are you to irresponsible to use protection? Stop being a "choice" hypocrite if you cant make the right choices in the first decision.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:54 PM
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The only thing that is going to happen if abortions become illegal is that women will do it anyway.

Without doctors
Without the sterility of a hospital and clean tools
Without equipment for their safety.

They will do it anyway, regardless of the law, and more people will die from it, because it is illegal.

I am not pro-choice. I am a democrat, but I don't believe in abortions either, but that is for me.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:56 PM
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Abortion in my humble opinion is legal murder, BUT, in the case of incest it should be allowed since incest is a very sick crime. In the case of rape, the child should be sent to an adoption faciility if the mother does not want the child. I believe life starts at conception based on factual evidence such as biology.


IBM

posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by deeprivergal
The only thing that is going to happen if abortions become illegal is that women will do it anyway.

Without doctors
Without the sterility of a hospital and clean tools
Without equipment for their safety.

They will do it anyway, regardless of the law, and more people will die from it, because it is illegal.

I am not pro-choice. I am a democrat, but I don't believe in abortions either, but that is for me.


If they do it anyway, they will go to jail for a capital offense.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:01 PM
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They won't go to jail, that's the point, they will probably die. It's like marijuana. It's illegal, but people do it anyway. You can't stop them, and you more than likely won't catch them. They will get sick and they will get infections and they will probably die.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:05 PM
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To me, a fetus does not have life until it is born, I feel abortion is the womans right, she doesnt have to if she doesnt want to, but she can if she does want too.

I also cant believe your supporting Bush stuffing the Supreme Court with his cronies to do his bidding. :shk:

Oh yeah...forgot to add this...# your Church influenced laws.

[Edited on 3-11-2004 by dreamlandmafia]



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:07 PM
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If you don't agree with abortion don't have one.

Simple.

Then keep your nose out of other people's lives. You're not them and you don't have the right.

A cluster of cells is not a baby.


IBM

posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
If you don't agree with abortion don't have one.

Simple.

Then keep your nose out of other people's lives. You're not them and you don't have the right.

A cluster of cells is not a baby.



Then I guess that means your not a human? Ok thier is a cluster of cells walking and i dont like him, i will shoot him? Get my drift. Its not other peoples lives it is the BABY's LIFE.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:27 PM
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Men when your grow an uterus then your may have a say so in what goes in there or comes out of it, but for now uterus are the women property.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Men when your grow an uterus then your may have a say so in what goes in there or comes out of it, but for now uterus are the women property.


That's just the point. If women would have more control over what goes in, we wouldn't be having this problem!

BAZZZIINNNGGG!!

Haha, sorry couldn't resist.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Herman

Originally posted by marg6043
Men when your grow an uterus then your may have a say so in what goes in there or comes out of it, but for now uterus are the women property.


That's just the point. If women would have more control over what goes in, we wouldn't be having this problem!

BAZZZIINNNGGG!!

Haha, sorry couldn't resist.


Guess what you men only have one thought when I comes to women private parts, so don't even go in there. Perhaps if you keep mister happy sleeping all the time women will not have a problem with her uterus and the right to chose.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:35 PM
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if you have never had a child, don't tell me when life begins.

I have stated my opinion on this several times before. As a woman and a mother of two children, whom I chose to bring into this world. I can tell you that at 2 weeks pregnant and 4 weeks pregnant there is no life, no baby in your belly. Our bodies were designed to cast off these cells during the early stages of pregnancy whenever something is wrong with the design...hence a miscarriage. As a mother, I feel life begins when you feel that first movement of the fetus. That is the sign that says "hey I'm here now, you feel me" until then I don't consider the fetus as a child or a life.

I don't agree with late term abortions unless medically necessary to save the life of the mother....but prior to the "magical" moment as I like to call it, abortion should be the right of a woman to choose.

I also have a problem with people who oppose abortions, can any of them tell me how unwanted children they have adopted? How many neglected and abused children they have taken in to their homes?

Most likely the answer is none. Until all the children that are up for adoption are living with pro-lifers, I don't want to their opinions and morals shoved down my throat.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:40 PM
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Worldwathcer, I agree with you when a women is pregnet she knows when the baby life is feeling her with his present and is not at conception.

I also agree with you on late time abortions, if a women wait that long to chose she does not want the baby I will said is to late.

Also men is the one that has always wanted to control women private parts like they are their property because deep inside they can only think with the second head.

And they can not stand that a women is the only one that can give life and take life even without a man.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:43 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that most of the pro-abortion rhetoric sounds suspiciously like the reasons for the "Final Solution" of the Nazis'? You know, the whole "they're not really alive" as relates to the "the Jews aren't really human" rhetoric.

Could someone please enlighten this poor soul as to the difference between abortion and the holocaust. And don't give me the "it's a woman right to choose" excuse. Thats a cop out answer. I mean, if the Nazis' had said "It's a Germans right to choose", would it make it NOT about genocide?



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Herman

That's just the point. If women would have more control over what goes in, we wouldn't be having this problem!

BAZZZIINNNGGG!!

Haha, sorry couldn't resist.


Yeah b/c getting pregnant is always the woman's fault! Takes 2 to tango...



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by The Last Patriot
Has anyone else noticed that most of the pro-abortion rhetoric sounds suspiciously like the reasons for the "Final Solution" of the Nazis'? You know, the whole "they're not really alive" as relates to the "the Jews aren't really human" rhetoric.


- Oh for God's sake. This really is absurd and pathetic.

It is nothing like the same this is just unthinking hysteria in my opinion.


Could someone please enlighten this poor soul as to the difference between abortion and the holocaust.


- Yes one was the systematic industrial murderous slaughter of actual living birthed people for no other reason than the say so of the nazi regime they lived under, the other is the destruction of an unborn undeveloped potential person.....and with the rules most western societies place on this an undeveloped potential person utterly incapable of any kind of life outside of the womb.

It's a pretty easy distinction.


And don't give me the "it's a woman right to choose" excuse. Thats a cop out answer. I mean, if the Nazis' had said "It's a Germans right to choose", would it make it NOT about genocide?


- Sorry but your parallel just isn't one. I find it utterly ridiculous.



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posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:03 PM
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it amazes me the lack of knowledge that some men have with female issues. Perhaps enough people haven't said it to you yet, maybe you just don't get it, but when a woman chooses to have an abortion, she is not contemplating wiping out an entire race, she is not committing genocide of a race.

She is making a decision which concerns her body, her life, the people involved in her life. What she does, does not affect Joe Schmoe. He is not paying for it. He doesn't have to live with the guilt or the what ifs. His life continues on as normal. He feels no pain nor shed no tears because it is not his business to know. The woman who makes such a decision usually has thought long and hard about the consequences of her actions, she has considered her faith and willing to face the penalty.

Supporting the Right to Choose, doesn't question your morals, you Joe Schmoe don't even have to know what Jane Doe did, by supporting the Right to Choose, you are saving a life and you don't even know it.

Women have had abortions for as long as there has been history. Would you rather women die from drinking strange conconctions and getting torn up from the insides by a midwife or worse? The Right to Choose gives women the medical help to do what they would have done anyways but in a safer environment.

Perhaps if I speak in terms that some may relate to more:
God will not condemn or punish you for allowing a woman to have free will and choose her own damnation. You are not the guilty party and you will not be judged. It is the individual woman who will be judged when judgement day comes and yes the doctors and nurses who helped, they will be cast to the flames of hell, not you.



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