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posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 01:37 PM
reply to post by AboveBoard

Thank you for your reply - I have had several CBCs done, levels were within expected ranges though a slightly elevated WBC indicating a possible infection but I was told it was so slightly elevated it wasn't much to worry about. I had asked the doctors about a sinus infection and they said that the medical imagery did not indicate anything in the 3 sinus areas, but that I had very "juicy" lymph nodes on my neck.

I did have the opportunity to have my blood drawn for a CBC around 4:30pm one evening, very close to when the symptoms usually hit me, and I was found to have a "moderately" elevated WBC and was prescribed one week of high intensity antibiotics, which didn't seem to have any effect. Another poster has suggested that I attempt to get to the ER and ask for a CBC during the times that the symptoms are at the fullest which I am going to try to do!

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 01:38 PM
reply to post by WorkerOfLight

I have noticed that any scabs I get do have coloured fibres in them, but I had just figured that this was from my clothes... I will have to look into this further, thanks for the info!

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 01:59 PM
Hombero I get similar to you when the symptoms come on try grabbing both sides of your head and pulling your Head upwards you should head your neck start to make loud (Wooden sounding) popping noises

Do you also get a real nasty pain in the right lower abdomen? similar to appendicitis? I was checked for appendicitis too I don't have it doctors say it's "Constipation" BULLCRAP! funny when I had bad constipation when I was 13 it didn't feel like this does!

Mine started Dec 2011 after taking Erythromycin I could not stop Crapping the feces were GREY! as soon as I ate something I was Crapping a quarter of a second later and the nerve running through my chest was BULGING OUT going from my lower right abdomen to my left shoulder then came the INTENSE PAIN in my lower right abdomen which lasted a WHOLE YEAR (in fact I've still got it) the pain started what felt like something electrical going up from my right hip region and RIPPING A CHUNK straight out of my LIVER then going back down and shooting a bolt of electrical pain straight across to the other side this continued for six weeks then it stopped only to be replaced with Insanely chronic intestinal pain in the lower right hand side and the doctors say your blood testing was clear your urine tests were clear eat more fruit and vegetables :shk: yeah funny how I CAN CRAP and the PAIN IS STILL THERE!
edit on 15/4/13 by fr33kSh0w2012 because: fixing up typos and getting facts straight

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 02:09 PM
reply to post by fr33kSh0w2012

Thank you for the reply - I will try the head pull to see if I get any of the pops you describe when the symptoms return in a couple hours. Yes, I do get a intense pain in my lower right abdomen, about 2 inches above my waist line, it doesn't happen every night though, and sometimes it happens during the day as well when I have no other symptoms. I too was poked and prodded to check for appendicitis and was told I did not have it either

edit on 15-4-2013 by hombero because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 03:55 PM
Ok, I don't want this to come across wrong, but...........are you pulling our leg here?

You seem to have everything everyone has mentioned. Most of which, you didn't mention in the OP. You either neglected to tell us all of it, you are a hypercondriac, or you also suffer from memory loss.

Please, if you really are having all of these symptoms, seek multiple opinions until you get to the bottom of this.

My unprofessional opinion is you are lonely, stressed out, and dwell too much on what is wrong with you only worsening the situation.

I don't mean to be cruel. I suffered my own bout of undiagnosable "stuff" until my first cranial massage during my chiropractor visit. It just seems that every time a symptom is mentioned, you have it.........

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 05:14 PM
reply to post by Doodle19815

I have had a lot of symptoms, I just didn't manage to remember them all to list in the first post, or didn't think they were related, and some were only realized after other posters asked me to try things like to push on my head and see if it caused pain...

