BREAKING:Explosion At Boston Marathon

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
reply to post by old_god

 

While I appreciate the 1990s style explanations you provide, few people buy the lie that Jihad is some sort of internal struggle. All one need do is read some military history and Jihad is revealed for what it is.

Jihad is the mechanical process used to spread Islamic culture and Sharia law.

The people at the Boston Marathon were killed by a muslim engaged in violent Jihad in an effort to spread Islamic culture and Sharia law in the way of his warlord prophet, Mohammed, and in celebration of the deity he worships, Allah.

You my friend are why the world is in the state its in...are you a psychic? The mind truly boggles.

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


Pure conjecture, i am afraid.

There are no main suspects at this stage and all avenues are being explored, as is always the case with such incidents.

Muslims are being mentioned because of the FBI warning about possible suspicious activity of a dark skinned male with a foreign accent. The simple fact is that this particular gentleman could be entirely unrelated to this attack. At this stage, we simply do not know either way.

To say, definitively, that it was Muslims that perpetrated this act is not only misguided, it is actually plain wrong at this stage.

Let's try and keep to the facts .

Nobody has claimed responsibility . Nobody has been arrested and charged . Individuals have been questioned and subsequently released .

Anything else is pure fantasy and speculation.

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


You really don't have a clue do you...

It's exactly people like yourself on both "sides" that fuel any kind of issues between races or religions.

Fear breeds ignorance and ignorance feeds fear...

If you wish to start up yet another Muslim hating thread go and try the National Front or some other right wing fundamentalist groups website and spout your hatred elsewhere... This thread is about the bombings and as of yet nothing points to anyone having committed this atrocity and nothing has been released to suggest otherwise.

Specualtion is a dangerous thing.

Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by muse7
Safe to say that this is a case of domestic terrorism

I thought that as well, the conditions are perfect for it these days.

So what happened to all these extreme measures/laws that have been installed since 9/11. The patriot act I and II not enough for you ? What about Homeland security , you know what , lets call in for more privacy decreasing measures since they seem to work so well against "terrorists".

Originally posted by Oransel
I am with Alex Jones here, government wants to blame American Patriots because Obama's people hate us and want to destroy us in true socialist fashion.

Right, because Alex Jones has NEVER been wrong about ANYTHING before, like Bush starting Martial Law to stay in power, like an invasion of a city under the cover of a drill, like the death camps everyone was going to be rounded up and put into, like the train carriages fitted with shackles that actually turned out to be vehicle transporters, like... I could go on.

But as long as people keep tuning in to listen to his rants, buying those books and DVD's, it's all good right?

How about this for a radical scenario... how about there actually might be a radical fringe group of Patriot extremists in the USA? How about the possibility that, just like every other country on Earth, there are a minority or extreme nationalists who are willing to kill and maim people for their political aims?

Oh no, we can't have anyone even SUGGESTING the likelihood that there actually ARE right-wing extremists in your country!

People need to grow up on this issue. There are extremists on all sides, just because you don't like the idea that a person identifying as a "patriotic Republican American" of one ilk or another would be capable of this is no reason to ignore the significance of the location day and timing of it. Everything suggests exactly that to me, and it will to many others too. We would all have to be stupid in the head to ignore that in case we offend anyone.

And tell me, how many threads do you see on here written by people looking for a revolution over gun control, preaching the constitution, the Bible, their rights and liberties? I'm sorry, but you can't seriously see some of the tripe people spout about these things on this very forum AND refuse the possibility that it COULD be a right-wing American.

Originally posted by Jeedawg
How did this happen, I thought bombs were illegal?

I hope everyone makes it out alive, and I can't wait to read some exciting threads on ATS in the coming days.

Now you know how effective "gun control" would be. As in, not.

National Guard are fully deployed in and around Boston (before & after the bombing) but no one seems to care, as if they should be deployed and it is normal.

They (NG) are even on the MBTA trains/buses this morning, riding and searching backpacks/bags. Where is their authority to police civilians without the Governor officially declaring a state of emergency.

Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by DerekJR321
I'm not trying to be crass... but if this did happen near the Newtown people... I can see this being blamed on the "gun nuts" perhaps.

I'm always looking for an angle though.

The mile where these explosions happened was dedicated to the Newtown victims

If it is setup it would make for a more dramatic story/event wouldnt it.

Originally posted by Rocker2013
Where is the evidence that there were 4?!

I do believe I was clear when I said I was advancing a plausible theory…at least I thought so. If those words are too big – I don’t know I am speculating. Crap that’s a big one too, since this is a conspiracy theory cite, I am making an informed guess..

Anyway, here we see as many as five reported…

A first responder source confirms to Fox News that five total explosive devices were found in the Boston area, including the two that exploded. Authorities spent the next several hours sweeping the area for additional devices.

Read more: www.foxnews.com...

