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Nixon's Apollo: Howard Hughes and the Apollo Hoax

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posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 12:25 AM

reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

wow fantastic amount of research sayonarajupiter
excellent posts i wish i could give you more than 1 star and flag

Thanks for your support geobro. If you have any questions or different angles feel welcome to post them.

I am about to put some stuff together some material that will introduce Elvis into the conspiracy. It has to do with the movie "Patton" starring George C. Scott. One of Elvis's other favorite movies was "Dr. Strangelove" that is also starring George C. Scott.

Another connection is Elvis's obsession with renting out an entire theater for him & his entourage to having private screenings of movies, like "Patton", an activity that he isn't so well known for.

There is some video evidence of Elvis flying on Hughes Airwest jets in 1973, from Fresno, California. And during this early 1970's era Elvis is known to be consistently using the theme from 2001:A Space Odyssey as the introduction to his live shows, in perfect instance, The Aloha Satellite Special, recorded in January 1973.

Aloha from Hawaii is a music concert that was headlined by Elvis Presley, and was broadcast live via satellite on January 14, 1973. The concert took place at the Honolulu International Center (HIC) in Honolulu (now known as the Neal S. Blaisdell Center) and aired in over 40 countries across Asia and Europe (who received the telecast the next day, also in primetime). Despite the satellite innovation, the United States did not air the concert until April 4, 1973 (the concert took place the same day as Super Bowl VII). Viewing figures have been estimated at over 1 billion viewers world wide, although it has been debated whether these figures are accurate. The show was the most expensive entertainment special at the time, costing $2.5 million. source Wiki

One more thing, Nixon and Elvis almost shared the same birthday. Elvis Aaron Presley[a] (January 8, 1935 – August 16, 1977) and Nixon was born on the 9th of January, 1913.

There is of course the historic hand shake meeting when Elvis met U.S. President Richard Nixon in the White House Oval Office, December 21, 1970. Now putting it into perspective is something more difficult!

Imagine, January 1973, Elvis, Aloha satellite TV special, 1 billion people, the theme from 2001 Also Sprach Zarathustra, the last and final Apollo mission was completed in December 1972 at the same time Nixon began Operation Linebacker II which was to carpet bomb North Viet nam while there was a severe loss of American life and aircraft in those missions... at the end of 1972 Richard Nixon was screwing around watching movies.
The Hanging Tree 12/17 WH
Charade 12/20 KB
The Inn of the Sixth Happiness 12/21 KB
The Lady Eve 12/22 KB
Butterfield 8 12/24 KB
The Big Clock 12/28 CD
The General Died at Dawn 12/29 CD

posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 09:09 PM
Hey Pinke if you are out there... are these album cover's any good?

posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 10:49 PM
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

you've mentioned the projects briefly about USSR/USA using rockets on the moon to listen to the 'ringing' .. but you've haven't focused on that a lot .. I'd personally like to read what you have to say about that and how much research you've done thus far if any.

MOST excellent thread !!! It better get a least 3 ATS awards just for the research alone!!
I bookmarked the Timeline thread..

posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 09:53 PM
reply to post by Komodo

Your remarks are good encouragement, Komodo, and thank you for reading.

[Part Two - focus on connections]
Nobody really understands the moon. Just ask a lunar scientist. They don't know jack about it. They don't know how it got there. They don't know why it rings like a bell when struck by a fragments of NASA space junk. And they have had 40+ years to drill down into it and find out what's inside the Moon but they haven't done it. Is that why NASA inevitably crashes so many probes on the moon.. to hear it ring?

There are two articles I'd like to mention. This analysis By Ted Twietmeyer

Also, NASA uses the phrase on the official website Moonquakes 03.15.06

Between 1969 and 1972, Apollo astronauts placed seismometers at their landing sites around the moon. The Apollo 12, 14, 15, and 16 instruments faithfully radioed data back to Earth until they were switched off in 1977.

