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Originally posted by Xtrozero
I see you don't get a lot of stars to your posts and I think the reason is because you do not know state laws. In most states it is legal to open carry a weapon, so your post of "locked away not on display" shows that you are rather ignorant to your rights in this area.
The risk of being that way is you don't know when your rights have been violated or not as you slowly loose them.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by buster2010
yet another ambiguous law
carrying in the open in a non-threating manner provides -0- reasonable belief of impending danger to anyone.
the officer reasonably believes it is necessary for the protection of the license holder, officer, or another individual.
perhaps you interpret that to mean "anytime he feels like it" but it sure doesn't state such a thing.
and, considering the property was not rightfully returned, the citizen should sue the dept and the officers involved.
I stopped a guy for speeding late one night. When I approached his truck, I could see a rifle laying next to his right leg. I asked him why he had it there and he said that is was the way they carried them on the farm. I asked him if he had a concealed carry permit, and he replied "no". I told him that it was illegal to carry it in such a way without a permit. He stated that he knew the law, and it was ok to carry it that way. I had him step out of his truck, I removed the rifle and placed it into my patrol car. I wrote him a speeding ticket, then got out a copy of my state's laws on firearms. I highlighted the appropriate portions for him to read. I called him back to my car, issued the speeding ticket, then placed the statutes on the hood of my car and had him read the highlighted portions. After doing so, his reply was, "wow, I really did screw up, didn't I...". I gave him the copy of the statutes and instructed him to read the whole thing, several times. I gave him back his firearm (which I had unloaded) and instructed him to stow it behind his seat. I allowed him to contunue on his way.
My motto: I don't want to make a criminal where a criminal doesn't exist. Everyone is human and therefore will make mistakes. Educate them and let them continue on with life, a more educated person.
Not every cop is bad.
In my opinion, these two cops are fools.
He understand the concept of choosing the hard right over the easy wrong.
Originally posted by freedomSlave
Originally posted by projectvxn
I can tell you right now there's very few people in the country as fervently pro-gun as those of us who swear to abide by and protect the Constitution.
that comment makes me laugh every time
Well that is a fail seeing how much the constitution has been butchered since 2001
protecting the constitution one key stroke at a time on ats .truly freedom fighters the lot here
also what the hell did he expect , I thought fire arms were to be locked away out of view not on display for people walking by on the streetedit on 14/4/13 by freedomSlave because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jibeho
Open carry is a tricky situation and we have seen many cases in the past of people legally carrying in the open that have been illegally harassed and/or arrested by the police who are not familiar with the open carry laws in their own state. In this particular case in Texas, open carry is more common sight than in other areas of the country. The cop in this case clearly overstepped his bounds and didn't follow proper procedure. In cases like this you can get much more by simply using words and conversation vs. his attempt to physically disarm the man.
I do have to ask the question as to why the man was carrying an open rifle while at the same time he was armed with his legally concealed .45 while walking down the road. Just sayin'.... as a CCW holder in my own state I don't think I would feel the need to carry an open rifle along with my concealed handgun.
I'll have to bring up this topic over the weekend at the range. I know that some people just like to provoke situations and if I had to carry a rifle along with my CW I would carry it with an open bolt and no magazine to clearly show that I was not a threat.
Originally posted by freedomSlave
I find it odd how some people in the states get angry and offended when the government has stationed military personal at public venues or on the streets for what ever reason or case . but then but then are yet ok of people just walking around with their rifle . there is a shocking large group of eager vigilantly wanna be law enforcement ready to save the day and protect from crime with my gun out there.
I feel sorry for the police officers over there literately wondering if the next call will be another statistic with some guy about to go off the handle . guess now I understand why the cops there are so brutal with their guns drawn on traffic stops . here I thought only crazed lunatics walked around with their rifles . unless you know they were out far in the bush actually hunting .
sorry to bring you guys an outside perspective but for the life of me and the people I have discussed to about this whole gun debate/ argument going on down there no one can really grasp the reasoning as to why one would think it is acceptable to walk around with a rifle .
I think his carrying a rifle was reasonable. There is open season on feral boar in Texas and, not only can you shoot them on sight, they can be very dangerous animals.