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Shooting at MIT (And continued events in Boston 18-19 April)

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posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by DirtyD

Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by DirtyD
An entire city willfully submitted to martial law for nearly twenty-four hours in response to one nineteen year old terrorist on the run.


Don't let the fact that what occurred was not close to Martial Law get in the way of anything. I like how the FF crowd keeps pointing to the fact that the poor suspect was only 19 because you know a 19 year old is not capable of anything horrible or violent.


I'm not in the FF crowd, letting it all unfold first. I was just pointing out the fact that one fugitive terrorist caused a major city to willfully submit to martial law for nearly 24 hours. Now imagine if this had been a more serious threat. Just shows how easily we succumb.


Again I will point out that Martial Law did not take place...The residents were asked to Shelter In Place.

"martial law n. a system of complete control by a country's military over all activities, including civilian, in a theoretical or actual war zone, or during a period of emergency caused by a disaster such as an earthquake or flood, with the military commander having dictatorial powers. In the United States martial law must be ordered by the President as commander-in-chief and must be limited to the duration of the warfare or emergency. It cannot result in a long-term denial of constitutional rights, such as habeas corpus, the right to a trial, and to free press. "




posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by guidetube
if you were trying to create a NWO this is good way to do it, hook many on the action, show they are dangerous and capable, drop hints of nukes, imagine someone getting lose with them. i doubt he was set up and giving money but it could of been subtly coerced, it was only time before someone did something like this. i doubt i belive that someone orchestrated that but people are aligning themselves

more freedoms being clamped down and protected lol


Toooo likely true.

I don't know about not set-up or coerced. Might not have needed much coercion.

BTW, the black color is near impossible to read. I always have to select your whole post--a real time delay and bother. Many won't bother and will scroll on by. Many would do well to read your posts but won't because of the color being so hard to read.
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edit on 19/4/2013 by BO XIAN because: tags


SMR

posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by thatniqqa

Originally posted by SMR
You guys are feeding a troll.
Stop feeding and he will leave along with his offensive username.


A troll? sir im not trying to be offensive. Im just pointing out inconsistencies. Name calling is futile because I could easily say the same about you but that would be first grade bicker.

Your name is offensive. You know that. Trolling.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:02 PM
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Very glad this appears to be over. I can only sincerely hope that some of the police scanner reports of additional potential suspects were products of fog of war, hyper vigilance, and an abundance of caution.

Peace.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by thatniqqa

Originally posted by Daughter2

Originally posted by N3v3rmor3
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They are remarkably clean for people who are assisting someone with bodily injuries like that... and i did notice that there isnt a long trail of blood like there should be. I must say they did a good job on the prosthetic skin which does look believable... but until I saw DNA results showing it was human flesh and was his I do not believe it myself.


I noticed he is lying very still - the body isn't twisting at all.

Not only do the workers not have blood on them - he doesn't seem to have too much blood either. It didn't even soak through to his shirt to his skin.

Why take a picture? How many pictures like this are released right away?

Why aren't they cutting his cloths off - it's a standard procedure for any trauma patient - plus they would want to check for weapons too.
edit on April 19th 2013 by Daughter2 because: (no reason given)




And what about the frantic guy with the ripped pants. Look like flinstones pants but skin isnt damaged and hes running 100 mph. Did he set off some theater smoke for dress up time with the crisis actors??? Hey you guys are the ones that made Box Office as it is. Enjoy the movie , free of cost provided by the govt. USA is the masters of cinema and media since Disney. We have 3D 60 inches, what u think the govt capable of? They can wake up and report wtf they want and every stupid family eating toast and cereal will naturally respond and act on it. Then ignore the many inconsistencies. If there are more than 3 loose ends , its way too many. Im starting to think the ones opposing this are either thick skulled or really govt people lol


yeah it is just not fitting together for me but you have to understand that most people wont understand until the rest of the pieces fall together. I watch too many horror/action movies and i watch for certain inconsistencies like this to assist me when im doing one of my hobbies, which happens to be makeup application/zombie makeup. The tiny details make all of the difference. We have been taught to believe the TV... and for a lot of people it has worked throwing those common sense indicators right out the window.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Darth_Prime

Originally posted by ManiShuck


We have him heading towards the second site with the backpack. We have him at the site where we can see the backpack on the ground. We have him leaving the site without the backpack.

