Parallel universe and heaven?

Isn't heaven a parallel universe? I somehow find there to be a conspiracy, again, that makes us search in the wrong places for things. The parallel universe they are been searching for, is heaven. And you know when you do find that. They always distract focus, making us attach to material things in order for us to lose our focus on the real deal. And who is they? Who cares, just don't get deceived. Do some even know they are deceived? Some just don't know, really, having no clue. Reach them the clue.

There's always a second issue that can distract us from the real deal. Aliens distract us from demons, even when aliens do exist. Go on on your quest to inner knowing, to the kingdom of God. Your reward will be great.

reply to post by Angle


Heaven is not a parallel universe in the sense that the word "parallel" is sometimes used by advocates of the Everett-Wheeler interpretation of quantum theory. There are seven planes of consciousness, each divided into seven levels, of which physical consciousness is restricted to the lowest three of the lowest plane. The post-mortem state (not heaven) is the next higher plane of consciousness. "Heaven" is a vague term, but it can be identified with the third plane, as well as with higher planes of consciousness. In all there are 91 levels of consciousness. They are mapped in the sacred geometries of various religions, e.g., in the Tree of Life of Jewish Kabbalah and in the Sri Yantra of Hindu Tantra, as well as in the dodecahedronand the disdyakis triacontahedron. All possible states of consciousness must be differentiated from parallel worlds predicted by a particular version of quantum mechanics. The latter (assuming they really exist) are purely physical (although not detectable) because they represent different bifurcations of the quantum states of particles when observed.
There is a "parallel" universe predicted by E8xE8 heterotic superstring theory. It is invisible, its matter not emitting or absorbing light, and is confined to a space-time sheet that is parallel to that occupied by ordinary matter, being separated by a narrow segment or gap along the 11th dimension of space-time predicted by supergravity theories and M-theory bit otherwise occupying the same space. It corresponds to the four higher levels within the physical plane, so it has nothing to do with what is normally understood by the term "Heaven."

reply to post by Angle

And who is they? Who cares, just don't get deceived.

They are those who apply fictions to gaps in their knowledge.

The historical view of heaven shows that it has nothing to do with alternate universes. It is a place where people hope to receive award in death for acts committed in life.

We should stop deceiving people further with its use, for it implies much unverifiable, unobservable and undemonstrative fantasy and merely serves to satiate desires and fears rather than seek honest explanation.

the happy hunting ground
you die here you go there
you die there you come here

Heaven is right here right now.

No need for all that other stuff.

reply to post by micpsi


Perfectly well educated response. Well said

reply to post by TheSubversiveOne


What if you replace 'heaven' with 'Kingdom of God'.

reply to post by Angle

What if you replace 'heaven' with 'Kingdom of God'.

And then replace 'Kingdom of God' with 'the universe' and you will have arrived full circle.

Originally posted by micpsi
reply to post by Angle

 

Heaven is not a parallel universe in the sense that the word "parallel" is sometimes used by advocates of the Everett-Wheeler interpretation of quantum theory. There are seven planes of consciousness, each divided into seven levels, of which physical consciousness is restricted to the lowest three of the lowest plane. The post-mortem state (not heaven) is the next higher plane of consciousness. "Heaven" is a vague term, but it can be identified with the third plane, as well as with higher planes of consciousness. In all there are 91 levels of consciousness. They are mapped in the sacred geometries of various religions, e.g., in the Tree of Life of Jewish Kabbalah and in the Sri Yantra of Hindu Tantra, as well as in the dodecahedronand the disdyakis triacontahedron. All possible states of consciousness must be differentiated from parallel worlds predicted by a particular version of quantum mechanics. The latter (assuming they really exist) are purely physical (although not detectable) because they represent different bifurcations of the quantum states of particles when observed.
There is a "parallel" universe predicted by E8xE8 heterotic superstring theory. It is invisible, its matter not emitting or absorbing light, and is confined to a space-time sheet that is parallel to that occupied by ordinary matter, being separated by a narrow segment or gap along the 11th dimension of space-time predicted by supergravity theories and M-theory bit otherwise occupying the same space. It corresponds to the four higher levels within the physical plane, so it has nothing to do with what is normally understood by the term "Heaven."

