Boston is a Farce to Take your Rights Away

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Obfuscation, but nice try.

So following the Constitution means = We cannot apprehend criminals anymore?
Since when?

Get real, we have been catching criminals for centuries without requiring to shred the Constitution.

I apologize if you explained this previously, but what constitutional provision was violated today?

Originally posted by Rob7774
reply to post by iwontrun

 

One guy out of two who has killed and injured many using violence far outside of the scope of normal crime. This pair have brought true Islamic terror to non actors. If your right to wander about has been impeded for a day or black clad men have frightened your neighbours then please explain how you would better deal.

You don't know anything about crime in America than.

This nation has a history of violence that is horrific. Including cartel/mafia, serial murderers, cannibals etc.

Was Jeffrey Dahmer using violence outside the normal scope? YES, beyond anything these terrorists kids did combined. Eating humans is extremely heinous and barbaric and sadistic.

And what cities were required for a shut down?

I have said about 25 times in this thread already, the way to "better deal" is called FOLLOW THE LAW.
Do not break any Constitutional prohibitions!
When the Govt breaks the law just to enforce the law? There is no law left because it's all broken now.

Originally posted by Danbones

they added black powder to the gun bill on wed. the senator who sponsored the bill says because of the Boston Bombing

You mean the bill that was completely defeated in the Senate?

Originally posted by buckrogerstime

Originally posted by Danbones

they added black powder to the gun bill on wed. the senator who sponsored the bill says because of the Boston Bombing

You mean the bill that was completely defeated in the Senate?

dunno defeated maybe have to check
but they added it as predicted

www.dailypaul.com...

defeated maybe (not arguing here) it will be back...it always comes back ask Bidan

I can't understand how the lady in the red shirt went from no blood on her head in these photos (while appearing to make hand signals?),





to this photo taken on a stretcher, with blood all over her head.and literaly everywhere on the ground around them. Wouldnt the blood have on her and the ground already?



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Originally posted by buckrogerstime

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Obfuscation, but nice try.

So following the Constitution means = We cannot apprehend criminals anymore?
Since when?

Get real, we have been catching criminals for centuries without requiring to shred the Constitution.

I apologize if you explained this previously, but what constitutional provision was violated today?

I apologize but you need to read the Constitution for once.
It is hard to read it though when you are so busy attacking it on the Internet all day but what the hell, I will educate you.

1st Amendment: Right to assembly (including walking around in open public lands) : Infringed

4th Amendment : Right against unreasonable search and siezures

5th Amendment : SUSPECT (ALLEGED) had his life taken away without due process of law.

6th Amendment : Trial by Jury - Cant happen when the cops kill you

9th Amendment : "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." - They have been clearly denying and disparaging rights not mentioned.

10th Amendment : Delegation of Powers - The US Govt breaks this one all the time and usurps powers they are forbidden to have.

And in FDR's famous " Four Freedoms goal, the "Freedom from Fear" is listed as # 4, and extremely important. This was infringed big time.

Originally posted by Danbones

dunno defeated maybe have to check
but they added it as predicted

www.dailypaul.com...

Just so I'm clear, you think Congress is going to ban gun powder despite the fact that they couldn't even pass a bill about background checks on firearms?

Originally posted by buckrogerstime

Originally posted by Danbones

dunno defeated maybe have to check
but they added it as predicted

www.dailypaul.com...

Just so I'm clear, you think Congress is going to ban gun powder despite the fact that they couldn't even pass a bill about background checks on firearms?

That would be just speculation.

But I do know a fact, this government has broken many laws today, and I called them on it.

Originally posted by buckrogerstime

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by Mykah

 

You're absolutely correct and on the right track.
This picture you linked to:
www.kaotic.com...
His leg looks like a turkey drum stick. There's no torn flesh. No blood. How does the skin mold like that to the bone?
It's definitely fake.
If I didn't link to the photo properly, I'm speaking about the second photo in your post on page 16.

Yes! From my job, I have a lot of experience with people's legs being blown off. Can't believe the lamestream media wants us to empathize with that terrible actor who is probably in his wheelchair on some yacht right now. Definitely revoking my prayers for him from last week. What a jerk.

No arterial spurt? Should be way more blood, he should be covered in it. They really blew it.

Quote:
"If you loose both your legs from explosive trauma half your blood is gone in one minute via the femoral arteries, youre dead after two. Bleeding out is worse with blunt force trauma (like shrapnel) because flesh is torn rather than cut, exposing more arterial and vascular tissue. The human body holds 5 to 6 LITERS of blood. If that really happened you would see blood EVERYWHERE, the guy would be drenched in it. You would also see what's called arterial spurtting from the injury. Most likely he would vomit after turning ghost white from shock, then turning delirious or passing out. As for the "tourniquet"...

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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by DarknStormy
Seen the guys you were speaking about and they don't look like your run of the mill police officers to me. Those same guys in the camo also had the Red Cross on their backs also.. Maybe they are Police/Army/Humanitarian workers. who knows but I can see exactly what your pointing out

Seig Heil fellow Nazi citizen from other Nazi province somewhere else.

Thank you for having simple eyes and common sense to see what we have become.

Lebewohl

And yet your avatar involves a war ship !!!!!

reply to post by skorpius


You are incorrect.
Commencing Five and
one half years ago the
American public has
been purchasing 1.5
billion rounds of ammunition
per month.

That does not include
the firearms purchased
and the first time firearm
purchasers.