I think it's safe to assume it was him. And we have a civilian who saw suspect #1 put the first bomb down.


what if someone else said they saw someone else put a backpack down who do you believe?

i understand the 'What If' arguments can go on forever, i'm just asking what do you consider 'Truth'

i can't believe someone at a place where known drills for bombings are held, where warnings about drills are being said over the speakers, and a man walks up to you and lays a backpack at your feet, and you don't do anything for 2 minutes?

he also said he looked into his eyes and the suspect was wearing glasses, unless he took them off just to look into his eyes,

you assume they are guilty because you want to assume they are guilty, it's hard for people to believe 'America' can behave like other countries, where the American government has no problems killing innocent people for their personal reasons, 'America' is above other countries, yet one of the biggest terror countries existing now


Do we have someone else seen putting the bomb down? No, we don't.

I assume they are guilty because everything I've seen and heard leads to them being guilty. Eyewitness reports and pictures.

This isn't about what I think of America, so stop acting like you know how everyone thinks. You don't.
edit on 19-4-2013 by ManiShuck because: Had 'stop stop' instead of 'so stop'.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by DirtyD

Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by DirtyD
An entire city willfully submitted to martial law for nearly twenty-four hours in response to one nineteen year old terrorist on the run.


Don't let the fact that what occurred was not close to Martial Law get in the way of anything. I like how the FF crowd keeps pointing to the fact that the poor suspect was only 19 because you know a 19 year old is not capable of anything horrible or violent.


I'm not in the FF crowd, letting it all unfold first. I was just pointing out the fact that one fugitive terrorist caused a major city to willfully submit to martial law for nearly 24 hours. Now imagine if this had been a more serious threat. Just shows how easily we succumb.


Again I will point out that Martial Law did not take place...The residents were asked to Shelter In Place.

"martial law n. a system of complete control by a country's military over all activities, including civilian, in a theoretical or actual war zone, or during a period of emergency caused by a disaster such as an earthquake or flood, with the military commander having dictatorial powers. In the United States martial law must be ordered by the President as commander-in-chief and must be limited to the duration of the warfare or emergency. It cannot result in a long-term denial of constitutional rights, such as habeas corpus, the right to a trial, and to free press. "



I dont think he said it was full blown martial law. Hes saying maybe it was a experiment. A beta test so to speak. They sure did cut all communication at the marathon too. There shouldnt be all these questions to be asked and inferences to be made if this is supposed to be clean. Even a little mess is suspect.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:06 PM
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they didnt cut the communications, the cell towers were overloaded



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by DirtyD

Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by DirtyD
An entire city willfully submitted to martial law for nearly twenty-four hours in response to one nineteen year old terrorist on the run.


Don't let the fact that what occurred was not close to Martial Law get in the way of anything. I like how the FF crowd keeps pointing to the fact that the poor suspect was only 19 because you know a 19 year old is not capable of anything horrible or violent.


I'm not in the FF crowd, letting it all unfold first. I was just pointing out the fact that one fugitive terrorist caused a major city to willfully submit to martial law for nearly 24 hours. Now imagine if this had been a more serious threat. Just shows how easily we succumb.


Again I will point out that Martial Law did not take place...The residents were asked to Shelter In Place.

"martial law n. a system of complete control by a country's military over all activities, including civilian, in a theoretical or actual war zone, or during a period of emergency caused by a disaster such as an earthquake or flood, with the military commander having dictatorial powers. In the United States martial law must be ordered by the President as commander-in-chief and must be limited to the duration of the warfare or emergency. It cannot result in a long-term denial of constitutional rights, such as habeas corpus, the right to a trial, and to free press. "


Stay indoors, complete shut down of mass transit, police going door to door. On CNN it was reported that in Watertown police would knock first, if there was no answer they would use a bullhorn, and if there was still no they would enter, no warrant required.