I'm trying my best to not jump to conclusions or identify with all of the things that people are suggesting, which is why re the Morgellon's suggestion I said that I figured they were just threads from my clothes

I'm not sure what else to tell you, or why you would think I would actively enjoy spending a lot of time responding to all the replies individually if I were making it up. Maybe you're right and I am just crazy, I'm so drained and low from the whole thing that I don't even know what to think or feel anymore so perhaps I am just nuts

As an edit:

I just reviewed all of the posts that I have made responding to those that posted here and aside from my having not mentioned the whiteness at the back of my throat, and confirming that I do have tonsil stones, and that I sometimes feel pain in my abdomen on the right side, I'm not able to see anything further that I have listed as a new symptom that wasn't in the OP.. When I was talking about my scabs I meant any that I generally have, not that I have an abnormal amount for any unexplained reason as a symptom or anything

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posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 05:22 PM
Thank you everyone for all of your concern, positive wishes and suggestions - I will try them all out and hopefully find some relief.

Thank you again,


posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 05:48 PM
reply to post by hombero

If you are being honest, I am truly sorry. I would never mock a person's illness. I wish you the best of luck in finding good health.

Please keep us updated on your findings. Your thread could help another person going through the same things as you. You are brave to step forward and seek advice publicly.

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 05:57 PM
I've asked a mod to close the thread. I'm hoping this way the suggestions that were given to me can be accessible to anyone else who might find themselves in a similar situation and are looking for answers and possible solutions in the future - if you are reading this and are experiencing a similar ailment don't give up - I'm confident there's an answer somewhere - hopefully contained in this thread - we just have to find it!

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 07:03 PM
Did you try what I said!

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 07:09 PM
reply to post by fr33kSh0w2012

Yes I tried yesterday but wasn't able to produce any cracking or popping noises, tried again right now and still wasn't able to - I do sometimes get a bit of a pain in my lower right abdomen an inch or two above my waist though

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 08:44 PM
I don't know everything you've already done but here's my personal opinions along with any advice I could think of right off the bat;

To me, the 5pm thing changes the whole thing IMO. When something is not as constant or completely randomized, it really narrows the possibilities.. which might be a good thing actually because it rules stuff out leaving less things it could be. I mean, things like infections, disorders, and diseases, typically don't appear to work on a "schedule," you know?
The whole symptoms in the afternoon thing just really makes it sound like it could possibly be environmental...
Meaning something you're touching, breathing in, eating..etc something that youre getting exposed to or have levels building up throughout the day, where your body reacts to with.
But bodies can be strange and really surprise you, so I won't rule anything out just in case.

Here's what I would personally do if it were me and I had already gotten some tests done like what you said you have;

1. Make a list of all the physical and mental symptoms and keep it updated if any new ones appear. Then type it up twice.... One with them all written in order, from most prominent to the least. Another in chronological order from when they first appeared to later appearing.
The lists will help you get the big picture, recognize any trends or patterns (so for a hypothetical example; maybe you realize that all the main symptoms happen to be somehow related to the nervous system which helps narrow the field significantly). It will document changes that you might need to look back on for help when playing diagnoses detective online, can be used as a basis for researching the web, and then of course, should be given to any doctors seen regarding it to increase chances of getting diagnosed & documentation.

2. Keep a daily log with details (times, symptoms, intensities, changes, anything that intensified/alleviated symptoms, things tried in attempt to help & the effect such as took tylenol). The log can help look and recognize any trends or patterns, and should be printed then given to any doctors seen to help them understand the situation as a whole better, document it, and help rule out or even inspire to think of possible diagnoses.

3. Think and write down for yourself and again- doctors, anything that had possibly changed right before the episodes started... No matter how seemingly insignificant or unrelated they may seem to be. You'd be amazed at how some people's bodies have freak reactions to small things. Use anything that has chemicals in it or anything that could lead to an allergy...nothing is to small (moved, used a cleaning supply in your house or car, environment change at work, change in drinking water, something very stressful, new laundry detergent, change in diet, change in season/pollen amounts, painted walls, new lotion, new pet, new medication, new pain in a body part..etc). This could help rule things in or out & maybe lead to figuring something out.