Clive R. Neal, associate professor of civil engineering and geological sciences at the University of Notre Dame after he and a team of 15 other planetary scientists reexamined Apollo data from the 1970s. Furthermore, shallow moonquakes lasted a remarkably long time. Once they got going, all continued more than 10 minutes. "The moon was ringing like a bell," Neal says.

I have a hard time believing that the seismometers were really switched off in 1977.
And it's difficult to believe that NASA lost track of two ascent modules, Apollo 11 Eagle and Apollo 16 Orion.
The modules just disappeared. If they had crashed onto the lunar surface while the seismometers were working there could be the possibility of actually finding those missing modules! But NASA can not do that. It's impossible they say. Actually, they haven't even tried.

In my view, modern day NASA must deal with the unfortunate legacy of Nixon's Apollo while keeping up the appearance that they can do anything in space that they want to. Orbit the sun for years? done. Run robots on mars for 10 years? done it. Count 10,000 near earth objects? Easy.

Can we get a convincing image of any Apollo landing site 40-odd years later? Ummm, not quite.

That's why I have Charles Bolden in my signature. He said : \"Were gonna turn science fiction into science fact.\" - Charles Bolden NASA Administrator.

Houston, We've Got A Pixel.

When I said

they have had 40+ years to drill down into it

I am inferring that Howard Hughes Tool Co. could have made drill-bits that could drill deep into the lunar surface and supply scientists with massive amounts of data. Hughes Aircraft was building Surveyor probes that could precisely soft land on the lunar surface. The Surveyor probes could easily be equipped with drill rigs.

I don't doubt that HH thought of that idea. I don't doubt that Howard Hughes could send a space probe to the lunar surface with a drill rig and drill down for miles.

In many ways, HH is reflected as the antagonist in both films "Diamonds Are Forever" and "Moonraker". Sorry I've gone on a tangent. I have been listening to Mae Brussell and she's a classic conspiracy lady from the early '70's with a great mind like a steel trap. She goes on tangents and it just never ending tangents....

But how does this all fit in? I let the readers decide. Here is what I think.

Those seismometers were not switched off, they were switched/redirected to another facility. Why? Because HH was sending a Surveyor probe to the Moon with a massive drilling rig. When the drilling rig started drilling it would show up on the seismometers. Therefore, they pretended to switch off the Apollo seismometers.

Was that a good tangent Komodo?
The Nixon's Apollo narrative is, I believe, a serious challenge to the official NASA/Apollo narratives. If you would like something more specific just ask again more specifically.

I am working on something at the moment that has to do with the "007" movies "Diamonds Are Forever" and "Moonraker". So far I have been looking at source material. I love tracking down source materials!

I made several break throughs in this theory by going out to real used bookstores, off the beaten track, it adds alot of fun to the work that still has to be done. This theory is open to any challenges or questions. Be my quest!

posted on Sep, 23 2013 @ 10:02 PM

Nixon's Apollo

This is the Butterfield 8 idea and I finally made a graphic for it. This log of Nixon's Diary for December 24th, 1972, is pretty self-explanatory. The view that I am working towards is that Nixon & Hughes communicated, using satellite phone technology, untraceable. They used these devices to communicate at crucial intervals during the Apollo program and beyond. As seen here in the illustration Nixon's screening of Butterfield 8, the Howard Hughes call and Apollo missions anniversaries ( Apollo's 8 and 11 ) are all now vividly connected to the date, December 24th, the place, Key Biscayne.

The Hughes myth goes that Howard was "All Shook Up" over the Managua 6.2 earthquake. According to what I know (Barlett & Steele, and others) Hughes next destination was the Inn of the Park in London, UK.

Earlier in the thread I posted a big sized graphic that showed ALL of Nixon's movie screenings for 1972. Hughes arrived in London, UK on December 26th and according to the same Hughes sources say that... he was screening such movies as "The Deserter" the day after X-mas and for New Years Eve 1972 he screened "The Dead Eyes of London".