Then you have images like this.

And while you are correct, no martial law was declared, this comes frighteningly close. All it takes is to instill a little fear in the public, and they will do exactly as they are told. This shows how easily martial law could be implemented, and how willingly the people would accept it.

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posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:09 PM
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All caught up in reading and keeping up maybe? Heh



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by thatniqqa
I dont think he said it was full blown martial law. Hes saying maybe it was a experiment. A beta test so to speak. They sure did cut all communication at the marathon too. There shouldnt be all these questions to be asked and inferences to be made if this is supposed to be clean. Even a little mess is suspect.


A request to Shelter In Place is not a full or partial implementation of Martial Law.

If I was in charge of a fluid situation where bombs had been detonated you can bet one of the first things I would do is suspend all cell communication until a better understanding the threat assessment was avail.

Additionally traditional phone service be it cell or TDM does not have unlimited bandwidth. When the Earthquake hit the East Coast a few years ago, that capacity threshold was surpassed and service was down. It's not an uncommon scenario.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by ManiShuck

Originally posted by Darth_Prime

Originally posted by ManiShuck


We have him heading towards the second site with the backpack. We have him at the site where we can see the backpack on the ground. We have him leaving the site without the backpack.

I think it's safe to assume it was him. And we have a civilian who saw suspect #1 put the first bomb down.


what if someone else said they saw someone else put a backpack down who do you believe?

i understand the 'What If' arguments can go on forever, i'm just asking what do you consider 'Truth'

i can't believe someone at a place where known drills for bombings are held, where warnings about drills are being said over the speakers, and a man walks up to you and lays a backpack at your feet, and you don't do anything for 2 minutes?

he also said he looked into his eyes and the suspect was wearing glasses, unless he took them off just to look into his eyes,

you assume they are guilty because you want to assume they are guilty, it's hard for people to believe 'America' can behave like other countries, where the American government has no problems killing innocent people for their personal reasons, 'America' is above other countries, yet one of the biggest terror countries existing now


Do we have someone else seen putting the bomb down? No, we don't.

I assume they are guilty because everything I've seen and heard leads to them being guilty. Eyewitness reports and pictures.

This isn't about what I think of America, so stop acting like you know how everyone thinks. You don't.
edit on 19-4-2013 by ManiShuck because: Had 'stop stop' instead of 'so stop'.


Have we seen the alleged suspects putting down the "Bomb"?



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Dyzan
reply to post by thatniqqa
 

they didnt cut the communications, the cell towers were overloaded


good point . yea i guess they demanded them off for the bomb then



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:18 PM
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"At some point, the FBI, not the hospital, will be updating his (the suspect's) condition." - from CNN

Hmm, is this standard procedure? Maybe someone knows if there is a precedent for the FBI stepping in for medical information. Seems a little fishy, but I'm not very knowledgeable so I won't jump to any conclusions.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Darth_Prime

Originally posted by ManiShuck

Originally posted by Darth_Prime

Originally posted by ManiShuck


We have him heading towards the second site with the backpack. We have him at the site where we can see the backpack on the ground. We have him leaving the site without the backpack.

I think it's safe to assume it was him. And we have a civilian who saw suspect #1 put the first bomb down.


what if someone else said they saw someone else put a backpack down who do you believe?

i understand the 'What If' arguments can go on forever, i'm just asking what do you consider 'Truth'

i can't believe someone at a place where known drills for bombings are held, where warnings about drills are being said over the speakers, and a man walks up to you and lays a backpack at your feet, and you don't do anything for 2 minutes?

he also said he looked into his eyes and the suspect was wearing glasses, unless he took them off just to look into his eyes,

you assume they are guilty because you want to assume they are guilty, it's hard for people to believe 'America' can behave like other countries, where the American government has no problems killing innocent people for their personal reasons, 'America' is above other countries, yet one of the biggest terror countries existing now


Do we have someone else seen putting the bomb down? No, we don't.

