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Originally posted by Nightaudit
reply to post by adjensen
1: Well the answer is obvious. You wouldn´t be one. Just look at the world and understand it. If you were born in a jewish family, you probably would grow up jewish. If you were born in a muslim family... and so on.
And if you regard these MAJOR logical problems as "shallow", well, sorry but then you didn´t really understand them.
1: If you were born in a non christian
country with a different main religion,
would you still somehow end up a
christian?
2: How do you cope with the
obviously wrong and horrible laws
and statements in the bible? (How to
treat your slaves and that it´s ok to
beat them, women´s "right´s", that we
have to stone people that wear two different fabrics and all that jazz). In
other words, do you pick the nice
points out of the bible and ignore the
bad ones? Or do you accept
everything in it?
3: I personally would detest the god
who pulled that stunt with Abraham
and Isaac. Or the god who completely
wipes out whole ecosystems including
innocent animals, just because he
doesn´t like the ways of men. I wouldn´t WANT that to be true.
Originally posted by Nightaudit
reply to post by adjensen
I kind of get the feeling that you do not want to get this.
Let me ask you a question then. Do you believe that your faith is absolutely independent of the circumstances you were brought up in?
How can these 3 simple question I asked, without any hostility I might add, be nonsensical?
I mean really honestly now. Who in their right mind would argue against the fact that your cultural and social upbringing has an influence on the faith you "chose"?
1: Well the answer is obvious. You wouldn´t be one. Just look at the world and understand it. If you were born in a jewish family, you probably would grow up jewish. If you were born in a muslim family... and so on.
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Nightaudit
You are saying that, in a hypothetical situation, where the only things that are known is that one person is in a largely Christian culture and the other person is in a largely Islamic culture, you know for a fact that the person in the Islamic culture would not be a Christian.
Like it or not, that is irrational.
Originally posted by Nightaudit
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Nightaudit
You are saying that, in a hypothetical situation, where the only things that are known is that one person is in a largely Christian culture and the other person is in a largely Islamic culture, you know for a fact that the person in the Islamic culture would not be a Christian.
Like it or not, that is irrational.
Do you even fully understand what you just wrote? I mean honestly now?
1: If you were born in a non christian country with a different main religion, would you still somehow end up a christian?
1: Well the answer is obvious. You wouldn´t be one. Just look at the world and understand it. If you were born in a jewish family, you probably would grow up jewish. If you were born in a muslim family... and so on.
I have never in this thread so far tied anything to individual beliefs. I was trying to point out to you that there is no real reason for an individual to choose their religion, because they were practically born with it.
You know that most kids are baptized at a very young age, right? I do not think that you could dispute that.
Now, how many of those 2 year olds, made a conscious decision to believe in christianity?
Did the resurrection really happen? Was an individual named Jesus really raised from the dead over two thousand years ago? Theologians and atheists both agree that the validity of Christianity rests on this one point alone. Many atheists argue that if Christ wasn’t raised from the dead then there’s no need for Christianity or God because it’s all myth. On the other hand, since Christians believe that Christ was raised from the dead, we too can have eternal life if we believe in him. Both of these arguments are ridiculously short-sighted and they completely divert attention away from the reality and purpose of existence.
Originally posted by Nightaudit
reply to post by micmerci
Hmm. So what if you heard of jesus, but you choose to stay a buddhist for your own reasons?
Hell?