If you for some reason don’t live Fox there is the NY Times…

There were conflicting reports about how many devices there were. One law enforcement official said there had been four: the two that exploded at the marathon and two others that were disabled by the police. The official said that the devices appeared to have been made with black powder and ball bearings, but that investigators were unsure how the two that exploded had been set off.

www.nytimes.com...

Or perhaps AP?

An intelligence official working on the scene told the Associated Press that twoadditional explosive devices were found inside garbage cans near the site. Other reports say there were a total of five unexploded devices found following the blasts.

rt.com...

Regarding your physical prowess – I am certain you are quite powerfully built and can do all kinds of things.

Anyway, I am not going to argue further with you I don’t get paid by the word.

Want facts stick with the MSM... they will tell you what to think.

Originally posted by kneverr
Hundreds of National Guard are fully deployed in and around Boston (before & after the bombing) but no one seems to care, as if they should be deployed and it is normal.

They (NG) are even on the MBTA trains/buses this morning, riding and searching backpacks/bags. Where is their authority to police civilians without the Governor officially declaring a state of emergency.

First of all, I believe the NG are regularly at large events like this in the state. I think it has already been established that they attend every year, partly because they can use it for training in crowd control and security, but partly because they have their OWN runners taking part too. The idea that this is the first time the NG have been involved in the marathon seems to be yet another myth to support the idea that things were unusual.

Also, i've seen it said in plenty of other threads before that the NG is not included under Posse Comitatus, because that relates to FEDERAL forces and not state. It is perfectly legal and acceptable to have the NG involved in events and disaster management across the USA.

Originally posted by randyvs


I'm no expert, but the way the explosions happened. one after the other. And with the amount of distance
between the two. Smacks of detonation, but I'm just speculating.

It actually sounds more like a gasline. im not saying it is or isnt but just going by that yeah , gasline fits very well and a lot better then what you suggest. Its your brain steering you into a different direction.

Originally posted by Golf66

Originally posted by Rocker2013
Where is the evidence that there were 4?!

I do believe I was clear when I said I was advancing a plausible theory…at least I thought so. If those words are too big – I don’t know I am speculating.

Precisely.
You are speculating that there were four, but you built aspects of your theory on that suggestion, not on a fact. That makes your entire scenario pointless.

You cannot build a sound conspiracy theory on suggestions and ideas not based in actual reality, if you do you end up with holographic planes and a thousand actors playing roles in a tragedy, you end up claiming that kids who were shot by a maniac were make believe and never existed. You end up looking like a crazy person, and thereby the rest of us too.

What makes it a "plausible theory"? The fact that you said it?
I'll tell you what, I can turn an orange inside out with the power of my mind. It's just a theory though...

As of yesterday evening, reports seemed to range from three (those that went off, including the JFK library) to five (also including the 3 that went off), depending on source (and time of day it seems)....

They searched the Saudi national's place (with his consent), he's here on a student visa. My guess is that he probably is no longer a prime suspect, many international folks were there for the marathon. I still think this has all the earmarks of domestic terrorism, not international. Had this been an Al Queda type attack, C-4 would have been used for more destruction.

How many of you know this: You can create a FB page and if it has 200 likes or less you can change the name and just about anything else. The page that is being referred too was created on Saturday, was changed after the bombs. It has since changed back to a page about horses.

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Apparently it is the apartment of the Saudi individual being questioned at the hospital. Who really just showed up with burns. Likely NOT the guy, IMHO. Boston is full of foreign national students. It's not unusual that he would be down at the race.

reply to post by Rocker2013


Here's a American than can state that it could be domestic. But I would say to the person or persons, who could have done it.

You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose. But you can't wipe your friends on your saddle.

If this was domestic, they just wiped all their possible friends on there saddle by attacking innocent people.

Originally posted by kneverr
National Guard are fully deployed in and around Boston (before & after the bombing) but no one seems to care, as if they should be deployed and it is normal.

They (NG) are even on the MBTA trains/buses this morning, riding and searching backpacks/bags. Where is their authority to police civilians without the Governor officially declaring a state of emergency.

edit on 16-4-2013 by kneverr because: (no reason given)

Other than the fact that the National Guard has been used at this exact marathon along with others like it before. I dont see that as being an issue.

I also could care less if they wanted to search me as I have nothing to hide and I don't view that as my life being horribly traumatized because they want to search me after a terrorist , be it domestic or foreign, attack. I realize that not everyone feels the same I just don't see them being there as something nefarious.

So much speculation on the site and the media, i know it's good to look at all possibilities, but it's never good to quote them as fact.

Everyone seems to be looking for dodgy looking men.....it could have been a woman for all we know.

CX.

now DHS is gunna launch all them vehicles they bought to keep us "safe".People will want that crap partolling the streets..scare evryone into a hole..take their guns. so they HAVE to trust the government to protect them, because theyre defenseless..did anyone notice fema was doin a bomb drill at the same time? I would like to also add, this could be a "look that way, while we do this over here" kind of thing. its a shame innocent people die for the agenda.