Roseanne Barr: “MK ULTRA Mind Control Rules in Hollywood”

Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

You would need to show evidence of a large group of people all acting and speaking the same way on any given topic with no separation at all between their views to even begin to entertain the thought of mass mind-control and that doesn't exist anywhere that I can think of.

If your not going to use it for mass effect than why would you even bother in the first place.

Not to point towards the left side of the room, but............ I am just saying....... you know...... yeah.... the left is kind of cult like in their group think. I mean, the left has always had a certain degree of intellectual discourse. Heck, that is why there is a difference between socialism and communism, because of differences between ideology. In the last few decades though... It just seems weird. From a historical perspective, leftists have mostly been a fairly diverse bunch. Not so anymore. Usually, if you talked to one leftist you might as well talked to them all. Leftists also seem to be the largest group of people that trust the media, albeit leftist MSM outlets(not all leftists mind you).

This is how they run the world and the media stars are right in the midst of the worst of this. I think we all need to pray for them to be FREE, and to break their chains, and envision them leading the way, wayshowers, disclosing and sharing, in large large SAFE numbers.

Originally posted by Unity_99
This is how they run the world and the media stars are right in the midst of the worst of this. I think we all need to pray for them to be FREE, and to break their chains, and envision them leading the way, wayshowers, disclosing and sharing, in large large SAFE numbers.

Personally, I really don't think it is really advanced or intricate, the manipulation technique that is really used. You have to understand that during the height of feudalism(before the black death), the nobility and royalty(rich people of the age) where idolized in the same manner that people idolize celebrities. You have to understand though, the current aristocracy isn't too interested in being idolized as they are interested in being in control. In the past, elected and appointed officials, as well as the Titans of society had to walk a very tight rope. You see, the final nail in the coffin of feudalism is when people began to focus on themselves and others at their level. People who think such a way would be less tolerant of the vices of the well to do.

By causing people to idolize celebrities, they cause people to go into the mentality of a serf, to view the double standards between the aristocracy and the peasants as acceptable.


-forgot to add the last part:

By having people focus on celebrities they keep themselves safe. When we think of the rich or the "Elite", we rarely think of it in terms of individuals who compose it, but rather in terms of an omnipresent blob. Neither here nor there, but yet some how everywhere. That in of itself creates a huge psychological impact and a near perfect shield to enable a majority of the "Elite" to live fairly anonymous lives.

reply to post by korathin


The feudal system was more likely overthrown because the serf class you refer to began to starve, and scrabble for survival while watching the lords of the fiefdom become ever wealthier and strugge less. Meanwhile, the lords of that manor were merely middlemen, between the monarchy and the peasants they lived off of. When the heads of the fiefdom began to come under assault themselves, for more than they had to give or taxed from their population that they ruled over, or lived beyond their own means that they'd taxed from others' labor, because they were then taxed, themselves, by the ruling class above them--this is when and why it broke down. For if the fiefdom was not going to protect the peasantry it lived from and sucked the life out of, then they were not going to be a protective force when the castle of that fiefdom was charged by the current king's army. This is way to complicated for how you couched it here:

You see, the final nail in the coffin of feudalism is when people began to focus on themselves and others at their level.

I am not really sure how that applies here analogously, unless it is thusly: government=monarchy; fiefdom=actors and celebrities, peasant class=the rest of us. If we are to see it in that light, then this thread still applies, in that the celebrities are kind of caught inbetween, though one could make the argument that they knew this when they signed on and someone approached them letting them know what the price for that "success," would be, and it would become much more than their loss of privacy because the public would be allowed access into their lives in an unprecendented manner--the question is, did they understand at that point, that their lives would be used as symbols for what would happen to everyday Joe Schmo in the same circumstances? Because that is what ends up happening to them, and I believe, for the reason I just stated--as a way of letting the public know what the rules are and what happens if you don't follow them. This is how their celebrity status is used against them, and their lives become nothing more or less than a way to show the rest of us without it what will happen if we do A,B & C.....and/or what happens to "important" people, as opposed to what happens to the rest of us....

Many different ways of looking at that, aren't there?

reply to post by korathin


feudalism was also marked by the same kind of disparity, only on a much more tangible level, and the royalty or nobles had to walk that tightrope well or they would face the pitchforks and torches...and they knew as we all do today there were more of us then them...it has always been this way...this is why they had bread and circuses in rome, the mob was easily swayed by propaganda if they were kept poor and fed...this is also why they had feasts in the middle ages, they were kept at starvation level just until the feast and then all of the sudden the nobleman or the king was the best thing ever...because he fed them...

"philanthropists" often operate under these same psychological parameters...

but, i dont think it is healthy to look to others, as in non celebrities, to gauge your status or self worth...that is harmful...if a person realizes that they are worth something, important, then it should not be in comparison to another...it should be based on what they discover for themselves about themselves...what they find out they are capable of, or what kinds of gifts they have...this is what makes a person worth something, and everyone has something special about them...regardless of what the "elite" (that nebulous blob we all refer to) have brainwashed us all to believe...

Some electric shock therapy was done a little differently in canada but not much and someone lost more memory than usual, they lost all their memory. That's the basis of the mk ultra paranoia and people have problems understanding because electro convulsive therapy is not on television much. Some memory loss is normal for electric shock therapy.


Also it seems they did research on drug addiction psychology for mk ultra. I can see how that information could be useful in drug hotspots like afghanistan and columbia. They gave drugs to people and that's somehow unethical yet if I saw a cia booth at the fair asking for drug study volunteers for the drugs they were testing I think we'd see a line a mile long or longer.
Roseanne should take her medication and stop taking herself so seriously.

National anthem at sports games. These people couldn't be less interested in civil service. But the perception is that they love their country. Because of a repetition of music at every game.

Anything repeated enough times will be believable to people as long as its theoretically possible.

To be honest, I'm surprised nothing has "mysteriously" happened to Roseanne for speaking out about this so consistently. I mean don't get me wrong I don't want anything bad to happen to her, it just seems to be the on going pattern of those who speak out.

originally posted by: Optimiztiq
To be honest, I'm surprised nothing has "mysteriously" happened to Roseanne for speaking out about this so consistently. I mean don't get me wrong I don't want anything bad to happen to her, it just seems to be the on going pattern of those who speak out.

Even though Rosanne Barr is in an industry that the media and politicians fawn over, she is pressing the envelope even further this year. CNN hints that she might be snuffed out. (They hope.)

www.cnn.com...