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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
You might be right. Thing is, the party elected him fair and square, and everyone had an opportunity to give such things due consideration. Bear in mind...these are folks who bothered to think about it and vote. That's a start. There is no federal election until 2015...he has that time to prove himself. If you still don't like him, you're free to vote for any of the other parties.
Originally posted by Nuke2013
Justin Trudeau is a puppet and nothing more than an empty air head, no experiance, plain and simple ideas with no foundation......Someone in the background will be stearing him all the way to hell.
Denis coderre would of been a way better choice but alas....He was "pushed" aside for this little bobble head.
I disagree. While I will grant you that there is a degree of 'celebrity' involved, there are larger issues in the Liberal party. It doesn't take much to realise that they have been busy stabbing their (our) leaders in the backs for some time now. What did it get them? Third party status, that's what.
Originally posted by Nuke2013
What irks me is the motivation of his nomination. He was put in place because of the name he has, the popularity aspect and the figure head he could be, not the experience and knowledge. The liberals are counting on the kid being able to ride his daddies coat tails.
Originally posted by IronArm
reply to post by ipsedixit
However, at this point, immigration is starting to be a problem. Look at Britain as an example. They are being outweighed by the non-intergrating masses, and loosing the identity of "Englishness"
Are we next?
Originally posted by intrepid
That being said the West never considered the Maritimes in anything anyway.
I don't need to tell you how stoopid that is, right? I guess their brains got overloaded by the word East. But these days they'd just figure you were from 'Da Rock'.
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Originally posted by intrepid
That being said the West never considered the Maritimes in anything anyway.
I'm from NB and everytime I said in Calgary "Yeah, I'm from East coast" they ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS say "Oh where, Ontario?"
I could not star this enough. That was very eloquent and could, perhaps, only be topped by Gilles Vigneault - "Mon Pays, ce n'est pas un pays, c'est l'hiver"
Originally posted by ipsedixit
In the middle of the winter when I am waiting for the cross town bus on Bloor St. on a Sunday morning, so that I can join the other strap hangers because the subway isn't open yet, I look into the faces of my fellow sufferers, from Asia and from the Caribbean, and see the same grim look of endurance that has been shared by Canadians all over the country, for generations.
We have made the country, but the country has also made us, as it will make the newcomers too.
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Originally posted by intrepid
That being said the West never considered the Maritimes in anything anyway.
I'm from NB and everytime I said in Calgary "Yeah, I'm from East coast" they ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS say "Oh where, Ontario?"
Heck, I considered everything east of Pickering to be Greater Newfoundland. I did not know at the time how complimentary a statement that actually was.
Originally posted by intrepid
I lived in BC in the 70's. Everything east of Quebec was considered Newfoundland. Annoying isn't it.
Originally posted by intrepid
I lived in BC in the 70's. Everything east of Quebec was considered Newfoundland. Annoying isn't it.
Yah...kinda hard-pressed to admit it though, weren't they?
Originally posted by ipsedixit
I spent the winter of 70-71 in Vancouver. What a culture shock that was! BC is almost nothing like the ROC. Laid back, relaxed, focused on Hawaii, California, Wreck Bay and doobies. I grew up in New Brunswick. I didn't think these people were even Canadians. But they were.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Yah...kinda hard-pressed to admit it though, weren't they?
If this is is a line of conversation about politics and regional animosity...our American friends must be thinking we're pretty tame, eh? No matter...my Canada includes Florida!
By the time I got there in the mid-seventies, Vancouver was full of Torontonians who bitterly resented being reminded of their 'back east' roots. Most annoying!
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Yah...kinda hard-pressed to admit it though, weren't they?
That was pretty early on when the various segments of the country were only just beginning to become aware that they weren't all exactly alike. I found people in BC, who were absolutely great by the way, just automatically assumed that I was exactly like them. It was amusing. But I was really goggled eyed by BC and found it so relaxing to be there. I just loved it and wanted to go back.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Originally posted by IronArm
reply to post by ipsedixit
However, at this point, immigration is starting to be a problem. Look at Britain as an example. They are being outweighed by the non-intergrating masses, and loosing the identity of "Englishness"
Are we next?
Yes, in a word. Canada, of all countries in the world probably has the least chance of freezing its cultural identity in time. Even the old monolithic cultures of Europe are feeling pressure. Even the most monolithic culture of first rank in the world, Japan, faced with not much more than a football stadium full of "foreigners" in the entire country is alarmed!!! in some quarters.
Living in Toronto, international city, least "Canadian" city in the country, I can tell you, "Relax, it'll be alright."
We are becoming a little bit like them and they are becoming a little bit like us. In a couple of generations, relatively "new" Canadians will be as alarmed as you are about recent immigrants.
On the plus side, from your point of view, one should keep in mind that "Canadian identity" is largely formed by our shared experiences in coping with this very big, very cold country.
In the middle of the winter when I am waiting for the cross town bus on Bloor St. on a Sunday morning, so that I can join the other strap hangers because the subway isn't open yet, I look into the faces of my fellow sufferers, from Asia and from the Caribbean, and see the same grim look of endurance that has been shared by Canadians all over the country, for generations.
We have made the country, but the country has also made us, as it will make the newcomers too.edit on 17-4-2013 by ipsedixit because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Yah...kinda hard-pressed to admit it though, weren't they?
Originally posted by ipsedixit
I spent the winter of 70-71 in Vancouver. What a culture shock that was! BC is almost nothing like the ROC. Laid back, relaxed, focused on Hawaii, California, Wreck Bay and doobies. I grew up in New Brunswick. I didn't think these people were even Canadians. But they were.
If this is is a line of conversation about politics and regional animosity...our American friends must be thinking we're pretty tame, eh? No matter...my Canada includes Florida!
Originally posted by IronArm
I do, unfortunately, look up to the US for one thing. If you become an American, you are American. Be American. Or at least try. Canada spends far too much time bending over backwards to make exceptions for new imports don't you agree?
In an interview on CBC's The National Tuesday, Trudeau was asked how would he -- if he were prime minister -- handle a similar incident. The neophyte leader said beyond "any material immediate support" Canada should "look at the root causes." "But there is no question that this happened because there is someone who feels completely excluded, completely at war with innocents, at war with a society. And our approach has to be, okay, where do those tensions come from?" he said.
"When you see this kind of violent act, you do not sit around trying to rationalize it or make excuses for it or figure out its root causes," Harper said, speaking to journalists in London, where he attended the funeral for Margaret Thatcher. "You condemn it categorically, and to the extent that you can deal with the perpetrators, you deal with them as harshly as possible, and that is what this government would do if it ever was faced with such actions."
Originally posted by stirling
How stupid are people?
Justin Trudeau = another Obama.....
a hollow construct of the spindoctors with the strings of power reaching far into the back rooms. of international bankery.....