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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 03:42 PM
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Even if it is it doesn’t mean anything, lots of those guys are ex-military and it was patriots day.

You would probably find there were members from other PMCs there that day.




posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
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Even if it is it doesn’t mean anything, lots of those guys are ex-military and it was patriots day.

You would probably find there were members from other PMCs there that day.


Depends what you mean by 'mean anything'. The space in the market that Craft International occupies is interesting alone, same as Blackwater. That fact that DHS are employing these types for civilian work is interesting.

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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 07:26 PM
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Firstly you seem confused as to the role of the CST teams. How did these deployed CST units fail to protect the event? Their role is in the aftermath of a CBRNE incident.

Nothing to do with prior intelligence. The teams are established and will cover as routine such major events.

As already referenced in my previous post.


At any large event it is routine to have National Guard CST members --each state has at least one CST-- on site to provide specialized assistance if required. Eric Durr New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs


I refer you back to the link.


As to why one of them were seen wearing Craft apparel, Craft International provides training programs to police and military, and it is likely that the whole team received training from Craft and received the apparel from them, or maybe just the individual did, or maybe it's even simpler than that, perhaps the man wearing the hat simply likes the hat and purchased it from Craft.


Perfectly reasonable reasons why one of the CST members was wearing the Craft apparel. Why do you assume that they were trained in 'combat tactics' on a possible Craft course? Craft offers a wide range of courses that includes medical response. Even civilians can attend craft courses. Maybe his full time job is a Craft instructor and he serves part-time in one of the CST National Guard teams?

www.thecraft.com...

Info in addition to my previous post.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Image showing CST vests being worn at the Boston Marathon.



Guardian Newspaper Boston Marathon images

CST ADVON vehicle seen at Boston Marathon.



ADVON vehicle at Boston Marathon



rdl.train.army.mil...

'Weapons of Mass Destruction - Civil Support Team Operations'

armypubs.army.mil...


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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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It turned out to be true, the second supposed suspect was indeed a Young late teen in his 20s although still 19. That message on 4chan is proving to be a fact.



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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How ironic to find some national guards to be right there at the scene at the same of the blast no?



posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Danbones

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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Who would it take to not be "patsies"??


actual guilt


So you have weighed up all the evidence and acted as jury all ready??

So you have weighed up all the evidence and determined I have determined he is not guilty
show me where i have determined that specifically...please



like the kind the bipartisan independant war crimes review just realesead with thier determination that the last three presidents are guilty of war crimes on a magnitude equal to the worst of the Japanese during world war two
www.nytimes.com...
funny, guess the news got lost in th e diversionary false flag



It was not a "War crimes review" - it was an investigation - and the only authority able to determine actual guilt of such are international courts. This report would be excellent evidence for such a trial.

"war crimes review "is in the off site quote


The report makes no mention of Japan.

the report specifically said Japan..please see quoted post


And since it made the NYT it seems it did not actually get lost in anything at all.


Perhaps you should chill out a bit!


obviously you don't read the NYpost


Originally posted by Danbones

THE SPECIFIC INDICTMENT of Bush Jr/Obama/CIA/US Military “Torture of 9/11 Prisoners” at GITMO—FINALLY CONFIRMED as a “WAR CRIME”-- Equivalent to Prosecuted Nazi War Crimes and the Torture/ Internship Of Japanese Americans During WWII.
Nothing beats a sensational front page news story like a Boston Marathon Massacre! Most readers would miss the incidental but far more serious implication for the moral compass of America than the NY Times story by Scott Shane, entitled, “U.S. Practiced Torture After 9/11, Non Partisan Review Concludes”. (posted earlier)
In this article, both Asa Hutchinson [Republican/Bush Jr Administration] and James R. Jones [Democrat, Congress] indict the interrogation and tortures committed by Presidents Clinton [Rendition], Bush Jr [full menu of tortures], Obama [Bush Jr in Black face.


pieczenik.blogspot.ca...

if this is true
then according to Dr Pieczenic, 30 year intel expert and co author of many Jack Ryan novels, all these presidents should be executed or given life imprisonment the same as the germans and japanese who commited the same types of crimes in WWII

well ats what do you think?
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www.abovetopsecret.com...
you may want to look up the definition of quote



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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by tommyjo
reply to post by yampa
 


Firstly you seem confused as to the role of the CST teams. How did these deployed CST units fail to protect the event? Their role is in the aftermath of a CBRNE incident.

Nothing to do with prior intelligence. The teams are established and will cover as routine such major events.

As already referenced in my previous post.


At any large event it is routine to have National Guard CST members --each state has at least one CST-- on site to provide specialized assistance if required. Eric Durr New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs


I refer you back to the link.