The connection to "Butterfield 8" didn't seem like much at first until I gathered that Alexander Butterfield, an ex-Army colonel, was a member of Nixon's inner circle during the first term... and the first term of Nixon's presidency holds all the keys to Nixon's Apollo... as far as I am concerned

Butterfield's job was, quoting the wiki,

Among his responsibilities was the setting of Nixon's schedule and the maintenance of his historical records, which included the operations of the secret taping system which Nixon had installed in the White House.

What that means is Alexander Butterfield was yet another of the long list of Nixon secretaries who are each involved in a covert operation, acting on behalf of the President, acting as his illegal eyes and illegal ears, either planning, acting out political intrigues, and then involved in the disclosure (or covering up) of the evidence.

Although Alexander Butterfield was not associated with any wrongdoings in the Watergate scandals nevertheless he was intimately familiar with the Nixon taping systems and the maintenance of Nixon's historical records... which would probably include reviewing the Secret Service Daily diary of the Richard Nixon presidency.

According to mainstream media accounts, Butterfield, during the Watergate investigations, was determined not to bring up the taping system unless he was directly asked about it. But when he was asked directly about "listening systems" he blew the whole taping system into a whole new realm of intrigues.

Chief Minority Counsel, Fred Thompson, notably asked "Mr. Butterfield, are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the president?"

Check out the youtube clip of Butterfield on July 16th, 1973, the anniversary of Apollo 11 lift-off! Butterfield says the listening devices i.e. taping systems were in place at the White House by May of 1970, or later in the summer.

What does "Butterfield 8" represent in the Nixon Apollo narrative? Well, first, take a look at the presentation images and I'll try to explain after the jump!

Alexander P. Butterfield Testifies During the Watergate Hearings

And thumb link

Epilogue: What does "Butterfield 8" represent in the Nixon Apollo narrative?

Elizabeth Taylor won an Oscar for her work in "Butterfield 8". And I think this movie (many of the movies Nixon watched!) might be some sort of hidden communication channel between Nixon and Hughes.

For instance, at one point in the film, Liz Taylor reads a short note from a paramour who suggested the sum of $250 dollars, a deal that most probably had some sort of secret, sexual connotation to it. But Elizabeth Taylor rebels against the suggestion, writing in lipstick on the mirror "No Sale".

posted on Sep, 23 2013 @ 11:07 PM
December 24th, 1972 is only a few days after the final and last Apollo splashdown. (Apollo 17 splashed down in the Pacific Ocean on December 19th, 1972, which was the day after Nixon ordered the $4 billion dollar carpet bombing of North Vietnam, known as Linebacker II.)

I can't think of any particular reason why Richard Nixon would choose to screen, on Christmas Eve, a twelve (12) year old movie starring Elizabeth Taylor who won the award for Best Actress for her role in "Butterfield 8".

Nixon, as president, would have access to any movie he wanted to see. Arguably, if RN decided at 3pm in the afternoon that he was going to screen "Butterfield 8" in 4 hours... there is no doubt... RN had the power to obtain a print of "Butterfield 8" within the 4 hour timeframe.

The question that remains in my mind .... who suggested to RN that "Butterfield 8" be screened on Christmas Eve 1972... when Howard Hughes was on the run... after the earthquake... at the very end of Apollo program??

Take a look at the Daily diary when Nixon and Rebozo were swimming for 2 HOURS??!! They are not swimming. Nobody goes swimming in a pool for exactly two hours. It's just stupid to imagine them cavorting in a pool area when obviously they were operating satellite phone technology and speaking directly to Howard Hughes via the untraceable network created by the CIA front Hughes Tool Co. and all subsidiary entities.

Nixon and Rebozo may have been waiting, at the swimming pool, for Hughes to return the call to them on the satellite phone, provided by Hughes. The message may have been very brief. It may have been simply a reference to a movie, such as "Butterfield 8", and the movie might contain within it the message itself.

In this way, the 500+ movies that Richard Nixon screened when he was president could be a described as a covert method of communication between Howard Hughes & Richard Nixon. With BeBe Rebozo involved so closely with the Hughes organization I can imagine a very good case of building up further links going in this direction.

