Jesus and the Son of Man

I am just wondering what the believers views are on the two in the last days. I have come to realize that soon one will be taken up into the heavens whole and that will be a sign that Jesus's return is near. as most of you can tell by current events the trying times have begun. Jesus gave himself up for us and he is awaiting his freedom from bondage and when that happens which way will your heart lead you? For there will come one that will do great lying wonders and deceive many but just remember that Jesus will return beside the Son of Man coming from the clouds and he will not be going around healing and pretending. The healing we seek will come after his return and during our rapture. From the garden to the barn his will be done.

I'm not a "believer" any more, but I grew up with these teachings. I have a few questions for you, if you don't mind.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
I am just wondering what the believers views are on the two in the last days. I have come to realize that soon one will be taken up into the heavens whole and that will be a sign that Jesus's return is near. as most of you can tell by current events the trying times have begun.

Just "one" will be taken up, as a sign? or, "one" meaning any individual, will be taken up?

Jesus gave himself up for us and he is awaiting his freedom from bondage and when that happens which way will your heart lead you?

Do you beieve that Jesus is in bondage, or that our bondage has him still bound?

For there will come one that will do great lying wonders and deceive many but just remember that Jesus will return beside the Son of Man....

Who is the "Son of Man"? I thought Jesus referred to himself as the "Son of Man" while he was alive.

.... coming from the clouds and he will not be going around healing and pretending.

Was Jesus just pretending to heal the first time?

The healing we seek will come after his return and during our rapture. From the garden to the barn his will be done.

What is the barn an allegory for? Is the barn a bad place to be?

reply to post by deadeyedick

I am just wondering what the believers views are on the two in the last days.

"Son of Man" seems to be an apocalyptic title that Jesus used to apply to himself as somehow fulfilling the prophecies in Daniel and the Abomination of desolation.
Those "Last Days" was a spiritual "arrival" of the Son of Man into his power, the Parusia.
That was fulfilled along with the Abomination of Desolation, which was the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD. That was the "end of time" for the old era, and the ushering in of the new era, or Age, the one we live in now.
The Last, Last Day, is something else, and is a judgment of individuals when the universe, for whatever reason, comes to an end, and there is no more time and space left. That is more a hypothetical thing but something to keep in the back of your mind when you think about maybe doing something wicked (to not do because at that time you will meet God).

I have come to realize that soon one will be taken up into the heavens whole and that will be a sign that Jesus's return is near.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

as most of you can tell by current events the trying times have begun.

Seems like more of the same to me, and, no, I don't think things are indicating the universe is going to end. The other thing, the coming of the Son of Man, that already happened, as I explained above.

Jesus gave himself up for us and he is awaiting his freedom from bondage and when that happens which way will your heart lead you?

Jesus is not in bondage. You may think that because of cult teachings, but that is just the devil talking. Jesus is at the right hand of power.

For there will come one that will do great lying wonders and deceive many but just remember that Jesus will return beside the Son of Man coming from the clouds and he will not be going around healing and pretending. The healing we seek will come after his return and during our rapture. From the garden to the barn his will be done.

The lying "wonders" to me is all the lies being told about the modern, so-called Israel, as some sort of miracle, when it is nothing of the kind, and everything about it can be accounted for by human effort.

Every single generations since the death of Jesus have thought they were living in the end times.

I actually find this rather hilarious.

For all you know, humanity has tens of millions of years of existance left before the end times happen.

"But there are bombings and wars and starvation everywhere. Global climate change, asteroids, earthquakes...surely these are the end times!"

lol

Originally posted by deadeyedick
I am just wondering what the believers views are on the two in the last days. I have come to realize that soon one will be taken up into the heavens whole and that will be a sign that Jesus's return is near. as most of you can tell by current events the trying times have begun. Jesus gave himself up for us and he is awaiting his freedom from bondage and when that happens which way will your heart lead you? For there will come one that will do great lying wonders and deceive many but just remember that Jesus will return beside the Son of Man coming from the clouds and he will not be going around healing and pretending. The healing we seek will come after his return and during our rapture. From the garden to the barn his will be done.

Christ is the Son of Man... that is to say the Christ is the child of the collective unconscious. The perfect human... the perfect initiate... made of the most perfect parts of all of us. Jesus was a man possessed by the child of humanity, and the child wore Jesus like a cloak or a mask. Or a mansion.

