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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Help me understand.
I remember sitting and watching the election returns last time around, in 2000, with a sinking feeling in my stomach. This time around, the feeling was more overpowering..
Originally posted by Bout Time
1) Religion - Multi part
War of Religionsit's been posed as a Crusade, our actions globally. It came down, in some of their eyes, being a referendum on Jehovah vs Allah
Gay Marriage was forced to be a distraction first, then a hot topic. Just the meat they hungered for: every election, since the Dixiecrats became Republicans, has needed some moral strawman to hang it's hat on.
The Rapture point is speaking to the John Ashkroft faction.
2) Fear - name a terror alert that has lead to anything except crowd control & distraction from some other screw up? It's the "security Mom" demographic this year, remember?
3) Dogged stubborness - regardless of the administration officials who had a reason wake up call, Republicans refused to admit they were wrong.
Which laws are being violated? And what's wrong with the morality of tolerance and non-interference in others? I would think that the ultimate molarity is a show of compansion and respect for anyone, no matter who they are.
Originally posted by dbrandtMorally we CANNOT keep going down the road we are on, God will not allow a nation to continue that blatantly violates the His laws, especially one that claims to be christian.
Originally posted by Justmytype
What the hell does this have to do with what skeptic has asked of us????
I see no reason or sense of your post in this thread...
And what's wrong with the morality of tolerance and non-interference in others? I would think that the ultimate molarity is a show of compansion and respect for anyone, no matter who they are.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Which laws are being violated?
And what's wrong with the morality of tolerance and non-interference in others?
My impression of the main difference between Republicans and Democrats when I hear them speak personally on the issues is their personal vision of the world.
Republicans are mainly concerned with issues affecting them personally and close to home (tax cuts, personal religious stances, feeling of personal security etc.) whereas Democrats seem mainly concerned about issues affecting the greater good like social questions, rule of law (rights) and multilateralism. Not that both donít care for the other, itís just a matter of degree.
You don't know my core values. Most christians have been taught to assume atheists have no morality. Why must everyone have things your way (as the Bush-voting extreme theists want)? How will living my life my way in private effect your moral code? Why is forcing your view of morality on me, moral?
Originally posted by Machine That means that everything I think about and believe in is going to be radically different from what your core values are. We are two different people. I want things my way and you want them your way. Itís really that simple.
Sure we do. But the Bush-voting extreme theist appears to be inventing new rights and wrongs to divide this country and win the election. For example, my parents live in Florida and have come to believe that if Kerry were elected, gays will begin marrying immediately and the Bible will soon see distribution restrictions. Why? Because an RNC Bible-Thumper visited their church five times in the past year discussing the evil of Kerry. This RNC-sponsored lying campaign is immoral. How can you support the morality of deceiving people through their faith?
Originally posted by dbrandt To the second question first. Because what don't know all the differences between right and wrong.
Wonderful. What about that first question... which of "God's laws" do you believe were broken that inspired your support for Bush? (I'm beginning to get a clear picture here.)
If I plant a carrot seed in my garden, I'm not going to get corn,