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Originally posted by charles1952
This thread is really remarkable.
Colbe, working through her feelings of sadness, discouragement, despair, and loss brought about by Boston, posts a message which gives her strength, hope, and confidence. It's a Catholic message, but that's to be expected, colbe's Catholic. With what response?
Some of the most hateful, uninformed, bigotted, vicious comments I've seen in a long time. It's possible that the posters may be entirely different people than their words indicate, but the words are all I can see here.
These words could be heard from gangs. "Stomp him! He's not bleeding enough! He's got the wrong color hat! Make him suffer! Kick him when he's down! It's OK, he's not even a human!"
Ugly words, intolerant words, shameful words, words designed to hurt. No words to teach, learn, heal, or love, but fighting, kicking, slashing, mob words. Red words, blood words, savage words.
Colbe leads us to a small spring of water which has refreshed her and invites us to look, listen, drink in if we like. What's our contribution to this small beautiful spring? Words of pollution, urine, feces, toxic wastes. The cry goes up "Pollute the stream, poison the stream, dam the spring, rage against the spring, deny the spring exists!"
But the hate of the words causes hate's defeat. "Pollute the spring?" You can only say that if there is a spring which colbe is showing us. "Pollute the spring?" That's never said of a spring that is already polluted, only clear springs. Even the hate proves that colbe has shown us to a clear spring.
But some words can't exist in a world with clear springs. So the words escape from speakers to attack and tear down. Words like "hate," "lie," "selfishness," can't exist together with the clear stream. So the words attempt to mock, belittle, destroy. But, somehow, it never completely works. The hate words never quite destroy the spring. There are always a few who find the spring and show it to others. There have been for centuries, and there will be until the final end.
Thanks, colbe.
Yes, she has. So have I. So have uncountable others.
Wait, are you saying you prayed to the catholics blessed mother?
Oh, it gets worse than that, Ibndhr. Apparently you haven't run across Trinitarianism. We've got THREE, count 'em THREE Persons, making up one God. That alone is sufficient to explain the necessity for the Jesuits, somebody has to figure that stuff out.
Theres a god, a jesus and then a blessed mother, wouldnt god want you praying to god? I mean its bad enough most faiths have a secondary god would be the christians secondary god,
I don't know what you mean by a "drop." Catholics can pray directly to God, or to the dead in Heaven, or Mary, or at least some of the Angels. It's our call, depending. You might want to check the Catholic Catechism for detailed explanations.
but now im realizing there is yet another drop in reaching god.
I take it you don't have a religion.
Wow religion is so crazy.
Sorry, we don't worship Mary, or anyone but God. We may revere her, admire her, pray to her, but not worship.
Didnt jesus say do not worship non other then god? You went straight down to mary, your worshipping an "idol"
Why do soldiers salute generals? Why does the American president bow to foreign leaders? Why do gentlemen stand up when a lady enters the room? It's a measure of respect. Sometimes, it's also used as a gesture of submission to authority, like the soldier's salute.
why do your faith kiss a popes ring/hand?
Well, interesting opinion, but I don't see sufficient evidence for that opinion. In the immortal words of Elwood P. Dowd, "What have you got in mind?"
Wake up your caught in a viscous relugous trap
We've got THREE, count 'em THREE Persons, making up one God. That alone is sufficient to explain the necessity for the Jesuits, somebody has to figure that stuff out.
I'll do anything you want to make it up to you.
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit this, but I purposefully created a post like yours intentionally to see how many people would fall for it. They did. Hook, line and sinker on another website. Yes, I was being a troll. . . .
Yes, that was evil of me . . .
How people would kill in the name of their God.
Scary stuff. OP...you are guilty of that. Just as I was.
I'm very glad. I take that to mean you wouldn't level blanket criticisms against religious people.
By no means do I disrespect those that are religious.
Perhaps I spoke too soon.
I learned how unquestionable people are. How easily people would literally drink the kool aid or take a drug to ride a comet. . . . It's sad, because it shows how incredibly people are naive.
Say again? Where does colbe say she's special but no one else is?
Stop trying to be special. We all are. Not just you.
We are all human and we are all special in our own unique way. The OP, you, everyone else and me.
I noticed the all caps post (at least in the message, the rest was proper), but I also noticed that the text she was quoting was all caps. She cut and pasted it as it was. I didn't expect her to go through and uncapitalize (Is that a word?) the whole message.
Did you notice the all caps post? It's a cry for attention. Any mental health professional could rat this one out.
Originally posted by Viking9019
reply to post by colbe
A god that loves human and animal sacrafices cannot be ''all good''.
I understand they'll be opening missions in Detroit, Chicago, NY, DC, and LA any month now.
or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining............"
Originally posted by lbndhr
wouldnt god want you praying to god?
Didnt jesus say do not worship non other then god? You went straight down to mary, your worshipping an "idol"
why do your faith kiss a popes ring/hand?
Wake up your caught in a viscous relugous trap
Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by colbe
Where was your god when the bombs went off? Where was your god when those people got killed or seriously injured? Where was your god when the planes hit the WTC, or when those gunmen unloaded on those children in Newtown? Where was your god when the Clumbine students were mown down? Where was your god when the metro in London was blown to pieces, and dozens of innocents along with it?
Thanks to the liberals, God is no longer allowed in schools nor most other public places.edit on 4/16/13 by AnonymousCitizen because: grammar
And thank you, colbe, for relaying that message.edit on 4/16/13 by AnonymousCitizen because: thanks
Your petty little issues with the President's policy have no bearing on the fact that people died in Boston for absolutely no reason other than your deity decided his agenda was worth more than their lives. And that's why I don't believe you.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Scripture says we are to pray for each other. It says we are to ask others to pray for us. The 'hail mary' is nothing more than the exact words of scripture being used to ask someone - in this case, the Mother of God - to pray to god for us. Perfectly in line with scripture.
Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
Why ask Mary or any of the Saints to pray for us? Why not just ask God directly for whatever it is we are praying about?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Do you ask others to pray for you? Your friends? your relatives?
Catholics asking Mary or the other saints to pray for them is the same thing.
Catholics go directly to God to ask for what they need.
But they also ask others to pray for them.
The living .. and those who have already gone on to heaven.