Better pack some sandwichs then. Looks like a long trip.


Sorry naughty.

I need to read that again, and grow up.

reply to post by Angle


Heaven is higher Dimensions of less density (energy).

Hell is lower dimensions of more density (energy).


Ghosts and such beings that can be seen in our physical world are of a lower nature OR they could be lowering their energy to such an extent so that they can be seen....

There are higher dimensions where it is less physical , more energetic and the beings know that they are all connected with more intimacy , love , and appreciation...

and then there are lower dimensions where it is more physical where beings cannot actually "see" that they are connected (like humans or lowly spirits)...

Parallel universes are possibilities of what COULD be happening in this present moment...


Here is one interesting thing to think of...

THE PAST is a POSSIBILITY OF NOW...

In a parallel universe, it could be that it is EXACTLY the same as ours but it evolved slower and there are still dinosaurs, jumping from our universe to THAT parallel universe would be what we call to be "Time Travel"...

Originally posted by Angle
Isn't heaven a parallel universe?

Yeah, I often think it could indeed fit the definition. One of my christian friend actually strongly agree with me on that.

reply to post by Angle


The Biblical scriptures seem to support, with their language, that Heaven is superlunary, IE: beyond the moon. Which, when you consider the mythologies which the Biblical accounts are based on, and which they plagiarize from, all of those cultures believed the Earth was a flat disc, enclosed by a mountain range, surrounded by an endless abyss, and governed, from above, by powers and forces beyond humanity. Heaven was truly just "up above" the Earth, where God/the gods lived. It is not a parallel dimension. Although the same concept of Heaven may exist in a parallel dimension.

~ Wandering Scribe

reply to post by TheSubversiveOne


But we have acces to the kingdom of God within. Is it then a parallel universe we are linked to?

Then can the same be said for hell?

reply to post by steph the conspirator


I think so. I like the spiritual twist to parallel universes.

I think the true definition of a realised heaven would be more than just a parallel universe construct. For one, to me at least, heaven wouldn't be limited to the laws of physics. Physics is awesome and ugly, concurrently.

Originally posted by Angle
Isn't heaven a parallel universe? I somehow find there to be a conspiracy, again, that makes us search in the wrong places for things. The parallel universe they are been searching for, is heaven. And you know when you do find that. They always distract focus, making us attach to material things in order for us to lose our focus on the real deal. And who is they? Who cares, just don't get deceived. Do some even know they are deceived? Some just don't know, really, having no clue. Reach them the clue.

There's always a second issue that can distract us from the real deal. Aliens distract us from demons, even when aliens do exist. Go on on your quest to inner knowing, to the kingdom of God. Your reward will be great.

The only distraction is the belief in words - the distraction is 'abstraction'.

The speaking serpent will deceive you into believing in many things.

reply to post by ProjectUltra2013


Physics is incomplete yet, yes it is. It hasn't had the opportunity yet to investigate everything. The physics of the world of imagination. Since we discuss these things here, our world of imagination isn't bound to "illusions/rules/laws". It's a free world where everything is possible. There's a filter between our imagination and the physical world. This might be a good topic to discuss. This part of us does not fit the physical world. Physics is what differs between these world. There there are no rules, no boundaries.


It could be all I said isn't true. I'll make a new topic out of it. thx for discussing people.

Actually, it is possible. While string theory and parallel universes are still fairly early theories, the successful teleportation of the single atom brings us closer to the truth. Since regeneration of many atoms would take too long it will be a while before humans teleport.

reply to post by ProjectUltra2013


Earth itself is supposed to be a copy of Heaven, although an imperfect one. If you believe in Heaven it would be like earth, but with no sin. And no sin = no pain and no death. So if it is a planet it could very well be a parallel universe. If you want to believe, believe.