You might not join the fray,
but he will not be alone.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

I apologize but you need to read the Constitution for once.
It is hard to read it though when you are so busy attacking it on the Internet all day but what the hell, I will educate you.

1st Amendment: Right to assembly (including walking around in open public lands) : Infringed

4th Amendment : Right against unreasonable search and siezures

5th Amendment : SUSPECT (ALLEGED) had his life taken away without due process of law.

6th Amendment : Trial by Jury - Cant happen when the cops kill you

9th Amendment : "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." - They have been clearly denying and disparaging rights not mentioned.

10th Amendment : Delegation of Powers - The US Govt breaks this one all the time and usurps powers they are forbidden to have.

And in FDR's famous " Four Freedoms goal, the "Freedom from Fear" is listed as # 4, and extremely important. This was infringed big time.

OK, just a few questions:
1) Do you think people should have the right to peaceably assemble in active crime scenes? Do you think people should have the right to enter dangerous construction areas at all times? If we know there is a 100% chance of obtaining good evidence needed to capture a mass serial killer at the intersection of Houston and Broadway, should we continue to let people enter that intersection for a few hours even if it would interfere significantly with stopping a mass serial killer?

2) What unreasonable searches and seizures occurred today?

3) Do you think people pointing a gun to your head and threatening to shoot you are entitled to formal process in a court of law (with a jury trial) before you can respond to them?

4) Do you think the people of Boston would be "free from fear" in knowing that terrorists could commit acts of physical aggression against them without any consequences?

Originally posted by buckrogerstime

Originally posted by muzzleflash

That's nuts because our policy was not to negotiate with terrorists.
Let's make a deal with the terrorist??
(This is so criminal by it's very nature it is utterly deplorable).

When people say "we don't negotiate with terrorists," they mean we don't compromise or barter with them. They don't mean we shoot them dead when they pose no immediate lethal threat. Far from being criminal, shooting him would have been a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment (as well as pretty ineffective in getting information about the bombings).

Absolutely correct 100%.

Violation of the 5th Amendment has been going overboard lately.
Heck violation of everything sacred.

reply to post by muzzleflash


No.

In communism there are no corporations. The workers would own the means of production. The state owns nothing. Real communism is anarchism. Anarchism is a left wing ideology.

Fascism is nothing but state capitalism.

Just because the Dems are on the left or the Repubs are on the right it doesn't matter

Nope. They are both right wing. They are both a capitalist party. Please tell me where democrats ever called for the workers to own the means of production? They don't and never will because that would destroy TPTB. If you get rid of the capitalist owner the individual would actually have control over their own life.

I'm not going to go back and forth. It is clear that you have never read any communist or socialist literature. You don't understand what it even is. You read some propaganda off a right wing website and are parroting it. I understand where you are coming from as I used to do the same as a teenager. Then I actually educated myself and stopped reading biased articles. Read the literature itself, not propaganda.

Originally posted by buckrogerstime

OK, just a few questions:
1) Do you think people should have the right to peaceably assemble in active crime scenes? Do you think people should have the right to enter dangerous construction areas at all times? If we know there is a 100% chance of obtaining good evidence needed to capture a mass serial killer at the intersection of Houston and Broadway, should we continue to let people enter that intersection for a few hours even if it would interfere significantly with stopping a mass serial killer?

2) What unreasonable searches and seizures occurred today?

3) Do you think people pointing a gun to your head and threatening to shoot you are entitled to formal process in a court of law (with a jury trial) before you can respond to them?

4) Do you think the people of Boston would be "free from fear" in knowing that terrorists could commit acts of physical aggression against them without any consequences?

edit on 19-4-2013 by buckrogerstime because: (no reason given)

So you don't deny my post? You instead respond with crafted deceptions and misdirection?

1) How is an entire city an active crime scene when a human being takes up no more than a square foot or so?
And if you were stopping everyone at the intersection, don't you think that will tip off the suspect at a distance and he will see he needs to change directions?
What cars were registered to the terrorists?

2) Door to door searches throughout a whole city, is a serious violation.
Even if the MSM propaganda convinced people to open their doors willingly, the fact they used manipulation and lies to control the minds of innocent ignorant peoples is a criminal act and extremely heinous in nature.
Stockholm Syndrome?

Military style police crackdowns are also strictly prohibited and a serious violation.

3) What kind of question is this?
I never said self defense was wrong or prohibited.
It is promoted and cherished.
After disarming the thug swiftly, only then can a court case ensue whereby I facilitate his arrival in prison.

4) Bostonians and everyone everywhere worldwide should be VERY FEARFUL now that 1 person can bring their entire city to a halt with a very low grade weapon.

Originally posted by WaterBottle


In communism there are no corporations. The workers would own the means of production. The state owns nothing. Real communism is anarchism.

Real democracy is anarchism too, but that's beside the point.

What does the word "Corporation" actually mean? There are many meanings and various ways it can be applied in language. The manner I used it in can be construed to mean simply "organization of employees", including the self-employed who were employees of themselves.

But when you say Communism, you are speaking of a utopia that never existed.
When we talk about the USSR, we can talk about totalitarianism, slavery, mass murder, etc.

this whole thing reads like the capture of Guy Montag in Fahrenheit 451

Originally posted by kmartyr
this whole thing reads like the capture of Guy Montag in Fahrenheit 451

That's a great book, I highly suggest everyone get a copy and read it multiple times!
I learned a lot as a kid reading literature of this nature.