reply to post by mirageman
Let’s look at how this fits into Reagan’s life:
Dossier : From Lucy to Gorby
"The Reagan’s were expected at a casual dinner party with friends in Hollywood, California. Except for the Reagan’s, all the guests had arrived.
They showed up a half hour later quite upset. They stated that they had seen a UFO coming down the coast.
Lucille Ball in her book Lucy in the Afternoon also described the event. In her account of the event she stated, "After he was elected president I
kept thinking about that event and wondered if he still would have won if he told everyone that he saw a flying saucer."
The second sighting occurred in 1974 while Reagan was still governor of California. One week after the sighting he related the story to Norman Millar,
then Washington Bureau chief for the Wall Street Journal, later the editor of the Los Angeles Times. Reagan told Millar:
"I was in a plane last week when I looked out the window and saw this white light. It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, `Have
you seen anything like that before?' He was shocked and said, `Nope.' And I said to him: `Let's follow it!' We followed it for several minutes. It
was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When we got
off the plane, I told Nancy all about it.'
The pilot of Governor Reagan plane was Bill Paynter and he backed up the version of the incident with the UFO.
"I was the pilot of the plane when we saw the UFO. Also, on board were Governor Reagan and a couple of his security people. We were flying a Cessna
Citation. It was maybe nine or ten o'clock at night. We were near Bakersfield when Governor Reagan and the others called my attention to a big light
flying a bit behind the plane. It appeared to be several hundred yards away. It was a fairly steady light until it began to accelerate then it
appeared to elongate. The light took off. It went up at a 45-degree angle at a high rate of speed. Everyone on the plane was surprised. Governor
Reagan expressed amazement. I told the others I didn't know what it was. The UFO went from a normal cruise speed to a fantastic speed instantly. If
you give an airplane power it will accelerate but not like a hotrod and that is what this was like. We didn't file a report on the object because for
a long time they considered you a nut if you saw a UFO. Paynter added the UFO incident didn't stop there. He stated that he and Reagan had discussed
their UFO sighting from time to time in the years following the incident."
Following a private White House screening of Spielberg's film "E.T", the President quietly commented to Mr. Spielberg. "You know, there aren't
six people in this room who know just how true that really is." Unfortunately, a press of people coming forward to congratulate him prevented
Spielberg from pursuing the point further. Spielberg reportedly told this to Jamie Shandera shortly after it happened.
Even more interesting in White House records found concerning the Spielberg screening of E.T. were records which showed a strange coincidence
concerning the very next event on the President’s schedule after the movie screening. The showing of E.T. was the last event on June 27th. The very
next event the next morning, June 28th, was a meeting between President Reagan and James A. Baker 111, Chief of Staff; Edwin Meese 111, Counselor; and
Michael K. Deaver, Deputy Chief of Staff; met in the oval office. From there the four men went to the highly secure White House Situation Room where
the President participated in a briefing of the U.S. Space Program. Participants included six members of the National Security Council or National
Security Affairs and no one from NASA. The absence of anyone from NASA for a briefing of the U.S. Space Program is unheard of. The absence of any NASA
people is even more unusual, in light of the fact that a couple days later, President Reagan attended the landing of the U.S. Space Shuttle at Edwards
Air Force Base.
December 4th, 1985:
While addressing a group of high school students in Fallston Maryland..." I couldn't help but say to Gorbachev, just think how easy his task and
mine might be...if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the
little local differences ....between our countries....and find out once and for all that we really are all human."
September 21st, 1987:
Before the United Nations General Assembly: “In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment," said Reagan, "we often forget how much unites all
the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our
differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you," he went on, "is not an alien
threat already among us? What could be more alien to universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?"
May 5th, 1988:
As President Reagan leaves the White House on the way to Chicago. Talking about the importance of frankness; for a desire for peaceful solutions and
wars he goes on to say..."But, I've often wondered what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer--a power from
another planet." Reagan said. "Wouldn't we all of a sudden find that we didn't have any differences between us at all, we were all human beings,
citizens of the world and wouldn't we come together to fight that particular threat?" The president said.
The number of times Reagan brought up the alien threat seemed to mean something more than just a passing thought of the possible existence of
extraterrestrials. Dr. Scott Jones, an aide to Senator Claiborne Pell at the time, and a person who was doing work for the Foreign relations Committee
in the Soviet Union, saw significance in Reagan statements.
Looking carefully at Reagan's assumptions," said Jones, "they tell us much about the man and about possible government policy on the subject. The
most important assumption is that there is a `threat' to the world. Explicitly it is an `alien' threat, from some `other species,' not human. This
was the president of the United States speaking publicly for the record, and the subject was confirmed by another head of state...Because it was
repeated three times over a period of nearly two years, it has the earmarks of an official statement."
Very few papers anywhere covered the strange "alien invasion" exchange between Reagan and Gorbachev. A reason for this was put forward by Dr. Scott
Jones. "The short answer is that the press has effectively been taken out of the loop by the success of a counterintelligence program targeted
against the American public and the press. The government wants no restrictions on how it attempts to handle what we are calling UFO phenomena."
In May 1990, after Reagan had left office, and shortly before the fall of the Soviet Union Gorbachev made a second more direct statement about
UFOs."The phenomenon of UFOs does exist," he stated, "and it must be treated seriously."