As to why one of them were seen wearing Craft apparel, Craft International provides training programs to police and military, and it is likely that the whole team received training from Craft and received the apparel from them, or maybe just the individual did, or maybe it's even simpler than that, perhaps the man wearing the hat simply likes the hat and purchased it from Craft.


Perfectly reasonable reasons why one of the CST members was wearing the Craft apparel. Why do you assume that they were trained in 'combat tactics' on a possible Craft course? Craft offers a wide range of courses that includes medical response. Even civilians can attend craft courses. Maybe his full time job is a Craft instructor and he serves part-time in one of the CST National Guard teams?

www.thecraft.com...

Info in addition to my previous post.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Image showing CST vests being worn at the Boston Marathon.



Guardian Newspaper Boston Marathon images

CST ADVON vehicle seen at Boston Marathon.



ADVON vehicle at Boston Marathon



rdl.train.army.mil...

'Weapons of Mass Destruction - Civil Support Team Operations'

armypubs.army.mil...


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Craft offers a wide range of courses that includes medical response.

well if there were actors imitating injured here as some may think, that certainly explains what they would be doing there....also if this was drill and peole got blown up like 77London, well....
Lucy. you got some splainin' to do
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posted on Apr, 21 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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Sorry again but can anyone explain this to me?

Does our Mainstream News Outlets think we our that stupid, take a look at this picture and no its an fake nor Photoshopped.
Might be a bit graphic for some


A dismembered person with only seconds to live without immediate tourniquet applications from medical professionals.

To make matters more worse the guy in the welled chair there is no blood coming out. How do you explain that?



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:15 AM
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wow

I can't explain that.
i can't explain the blood
I can't explain the facial expression
I can't explain the knee jerk response of guilty hang the two muslim extrmist jihadis
I can't explain the M-A-R-T-I-A-L L-A-W
I just can't



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 12:41 AM
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In a war zone an dismembered person has a few seconds, minutes to live without any professional medical assistance to stop the mass bleeding from either arm or leg. If there is no professional medical assistance near by he or she will die.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by tommyjo
Firstly you seem confused as to the role of the CST teams. How did these deployed CST units fail to protect the event? Their role is in the aftermath of a CBRNE incident.

Nothing to do with prior intelligence. The teams are established and will cover as routine such major events.

As already referenced in my previous post.


At any large event it is routine to have National Guard CST members --each state has at least one CST-- on site to provide specialized assistance if required. Eric Durr New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs



Perfectly reasonable reasons why one of the CST members was wearing the Craft apparel. Why do you assume that they were trained in 'combat tactics' on a possible Craft course? Craft offers a wide range of courses that includes medical response. Even civilians can attend craft courses. Maybe his full time job is a Craft instructor and he serves part-time in one of the CST National Guard teams?

www.thecraft.com...


I haven't confused anything. I read what a CST does, same as you. They failed to detect a threat, same as the stewards failed and the regular cops failed. Rather silly to say 'counter-terrorism is not their job' if a dozen guys are being deployed pre-emptively and charged with standing in the crowd watching people.

If you think it's perfectly reasonable for a member of a disaster response squad to be wearing non-standard clothing with the slogan 'violence does solve problems' on duty then perhaps you should consider your own biases? Doing something like that at a public event is either stupid or suspicious - it's plain begging for conspiracy people to talk about you.

Lets look at the Craft 'medic' course:


The tactical application of combat medicine offered by Craft International raises the medical capability of non-medic assaulters and law enforcement officers. This added capability will provide life saving skills when time is of the essence and in non-permissive situations. This course will teach you how and when to respond, and will build the operator’s confidence through repetition. Sometimes the best “medicine” is superior fire power!


If you think bringing home the kind of violent rhetoric seen in Iraq and Afghanistan to be indoctrinated into National Guardsmen whose job is disaster response is normal - then, again - think about your own biases.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Sorry again but can anyone explain this to me?

Does our Mainstream News Outlets think we our that stupid, take a look at this picture and no its an fake nor Photoshopped.
Might be a bit graphic for some


A dismembered person with only seconds to live without immediate tourniquet applications from medical professionals.

To make matters more worse the guy in the welled chair there is no blood coming out. How do you explain that?


He does have tourniquets on his thighs - quite obviously. I heard that guy in the hat (who is a strict anti-war guy after Iraq killed both his sons) tied off the arteries himself? A lot of people seem to survive landmines and stuff an only lose legs - it can't be all that impossible to survive?