4. 'If you haven't already, I personally would most definitely some how start a round of broad spectrum antibiotics just in case.. I don't care if some test results claimed I didn't have any active infection... It won't hurt so the worst case scenario, you do it for nothing... This is in case you have some type of bacteria, somewhere, any where, (like in a tooth or something), that's levels fluctuate as your body battles continually with it and then in turn causes things like fever, swollen lymphnodes, fatigue, headache..etc.
Ask the doctor for a script for "better safe than sorry," even lie if you have to and say you have an inner ear infection or something, use old ones left over from the past that you never took or finished (even if expired or not a full round), or ask friends/family if they have any old bottles of them laying around.

5. It could be a mold or mildew or something you can't see that just appeared or that you developed an allergy to that you didn't have before (which happens often). Headache, swollen glands..etc can be possible allergy symptoms.
So to rule out, just try keeping high, constant levels of Benadryl in your system for a few days and see if there's any change at all.
If so, that means it's allergies and you can get your blood taken (not skin test, those failed me in the past showing very different results from my blood test) and if you find out it's something like dust mites that you developed a severe allergy to, you can get a personalized cocktail of all the allergies you are positive for and get allergy immunization shots, which will eventually make you not allergic for the rest of your life.

6. Then also try things like- during a symptom episode, eat something sweet with carbs (like cookies or donuts) and drink a whole bottle of Gatorade then see if it makes any difference.
Body needs change.... So this rules out the chance that you're need for something has increased and so you get a buildup of deficiency throughout the day. The Gatorade and sweets rules out symptoms related to fluids, electrolytes, and/or sugar.

7. Consider any medications (prescription or not) or anything else your taking... Make sure you're not having side effects or even symptoms from it crashing out of your system. (For example; you could be drinking alcohol or caffeine and afternoon is when the levels drop in your blood stream significantly and your body is currently overly sensitive to it, so gets strange symptoms when this happens.. almost like a tiny withdrawal)

8. Make some lifestyle changes to see if it helps them disappeare or even minimize a little.... Worst case scenario, they don't but you'll be healthier bc the changes are good ones you should do regardless (only you have an excuse to make yourself do it).
Eat better foods, smaller portions, more often, and not past 6:30pm.
Don't smoke tobacco.
Don't drink alcohol or caffeine.
Exercise at least 30 mins a day, (even if it's at home walking fast in place while lifting soda cans in front of the TV during your fav show).
Get at least 6 hours of sleep a night.
Minimize stress & try 5-30 min of meditation a day.
Take a daily multivitamin every day.
Drink lots of water.
Clean often & don't use harsh chemicals for it (wipe dust, vacuum, wash bedding, clean air vents, wipe bathroom mildews, spray basement molds...etc)
You get the point... Anything towards a healthier body & mind to increase strength to beat this thing you have.

9. Use the net! Go and play detective & don't give up! There are many sites with "symptom checkers" where you type in like the top 1-10 symptoms and it will list possible causes. Use google to find the type of doc you need specialist wise (internal medicine, rheumatologist, Go to rateMDs and pick out the best of the best! Post on many forums in case someone else thinks of what it possibly is, relates to it, or even already solved & beat it themselves. Never give up!

10. If you haven't already, get blood taken beyond just a CBC... Things like toxicology, like for heavy metals and stuff, even hormones (not just sex hormones but also endocrine hormones like thyroid and adrenal ones). it might take you being the aggressive one and literally telling the doctor what you's your body. They rarely say no bc there's no harm in being overly cautious and testing everything so they make $ and you get either diagnosed or peace of mind trying. Give a list to the doc of stuff you want tested and ask them to add anything else they think may help that's not on it. Ask for one big blood test to look for levels of for things like Ph, ferritin, lead, iron, lactate, calcium, sodium, potassium, magnesium, BUN, chloride, folate, creatinine, glucagon, phosphate, zinc, TSH, PTT, pyruvic acid, vitamin A..etc.

