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I don't fault anyone calling it martial law if someone has another term for when the government, and police forces, armed with "assault" weapons out numbered the civilian unarmed population on the streets feel free to enlighten me
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by marg6043
That's just a ludicrous way of looking at things and your "refusal" to debate it simply shows you cannot defend your position.
Originally posted by marg6043
If the police state would use the same effort and manpower that they used to go after one suspect in boston to go after every single criminal in the nation we will be a nation without crime.
Every day is a criminal in the run in any given state and town, but you don't see the same effort to go after them
I guess that is not part of the agenda.
Originally posted by TheHonestMan
Overall, I did not have to sacrifice 1 single right during this past week.
Opponents of the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order, and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records. Since its passage, several legal challenges have been brought against the act, and Federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional.
Nine states have introduced bills aiming to adjust or repeal the detainment provisions of the 2012 NDAA. In June, Rhode Island passed a resolution calling on Congress to repeal Sections 1021 and 1022. In mid June, Michigan began considering a block against any state cooperation with federal officials who wish to detain Americans under sections 1021 and 1022. The bill passed unanimously on December 5, 2012. In July, the Clark County Republican Party Central Committee of Nevada unanimously passed a resolution denouncing the 2012 NDAA, and requesting the Sheriff act against it immediately. The group called sections 1021 and 1022 “blatant attacks on the United States Constitution, specifically Amendments 4, 5, 6, and 8 of our Bill of Rights”.
Originally posted by TheHonestMan
This thread is absolutely ridiculous. Does anyone that posted in here actually live in Boston and know first hand what happened? Or is everyone just jumping to conclusions based on the bits and pieces that they've heard?
First off, I live in Back Bay about a 5-10 minute walk from the site of the bombings. My office is literally across the street from the area that is still closed for investigation. Yes, the area may have looked like martial law for the past few days, but it was far from it. The police/soldiers were there to prevent another attack - not take away people's rights. They did not stop, question, or search anyone. I walked by dozens of officers everyday, and they never once interacted with me. That's no where near martial law, so stop the exaggerations and drama.
Secondly, the governor did request people to still indoors on Friday in all of Boston, as they did not know where the suspect was at that time. This was a request not a demand. Taxi service was still running for people who needed to travel. Let's stop pretending that people were forced to stay indoors. As for the searches of homes in Watertown, I would believe that everyone voluntarily complied to assist in the capture of the suspect. The individuals in that area knew how dangerous the suspect was from the incident that occurred earlier in the morning.
I've seen many posts talk about how it was 9,000 officers vs. just one 19 year old. They always tend to leave out the fact that this 19 year old was heavily armed. Over 200 rounds were fired in Watertown very early Friday morning. I was listening to the police scanner and the officers reported explosives/grenades being thrown at them during the chase. An MIT officer was killed, and an MBTA officer was severely injured and still in critical condition. This "19 year old" was extremely dangerous, and the large number of officers was a precaution to help prevent another innocent person from dying.
The cheers of "USA" was for the first responders putting their lives on the line and working tirelessly for nearly 24 hours.
Overall, I did not have to sacrifice 1 single right during this past week. The situation was nowhere near martial law. Yes, the number of police and soldiers was increased in the area in case of another attack. Not quite sure how that equates to forfeiting our rights. Again - if you weren't there to experience it, you really have no idea what you're talking about.edit on 20-4-2013 by TheHonestMan because: (no reason given)