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Originally posted by snowspirit
reply to post by VoidHawk
I understand the French not wanting ketchup poured all over their food. There's a culture built around their cuisine.
There's a reason French women don't get fat.
In the UK though, you'd almost be requiring ketchup for its minimal nutritional value
Proper food is an important item in the health of a country, and when there's national healthcare, the population should have good dietary habits. Like big salads.
I wonder
Do they call French fries frites, or French fries.
They're better with gravy....
Originally posted by Rocker2013
Originally posted by mypan
Wouldn't they be a better if these ideas are instill onto those students about healthy foods through good parenting and education rather that through blatant enforcement ? We need youngsters who can make their own informed decisions instead of nannying them around into hating themselves through young adulthood that they weren't allowed to eat this and that because the state said so.
I agree, but what do you do when this has clearly failed?
This is the way it has been for decades, with parents being left to educate on specific issues such as society, health, morality etc, and these are clearly things that are not being taught in many cases.
It should be the job of the parent, but the parent thinks it's the job of the education system. So there is no one to teach these kids about these VITAL aspects of life.
Originally posted by Cabin
I came across this old newspiece from 2011. I thought it would be an interesting share here, as I did not find any other thread about it.
I sincerely hope this is the right subforum for it I though quite a bit where to put it as it is an older newspiece, although after consulting in chat, I decided to go with education as culture/healthy eating promotion in schools can considered to be a part of education
The French government announced that starting this week, ketchup will no longer be allowed in any school or university cafeteria in an effort to promote healthy eating, as well as protect the country’s distinguished gourmet cuisine from disappearing beneath the American-conceived product—in both the literal and metaphoric sense.
"We have to stop children from being able to serve those sauces,” said Christophe Hebert, chairman of the National Association of Directors of Collective Restaurants and the man behind the ketchup ban. “Children have a tendency to use them to mask the taste of whatever they are eating.”
Hebert fears that the use of ketchup (and other condiments) desensitizes children from the gourmet essence of French cuisine, jeopardizing the future of the country’s classic recipes.
"Canteens have a public health mission and also an educative mission. We have to ensure that children become familiar with French recipes so that they can hand them down to the following generation," he told
"France must be an example to the world in the quality of its food, starting with its children," said Bruno Le Maire, the agriculture and food minister.
"Six million children eat in canteens every day, but 1 in 2 of them is still hungry when they leave," he said. "Nutritional rules are neither applied or controlled. We are making them obligatory and we will be keeping an eye on the menus."
Le Maire said the changes were introduced because common sense rules on nutrition have not been followed in the nation's schools.
Requiring cafeteria food to be served ketchup-free isn’t the only change students will experience at lunchtime. The new regulations also require schools to offer four to five different dishes each day, which includes a starter dish, main course, at least one dairy product (such as yogurt or cheesedessert, and healthy sides such as broccoli or spinach. There will be no limitations on bread, however, as baguettes must be available in an unlimited supply.
The rules leave young ketchup lovers here little choice. French schoolchildren are not allowed to bring home-prepared lunches to school and must either eat in the cafeteria or go home for lunch.
"They need to know that in France food means conviviality, sharing and having a good time at the table," Hebert said. “We absolutely have to stop children from being able to serve those sorts of sauces to themselves with every meal.”
But not all meals have to remain "sans ketchup." There is one exception: Students are allowed to eat ketchup once a week with—of all foods—French fries, which are also served only once per week.
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www.neontommy.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.nydailynews.com...
I personally like such law and would like something like that also introduced here. When I was in school, I remember kids eating everything with ketchup. It kills the sense of taste in foods.
The French people I know are very proud over their cuisines - after all French are known to be a gourmet nation.
The government is also doing good job in that area After that particular law also mayonnaise, salad dressings were banned from schools. Sugary drinks and sodas are also taxed.edit on 14-4-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by chapterhouse
Yet they eat fritz covered in mustard mayonize and onions, French Fries!! Stupid
Originally posted by mideast
I have made a thread about porno industry.
In that thread , some people said that banning porno industry is going to hurt their freedom
I wonder how banning ketchup is not hurting the freedom.
This thread
Originally posted by Rocker2013
Originally posted by mideast
I have made a thread about porno industry.
In that thread , some people said that banning porno industry is going to hurt their freedom
I wonder how banning ketchup is not hurting the freedom.
This thread
You're confusing adults with children, which is a dangerous thing to do.
The porn industry is not hurting anyone. It's a fantasy. It's media, just like any other. Would you be on a campaign to ban romantic comedy, or action films, or horror films? Why should YOU get to tell other people what they can watch?
The ban on Ketchup is to improve the health of children, and the protection of children is a requirement under law. Kids do not have the capacity to make decisions when it comes to these things, and parents and other adults are responsible for them.
What part of this are people not getting? You, as an adult with the ability to make decisions for yourself, can eat what you like. You can eat dirt for all the state cares. But adults have a DUTY OF CARE to the young who are not able to make those choices.
Liberty of the individual is one thing, but forcing such liberty on children who are not capable of making the correct decisions for their own health is just plain stupid. And if so many adults here think their kids should have that choice themselves, perhaps that explains why America is in the mess it is in?
No wonder obesity in the US is so incredible, if this thread is anything to go by adults have almost completely given up their RESPONSIBILITY of caring for and protecting their own children - from themselves.
Originally posted by brandiwine14
Strange....They do realize that ketchup is high in vitamin c and a and is loaded up on lycopene an antioxident that helps lower ones risk for cardiovascular disease. They do have low sugar/sodium brands that they could buy.
Or they could just take a few minutes and make their own some tomatoes and seasonings and they could make even healthier ketchup for the children to eat but I dont really believe it's about keeping kids healthy at all.