Or a blanket.

reply to post by deadeyedick

Jesus called himself "the Son of Man".
So the standard belief is that "You will see the Son of Man" is another way of saying "You will see me".

reply to post by windword


Jesus Christ is the Son of God and called the son of man . Jesus will come back as prescribed in Matthew 24 verse 29 thru 31 . No pretrib Rapture mentioned there in the ( red letter ) words of Jesus . When he comes it will be a surprise to all man kind . The Christians who are looking for the return of Christ will not be caught unaware . In fact the bible further states that Christ will come as the day comes from the East . All shall see him even those that pierce him . The coming like a thief in the night is to say that when he appears it is too late to make commitments to him .
Jesus comes in the clouds to redeem his Elite and the Son of Man in Matthew is clearly Jesus .

There is more to the story. It does not say that he will be coming alone.
Thank you for all the replies i will try to explain my point of view in more detail when time permits.

reply to post by SimonPeter

Jesus comes in the clouds to redeem his Elite and the Son of Man in Matthew is clearly Jesus .

Jesus was to gather his elect.
That was the creation of the new nation,
His kingdom,
The Church.

That happened, coinciding with the demolition of the old state of affairs, when the Romans tore down the Temple in Jerusalem, in 70, AD.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
I am just wondering what the believers views are on the two in the last days. I have come to realize that soon one will be taken up into the heavens whole and that will be a sign that Jesus's return is near. as most of you can tell by current events the trying times have begun. Jesus gave himself up for us and he is awaiting his freedom from bondage and when that happens which way will your heart lead you? For there will come one that will do great lying wonders and deceive many but just remember that Jesus will return beside the Son of Man coming from the clouds and he will not be going around healing and pretending. The healing we seek will come after his return and during our rapture. From the garden to the barn his will be done.

I think that last day will be marked by a Global chastisement. It will be a combination of the three:

1. First one will come in the form of Natural Disasters like Global Warming, food shortage, earthquakes, superstorms....
2. Second one will come in the form of Satanic Ideologies like: Socialism, NWO, Humanism, Atheism, New Age, war against family and natural law....Mostly this will be persecutions against Christians.
3. And the third will be death and destruction by the Globalists.

reply to post by truthius


Everything is happening so fast now it's hard to keep up with how the cards will fall. there are so many possibilities and some are starting to realize we control the outcome.

reply to post by BlueMule

Christ is the Son of Man

Yes Jesus is the son of man and there will be one with him like the son of man.

Originally posted by windword
I'm not a "believer" any more, but I grew up with these teachings. I have a few questions for you, if you don't mind.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
I am just wondering what the believers views are on the two in the last days. I have come to realize that soon one will be taken up into the heavens whole and that will be a sign that Jesus's return is near. as most of you can tell by current events the trying times have begun.

Just "one" will be taken up, as a sign? or, "one" meaning any individual, will be taken up?

Jesus gave himself up for us and he is awaiting his freedom from bondage and when that happens which way will your heart lead you?

Do you beieve that Jesus is in bondage, or that our bondage has him still bound?

For there will come one that will do great lying wonders and deceive many but just remember that Jesus will return beside the Son of Man....

Who is the "Son of Man"? I thought Jesus referred to himself as the "Son of Man" while he was alive.

.... coming from the clouds and he will not be going around healing and pretending.

Was Jesus just pretending to heal the first time?

The healing we seek will come after his return and during our rapture. From the garden to the barn his will be done.

What is the barn an allegory for? Is the barn a bad place to be?

Most people don't see revelations as i do. it is full of possibilities that all lead to the end. The future is controlled but not set in stone so looking into the future will lead to many things that won't come true and many for the better.


From the garden to the barn means from earth to a safe dwelling and learning place where the believers will be safe until the storm is over. Right now satan is desperate for a martyr. It will come thru a state of being like that 2nd bomber was in. If he would have been shot then satan would have come down to heal him.

Jesus wasn't pretending but the martyr will be when he is healed.

The one that wounds the martyr will be taken up if that happens.

Jesus is in bondage and will be free soon.

reply to post by jmdewey60

Seems like more of the same to me

We will just have to see what tomorrow brings.