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 04:08 AM
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This whole thing just shows how gullible and willing the American population is and how easy it is to control and manipulate them.
All the media/police had to do was mention the words 'Terror' 'Muslim' & 'Bomb' and that was it, people were happy to sit their houses and not be allowed out.

This was one 19 year old kid, the American population, we're always told, would be able to defeat a tyrannical government becaue the population is armed and primed for battle, yet the government 'Orders' them to stay inside and they just do it?

I think this was a manufactured event, either as in FBI chatted to these guys and 'convinced' them to attack by pretending to be some radical Islamist leader.
The FBI does this all the time and apparently it's not entrapment?
Or they just made up the whole thing and pinned the attack on these two guys.
As soon as the key words 'muslim, terror and bomb' started being repeated over and over you just new something was up.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Sorry again but can anyone explain this to me?

Does our Mainstream News Outlets think we our that stupid, take a look at this picture and no its an fake nor Photoshopped.
Might be a bit graphic for some


A dismembered person with only seconds to live without immediate tourniquet applications from medical professionals.

To make matters more worse the guy in the welled chair there is no blood coming out. How do you explain that?


Have you seen amputations before? Go on your favourite image search engine, and have a look at what you can find.

Please note that the guy wasn't left lying on the ground for long, there was professional medical help available immediately. People in war often survive these kinds of amputations. I don't think there is anything wrong with the photo.



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin
 


How ironic to find some national guards to be right there at the scene at the same of the blast no?


Ironic? How is it ironic? The national guard is always present at large events. It would be strange if they were not present at the 2013 Boston Marathon. If there was no security I would be suspicious, like when the security was told to get off the JFK car... I see no conspiracy here, the security was in full force like they should in this kind of event.

Here is a video of the 2012 Boston Marathon.




posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 05:49 AM
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I know your post was not directed at me, however I would like to point a few things out...
When a traumatic injury occurs, where a limb is lost, the vessels that carry blood contract to stem blood loss..

Secondly, humans have a closed circulatory system...Depending on the injury sustained it is extremely possible for a person to literally be cut in half and still survive.. It just depends on the type / cause of injury and the internal damage results.

If a person is stabbed and the item they were stabbed with remains in its present location, it acts as a "cork". Its one of the main reasons you will see people who are rushed to the Hospital with the item still in place. Removing the item can "uncork", resulting in a more serious condition.

Lastly - The biggest X factor.

The desire / will to live..



posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 08:29 PM
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Seriously? not a good reply diverted at me either. If this your way of defending the picture i have to say its weak try i know what happens in a war zone and here, now i will ask again do you see anywhere where the blood is bleeding? diffidently not on the ground and as such.

I am taking that with as a grain of salt. But i do know when you lose either leg or arm you will have few seconds without proper medical care and in the picture those two driving the supposed victim arent even medical experts.
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posted on Apr, 22 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by salainen

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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How ironic to find some national guards to be right there at the scene at the same of the blast no?


Ironic? How is it ironic? The national guard is always present at large events. It would be strange if they were not present at the 2013 Boston Marathon. If there was no security I would be suspicious, like when the security was told to get off the JFK car... I see no conspiracy here, the security was in full force like they should in this kind of event.

Here is a video of the 2012 Boston Marathon.






c? The national guard is always present at large events. It would be strange if they were not present at the 2013 Boston Marathon. If there was no security I would be suspicious,





I see no conspiracy here, the security was in full force


Of course you dont see an conspiracy in what i had stated but again the video from the 2012 Boston Marathon i will restate what U.S. Army Specialist Charlotte is saying.

The Mass.National Guard provided 460 soldiers and airmen in support of the 116th Boston Marathon. The National Guard provided supplement security. And infrastructure support for the participators and volunteers and more then 2,000 runners.

To debunk my claim you used a single video from the Nations First a video from last year show the Mass.National Guard providing extra security even though that job should have being up to the police. And lets all just ignore this tweet from the Boston global shall we?



Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.

Which it did happen. Read your own post before attacking me again if security was in full force how could they let it happen so easily without warnings?


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posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 01:22 AM
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Problem reaction solution
Never let a good crisis go to waste

At the very least
Even if the controvercy re the injuries and the drill did or didn't exist, and the folks that are questioning it didn't:

They put powder on the gun bill and the rep responsible justified that directly by mentioning the Boston bombing.
What is more goulish them using the incident like that?

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posted on Apr, 23 2013 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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How ironic to find some national guards to be right there at the scene at the same of the blast no?


Nope!

They are usually present at large public gatherings

Also I was responding to this thread on the basis of the OP claiming they were SEALs something that has turned out to be utter crap as you have said they were actually national guard and I don’t really see that as being a particularly big deal.





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