Sooo -
Please DON'T skip the daily multivitamin thing if you aren't taking one already. It will strengthen all systems like immune to maybe beat this... Or it could even solve the problem itself (like if you were deficient in a something that was needed as a precursor to make something your body needed, like a hormone in your blood or neurotransmitter for your nervous system).

Hope even a little bit of this helps in some way and good luck.

posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 09:33 PM

Originally posted by hombero
reply to post by fr33kSh0w2012

Yes I tried yesterday but wasn't able to produce any cracking or popping noises, tried again right now and still wasn't able to - I do sometimes get a bit of a pain in my lower right abdomen an inch or two above my waist though

Hmm.. Strange when ever I get a painful neck these usually work

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 02:55 AM

Originally posted by hombero
reply to post by WorkerOfLight

I have noticed that any scabs I get do have coloured fibres in them, but I had just figured that this was from my clothes... I will have to look into this further, thanks for the info!

This is not good bro.

This would be an indication of Morgellons.

Which is a chemtrail crime.

Please give this a read.

I was hoping this wasn't what you had. I do not know how to cure this. Anything else but this =\.

PART IV: MAGNETIC (ELECTROMAGNETIC) PROPERTIES OF THE GROWTH FORMS: The magnetic (and consequently, the electromagnetic) properties of the primary Morgellons growth form are now proven in a direct fashion. The video segments below show the response of both the culture derived form and the oral sample to a strong magnetic field. These demonstrations will call into consideration each of the papers written on the subject of electromagnetics by this researcher. One such topic will be the extended research that has been done that reveals the ambient presence of unaccounted Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) energy over a testing period of several years. The human electromagnetic system operates primarily within the ELF portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. The sensitivity and response of the Morgellons growth form to the electromagnetic spectrum is another of the many primary fields of research that requires funding, resources and skilled personnel to complete. The identified presence of iron and ferromagnetic compounds within the growth forms establishes the basis of this future research, along with the direct demonstration of the magnetic response shown below:

The best success of decomposition has eventually come forth with the use of a commercial hair declogger used in plumbing systems. This solution is primarily a combination of concentrated sodium hydroxide and concentrated potassium hydroxide. This solutions is highly caustic. The greater success of this method also becomes dependent upon the use of applied heat over an extended time period. It was with the use of this method that valid comparisons, both chemically and spectroscopically, could be made. Considerable work remains before us to acquire the detailed biochemical knowledge of the internal nature of the environmental filaments; this work will continue as the proper resources and equipment avail themselves.

Get a 30x microscope and the next time you see a fiber. Look at it under a microscope.

I too have checked my gray hairs under a 30x. To see if there is any fibers. I have seen blue and red fibers. But I try to convince myself that this is not morgellons because I know how to cure everything else but this.

Due to the fact that this is a protein genetically engineered to create it's own red blood cells. It responds to magnetism (Which makes me think why they are forcing people to use smart meters) and completely messes with the bodies composition. Such as thyroid, oxygen, and amino acid.

This is why you need your test results. If they wont give them then something is up. Threaten them in anyway you can. You need to see where everything stands.

I'm not trying to scare you in anyway, People on here will say it's not real. But my mother had this and I am afraid I do too but I try my best not to think about it. Because it's a nano machine and I'm not sure how to kill it.

Maybe Rife Frequency...

IDK how do you kill a protein?

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 03:00 AM

Originally posted by WorkerOfLight
I believe you have Morgellon's Syndrome! It's a self replicating nano particle that acts similar to a virus. When the particles are well progressed in the body, you may find red and blue fibers growing in lesions in the skin that are identical to the red and blue fibers that are found on United States currency. If you feel as if your symptoms are very similar to this syndrome, you cannot treat it with fundamental medical techniques; you need to stop the replication of the particle with an EMP(electro magnetic pulse) which can be found on several physics websites such as Good luck and I hope this helps!

Absolutely! Do you know if Rife Frequency works? Or the Beck Blood Protocol? Maybe his magnetic pulsar?