Nixon and Rebozo might have received word from Hughes to watch "Butterfield 8" because there would be a hidden message in the movie. If the satellite conversation took place while Nixon and Rebozo were at the pool, "swimming" haha, that would give them about 4 hours to secure a print of the film from a nearby library or movie house.

What happens is a telephone call is made. "Get a print of "Butterfield 8" down to Key Biscayne in 4 hours".
Then, 4 hours later, Nixon and Rebozo, are screening it at Key Biscayne residence.
edit on 9/23/2013 by SayonaraJupiter because: linebacker II reference

posted on Sep, 23 2013 @ 11:35 PM
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how different life would be in 1972 if the apollo asteroid 1866 sisyphus had hit that evening of august when i was young right after the most violent solar flare ever witnessed at the time .

the record says it grazed the earth at 35km but records lie i saw it pass at 10.000 ft and at 10 km in size she was big and would have done the damage of a lot of nukes if it had hit .

and on earth some men were weaving a tangaled web of deceipt that will one day be unravelled good work sayonarajupiter keep it up

posted on Sep, 23 2013 @ 11:47 PM
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It is comparable in size to the Chicxulub object whose impact may have killed off the dinosaurs.

1866 Sisyphus - that would tie in nicely with the Werner von Braun Asteroids Threat prophecy!
Verrrry interesting!

posted on Sep, 24 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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maybe some bad men are planning to push one in with a ion engine you just never know these days .

yip he earned the name tricky dickie for sure

posted on Sep, 24 2013 @ 09:08 PM

yip he earned the name tricky dickie for sure

Nixon & Hughes are truly misunderstood by history. This is the only thread on the internet which gives them both the credit they deserve.

posted on Sep, 24 2013 @ 10:19 PM
Nixon's Apollo includes the 007 "Moonraker" Howard Hughes moonbase theory. Obviously the gold costumes are a dead giveaway.

posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 02:23 AM
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some excellent stuff that i had forgotten about sayonara i will be looking right into this i had forgotten about the bond movies they seem like a million years ago now .

and the yellow theme from hughes well that is spooky

posted on Sep, 25 2013 @ 11:34 PM

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some excellent stuff that i had forgotten about sayonara i will be looking right into this i had forgotten about the bond movies they seem like a million years ago now .

and the yellow theme from hughes well that is spooky

I would recommend watching a DVD copy of "Moonraker" with the Roger Moore commentary track.. he mentions "Cubby" Broccoli many, many times,

Albert Romolo Broccoli, CBE (Hon) (April 5, 1909 – June 27, 1996), nicknamed "Cubby", was an American film producer who made more than 40 motion pictures throughout his career. Most of the films were made in the United Kingdom and they were often filmed at Pinewood Studios.

posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 08:31 PM
A keen observer will notice the product placements in 1979's "Moonraker". Marlboro cigarettes in a desk drawer, a British Airways boarding pass and a billboard sign along the road... Christian Dior perfume... any 7-up soda signs... Seiko digital watches... a Carl-son personal speed boat for quick getaways in the Amazonian rain forest... where Drax Enterprise Corporation launches 6 space shuttles "...on a pre-arranged flight program."

By the time the plot of the movie takes us into space the only "product" placements left are for NASA space shuttles and the US Marine space soldiers equipped with laser weapons.

However, this placement of the Apollo Airways airplane (see image below) is a different kind of product placement. And the release date timing for "Moonraker" reminds how close (in time, 1979) this spy thriller movie was to the original Apollo moon missions.

The first real operational NASA space shuttle flight (STS-1, Columbia) would not take place for almost another 21 months, Columbia's first orbital flight was on April 12, 1981.

posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 11:07 PM
If you can imagine that Howard Hughes & Richard Nixon had a secret plan to launch Elvis Presley into space to do the first live TV concert from the surface of the moon! Well... here's another album cover for Nixon's Apollo.

posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 11:50 PM
Great thread, I find it very interesting. The real problems I see with the moon is the way the shadows in pictures don't match the sun's orientation or the shadows in the visor of an astronaut getting their pic taken. Shadows don't lie when there is 1 light source.

posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 01:27 PM

UnifiedSerenity the shadows in pictures don't match

Apollo era images are always tricky to deal with. Firstly, CIA and NPIC employees were always involved with every Apollo film negative. Secondly, for about 30 years, the public were shown, over and over, the same 40-50 Apollo images, repeatedly... on every possible TV show... in every magazine... Finally, after 40+ years of Apollo images, NASA has decided to remove the cross-hairs from Apollo images. For more information on this final point, See my thread from October 2012 titled NASA is removing the reseau marks from Apollo images ...