I assume they are guilty because everything I've seen and heard leads to them being guilty. Eyewitness reports and pictures.

This isn't about what I think of America, so stop acting like you know how everyone thinks. You don't.
edit on 19-4-2013 by ManiShuck because: Had 'stop stop' instead of 'so stop'.


Have we seen the alleged suspects putting down the "Bomb"?



Are you too lazy to re-read the first quoted post?

Come on. Like Seth Meyers said... "Has it reached the point where Americans only think someone was born here if they saw it? I know I was born here, and I know my younger brother was born here, but when it comes to my older brother, I can only take him at his word."

I'm done in this thread. We have too many false flaggers trying to create a conspiracy and other users with racist usernames. This was a good thread while it lasted.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by ManiShuck

Originally posted by JakSparrow
Am I incorrect in stating the fact that the FBI still has refused to release any video of Jahar putting the backpack down?

If this got released can anyone post it? Otherwise, we're simply taking the FBI's word on it. Just like we took their word that they had no involvement of the WTC 1993 attacks.



We have him heading towards the second site with the backpack. We have him at the site where we can see the backpack on the ground. We have him leaving the site without the backpack.

I think it's safe to assume it was him. And we have a civilian who saw suspect #1 put the first bomb down.

I want to bring this up again though, as there's talk of these guys not being alone.


FBI agents interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 at the request of foreign government, an FBI official said Friday. The other government - who the official would not name - suspected that Tsarnaev may have ties to extremist groups. The FBI investigated, including interviewing Tsarnaev, but the matter was closed after no derogatory information was found, according to the official.

news.blogs.cnn.com...


Where are these clear photos of him at the site with the backpack on the ground. ?? And the FBI quote is again from the mother... but where is the image of the son standing next to the backpack on the ground. As well who is the civilian who saw this??



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:23 PM
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1. I think it depends at what levels of 'government' one is talking about.

2. I think it depends on when in the long script by the NWO PTB one is talking about.

3. I think it depends on the particular operation in process and at what point in what location one is talking about.

4. Yeah, there are a lot of still patriotic local law enforcement. They are increasingly being controlled and coerced into a National gestapo. Some are valiantly resisting.

5. Like the sheriff's. Praise God for the patriotic Sheriffs. May God protect and guide them.

6. The folks in Boston did manage at some cost, probably, at this stage . . .to make certain that they appeared to be earnestly going to great lengths to protect the civilian populace. There will come a day when that will change wholesale. The plans and script are in place. We aren't quite there yet.
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posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by tropic

Originally posted by Doodle19815
Could someone point me to the footage of them setting the backpack down and walking off. They just spoke of it on the news and I was unaware of them actually having footage of them during the "drop off".


Appears theres no footage of Tsarnaev placing anything anywhere, whether ground, garbage, etc

Navy seals had backpacks in case he failed to perform. There are photos of that.


Awesome..I didn't know you were an active Operator for any branch of the military.
Please give me the names and teams of the SEALs that were on site.


Please show me images that these two brothers dropped off two backpacks ..



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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Are you too lazy to re-read the first quoted post?

Come on. Like Seth Meyers said... "Has it reached the point where Americans only think someone was born here if they saw it? I know I was born here, and I know my younger brother was born here, but when it comes to my older brother, I can only take him at his word."

I'm done in this thread. We have too many false flaggers trying to create a conspiracy and other users with racist usernames. This was a good thread while it lasted.


Actually Im black and I say that word. Matter of fact everybody says that word in So Cal. Hey Im 19 bro u might find me offensive because i have tattoos and listen to rap.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 11:27 PM
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I just wanted to share a link to a news article that ATS member adjensen posted.

Muslim Leader Tells worshippers to expect questions from public

It touches upon the backlash this incident is going to cause in form of intolerance and hate between different belief sets in American society.

I think another ATS poster - dontreally has some really interesting things to say about the topic that is a MUST READ.

Blessings,
Cirque
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