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MSNBC’s Melissa Harris-Perry on Saturday strongly reaffirmed the sentiment behind her recent promotional ad for the network in which she declared that children are part of the collective.
Addressing the outcry on her show Saturday morning, Harris-Perry said it would be “too easy” to simply dismiss that some people are just “haters.”
In the ad, Harris-Perry said that “We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.”
“I can see that some people are ge
Originally posted by Bluesma
This is where it becomes very sticky business, judging the choices of another culture and peoples!
The french culture and values are so different- for them, no, your kids are not just yours. They are the next generation of that society, they are the ones who will be running it one day. How they are raised and formed is important to EVERYONE (in their minds).
So already, a kid is not just taught to obey their parent only. They are not taught to distrust other adults. It is not uncommon to have a stranger correct or reprimand your child in public.
There is strong cultural cohesion, and less focus on individuality- there are values expressed not as "I prefer this over that", but "this is better than that".... as if they are universal truths (and everyone pretty much agrees).
So you have children that are taught to respect and obey their teachers and the adults in charge of caring for them while in their care, and a lot of effort is made to be sure that parents and teachers are on the same page, so the kid has the same rules at home as at school.
In a french home, they do not put ketchup on the table at each meal, so it should not be the same at school.
And though they are given it with fries (frites) and with hamburgers (for it is considered an american sauce, made for american food, the way a curry is considered for use with indian food), it is not served with blanquette de veau .
I am having trouble expressing what I am trying to say, but to put the ketchup out on the table,
is the same thing as telling the kids they should put it on their food,
because the children are obedient and respectful of the adult authorities present.
The attitude is different. Adults are not the "friends" of kids, like in the US. This makes everyone carry a sense of responsibility, whether they have children or not. What you do matters, because our next generaion is watching and following. And it is too confusing for the kids if everyone has a different view!
Hard for me (an american) to describe, because I grew up in such a different way.
Originally posted by FollowTheWhiteRabbit
I completely agree with her. If the community around the child supports and helps in that child's development, we would have far fewer brats and thugs running around with an overblown sense of entitlement and apathy.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by muse7
It takes a parent(s) to raise a child.
It takes a community to make a child lose his or her individuality.
Originally posted by sweetstuff
So what I understand from what chicky is saying is the state has all the rights to our children, not us the parents and families yet we are solely responsible and answerable to child services, schools, government to raise them in the way the borg sees fit?
To those saying she is being misunderstood, I do not agree. It's one thing to say we have to work together as families and communities for the betterment of our children and it's another to strip another layer away of parental authority and familial unity and say you have no say over what happens to your children or how they are raised because they are communal property.
Originally posted by beezzer
I saw her over the weekend on MSNBC and she laughed, she actually laughed at those who were offended by her comments!