Please check my previous post by Carnicom. He is studying a sample from the year 2000! I can only imagine how they have engineered this disease since.

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 03:22 AM
reply to post by JrDavis

So true, with the skin scabs it could be a vitamin deficiency or a toxin robbing the body of a nutrient.

He should do what others have said and get a good multivitamin. Also taking extra B vitamin and E vitamin that supplies 1000s % of his daily recommended dose.

Maybe a 3 day fast-only drinking filtered water. Taking a vitamin with a biscuit/cookie to minimize upset stomachs. But for the most part zero calories (no diet sweeteners). Might need to let your body reset. Blood flow shouldn't pool in the digestive system, only blood flow would be focused on repairing/healing the digestive system.

With the fast, the first 10 hr's or so will be the toughest. The dizzyness will fade, if not it could be a metabolic disorder. Your body will substitute regular blood sugars with other chemicals naturally. After the first day your energy levels should return to normal.

After the fast, do not eat white starches. No sodas, not even diet. I'd do more root tubers for a starch source and ease your way into regular white processed starches.

Edit-I'd stay away from antibiotics unless you know for a fact you need them. A medicated skin cream should be OK to help relieve symptoms.

edit on 16-4-2013 by ChuckNasty because: as above

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 03:28 AM
reply to post by hombero

I agree with the possibility of the kundalini experience - a spiritual crisis which is brought on by a sudden awareness the self cannot incorporate without insight and sometimes help. Also - get a vitamin D3 everyday if your not getting lots of sunlight (like 5000 iu is in 1 health food store cap I believe and I take 2 of these). Could be an autoimmune thing where your immune system is kicking in with everything you ingest - attacking itself. This will exhaust you and there are hundreds of these so takes forever to find which one. Brought on by stress. Whole physiological thing to explain but 100% associated with stress. If you have had chronic (ongoing over a long period of time) or several acute (short term but frequent) bouts of stress change this. You can heal and there are lots of good things to overcome stress and this immune response your having. The odor could be associated with your central nervous system (CNS) being affected (all by stress as stress acts on the autonomic, sympathetic, and parasympathetic nervous sytem directly), and if not stress could be a pinched nerve or whatever else might affect your CNS (not a physician so don't know off top of head what else could act on CNS). You definitely sound depressed though so that keeps bringing me back to stress if for no other reason fighting this worry of yours. Reduce this. Read the lighter threads to help you laugh (there are some real comedians on ATS I've noticed). Do hatha yoga (look up instructions) to activate your parasympathetic nervous system (this is likely unable to get you in recovery mode so needs some help), think positive thoughts even when it seems hard, and rest. My best wishes to you for a quick recovery.

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 08:13 AM
reply to post by hombero

I'm so glad you've already visited someone to talk about your problems. I know that physically it may not help but, if you are going to fight this, you need to be strong emotionally. I know from personal experience how chronic illness can affect every aspect of your life, and it IS so depressing, especially when you just can't seem to find a way to control your symptoms. I'm not a religious person so I don't really pray but, I'm definitely sending positive thoughts your way. I mean it sincerely when I say I hope you find a way to beat the pants off of whatever illness is plaguing you. Stay strong, my friend!

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 10:57 AM
reply to post by hombero

Everything comes back as completely normal as to be expected for a 25 year old, moderately overweight male who smokes

Dying is hard. Quitting smoking is even harder. I did it for 35 years and it is finally killing me. Only then did I quit.
Some people have a higher tolerance than others. If you are having that much difficulty, you better find the strength to make the simple changes first. Then see how that improves upon your health.

The most difficult thing I ever did was to quit smoking. I was faced with death and... The Patch. It worked for me. It got me over the hump of the early days and weeks. I mean that. Without the patch it is willpower alone and if you are addicted to cigarettes then that alone is not going to be enough.

Hit me back if you want to hear more...

posted on Apr, 16 2013 @ 11:35 AM
reply to post by hombero

I apologize for the question in advance, but are you a heavy drinker?

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