Elvis Presley sings "It's Over".

For the purpose of the Nixon's Apollo theory, the Apollo still and moving picture catalogues were produced on Earth using real footage and films that were obtained from un-manned Surveyor landers which were built by Howard Hughes. Films and lunar regolith samples were returned from the lunar surface and collected by Apollo astronauts during retrieval missions. (retrieval missions coincided with the official launch and landing dates.)

One must realize that Howard Hughes was a master film maker by 1930. His legendary status as a film maker is confirmed by "Hell's Angels" which, by coincidence?, Stanley Kubrick listed that film as among his top 10.

When the Surveyor program was winding down in 1966 Howard Hughes made his famous move to Las Vegas and during the next 5-6 years he supervised the production of the Apollo films. For each Apollo mission, the moon landing films & photos were already "in the can" before the mission launched.

This allowed each Apollo mission to be scripted down to every detail. This allowed for the Apollo 13 "Marooned" mission to take place according to the screen writers, to add life & death drama to the space saga.

Working together, during Nixon's first term as president, Hughes and Nixon were able to distract America from the murders of 1968, from the bloody war in South East Asia, from the huge anti-war protests, from the inflationary economy, from Woodstock and Charles Manson, so Apollo eventually became "the good thing we did" and they told us it was "For All Mankind".

However, now NASA has put the Keep Out Zones on the moon, (See my thread on Keep Out Zones here MOON: First Keep Out Zones now National Parks for Apollo Sites?

So it turns out that Apollo was for the benefit of Nixon & Hughes, not "For All Mankind" as we are perpetually brainwashed to believe. This theory works on the presumption that NASA still has something to hide on the Moon. Hollywood, Hughes, Nixon, NASA... all wrapped up into 6 moon landings that occured during Nixon's first term.

posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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Here is one I found and look at the shadows in the visor vs what is behind the man:

I look forward to more information on this. I have read the comments in the past that try to prove this is not an issue, but as a skilled photographer, I know how shadows work with lighting, and this doesn't match up. Now, did they do studio shots and still go? Maybe, but I find a lot of the info very sketchy about this mission, and it was a psy-op imho.

There is no way that tin can went to the moon.

posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 03:49 PM
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I love it when people do their homework!! You did just that and then some....Great job putting this together and your replies letting people know why you are saying what you are!!

Excellent job from start through now!! Applause will be requested for this!!

posted on Oct, 1 2013 @ 12:32 AM

UnifiedSerenityI have read the comments in the past that try to prove this is not an issue, but as a skilled photographer, I know how shadows work with lighting, and this doesn't match up. Now, did they do studio shots and still go?

Unified, you are dealing with a specific Apollo image, it's always best to know exactly where you got that image from.

This is basically a "hard rule" in any Apollo debate thread, if you have a question (or set of questions) about any specific Apollo image (or set of images) then you must do the research and provide us with the actual NASA catalogue number(s) for that image(s). And a link to the image would be very nice!

If the image in question is not served from a .gov server then I will automatically pass the buck!
and I'll let someone else comment on it.

The short answer to your question

Now, did they do studio shots and still go?
I believe they did studio shots, in the stills and the films.

I do not know the exact techniques of how they created the stills and films (because I am no expert in photographic development processes). However, we do know that Richard Underwood was the "first" person to see every Apollo image.

According to Farouk El-Baz in his NASA oral history, the man who examined these Apollo images "first" was formerly CIA. His name is Richard Underwood and he is dead now.

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