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It's rather rich how every time some unbalanced person kills him/herself and/or others with a gun, the rabid gun rights defenders suggest it is part of some big gub'mint conspiracy to take away their guns.
So if he didn't outright intend and plan this, he sure knew he wasn't mentally far from it, IMO. That doesn't mean anyone else may have seen it ...but I can't believe the person doing it isn't aware in advance.
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by Swills
Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.
It appears that this is still a breaking story of sorts.
Personally, I think you're trying way too hard, looking for something that is not there.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I can buy coincidence sometimes....but this actually was the subject of another story (the race) earlier which I passed over that noted the Media was avoiding mention of the fact this was NRA sponsored. So... It would seem the place he went may, not certain, but may have very well had relation to the method he died. (similar to the shooting range suicides.....I mean there is a point where you have to stop and ask, ya know?)
In a time where "false flag" is a term so over-used that it's almost silly at times, I really DO start to wonder when it's SO blatant for two seemingly unrelated things being overlapping to the point of almost coming beyond belief.
Originally posted by billy565
WTH? Why would anyone go to a race sponsored by the NRA and commit suicide using a gun if it wasn't a statement?
Views on politics
Records show that Loughner was registered as an Independent and voted in 2006 and 2008, but not in 2010. A YouTube channel under an account called "Classitup10" was linked to Loughner. (There have been numerous copies of 'impostor accounts' such as 'JaredLoughner' and 'Classitup1O'.)
Loughner's high school friend Zach Osler said, "He did not watch TV; he disliked the news; he didn't listen to political radio; he didn't take sides; he wasn't on the Left; he wasn't on the Right." But a former classmate, Caitie Parker, who attended high school and college with Loughner, described his political views prior to 2007 as "left wing, quite liberal," "radical."
In the aftermath of the shooting, the Anti-Defamation League reviewed messages by Loughner, and concluded that there was a "disjointed theme that runs through Loughner's writings", which was a "distrust for and dislike of the government." It "manifested itself in various ways" – for instance, in the belief that the government used the control of language and grammar to brainwash people, the notion that the government was creating "infinite currency" without the backing of gold and silver, or the assertion that NASA was faking spaceflights.
 Dislike for Gabrielle Giffords
According to a former friend, Bryce Tierney, Loughner had expressed a longstanding dislike for Gabrielle Giffords. Tierney recalled that Loughner had often said that women should not hold positions of power. He repeatedly derided Giffords as a "fake". This belief intensified after he attended her August 25, 2007 event when she did not, in his view, sufficiently answer his question: "What is government if words have no meaning?" Loughner kept Giffords' form letter, which thanked him for attending the 2007 event, in the same box as an envelope which was scrawled with phrases like "die bitch" and "assassination plans have been made". Zane Gutierrez, a friend, later told the New York Times that Loughner's anger would also "well up at the sight of President George W. Bush, or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government."
Originally posted by MrWendal
Now, isn't the infield of a racing event literally the middle of the track? If so, how did he get to that area without being seen? Access to that area would be restricted. How did the truck get to the infield? You can not simply drive your personal vehicle there.
Get in the middle of the action by camping in the infield reserved area during a race weekend! The extensive infield camping area offers several types of reserved spaces — Wall, Interior, and paved Paddock. Reserved Infield RV spaces are approximately 20’ x 40’. All infield camping also requires that each person have an Infield Ticket, which can be purchased at the gate
According to police, alcohol may have been involved in the shooting, and the altercation that preceded it