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U.S., China agree on Korean denuclearization

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posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 09:14 AM
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U.S., China agree on Korean denuclearization



BEIJING | Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:55am EDT

(Reuters) - The United States and China agree that the Korean peninsula must be denuclearized, top diplomats from both countries said on Saturday.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and China's top diplomat, State Councilor Yang Jiechi, made the comments following meetings between the two sides in Beijing.


Well it doesn't look like NK will be able to rely on China as much as they thought, if they're actually agreeing with the U.S.

I am pretty sure Russia is taking the same approach...this just leaves Iran still in their corner. Seems level heads are prevailing.




posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 09:24 AM
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Looks like N.Korea is losing their footing.

I just came across this article that is in regards to Kim Jon-un, and the crumbling relationship that is China- n.Korea.


North Korea’s Young Leader Tests Relations With China
www.nytimes.com...

Apparently the last time Chinese and N.Korean officials meet, it didn't go so well...




A member of China’s Politburo, Li Jianguo, led a small delegation to Pyongyang, North Korea’s capital, in November. He carried a letter from China’s new leader, Xi Jinping, which is said to have contained a simple message: Do not launch a ballistic missile.

Twelve days later, Mr. Kim did just that.

The relationship between North Korea and China, extolled in the past to be as close as “lips and teeth,” has faltered ever since as Mr. Kim, a political neophyte believed to be in his late 20s, has continued to defy Mr. Xi, a 59-year-old seasoned statesman.

How far the alliance between the powerhouse China and the impoverished North Korea has soured is now debated openly in the Chinese news media. Few call it a serious rift, though a spirited debate appears to be under way within the Chinese government over how to handle Mr. Kim.

But with Secretary of State John Kerry in China this weekend on his first visit as the United States’ chief diplomat, some things are clear.

The personal relationships among Mr. Kim and his Chinese counterparts appear to be less familiar than when his father, Kim Jong-il, was in charge. Analysts suggest that could be a result of the significant age differences between the inexperienced Mr. Kim and the much older Chinese leaders.

There has been no publicized visit of Chinese leaders to North Korea since the embarrassing trip in November when Mr. Kim thumbed his nose at Mr. Xi’s request for restraint.


Something tells me that Un won't be around much longer unless he changes his game plan. How does one remove the nuclear capabilities of N.Korea with out starting war?

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posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by retirednature

Something tells me that Un won't be around much longer unless he changes his game plan. How does one remove the nuclear capabilities of N.Korea with out starting war?


That is really a good question: "How?"

So far diplomatic pressure and sanctions have not worked at all. I suppose we could see if more pressure from either China or Russia would possibly bear fruit, but if the above is true, and Kim really did pretty much ignore China, I'm afraid that more pressure from them won't make a difference at all.

That only leaves using force, which most sane people don't want to see happen.



posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 10:01 AM
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Don't believe that for a second. Why? China needs a North Korean buffer zone between themselves and the imperialist West. Yea, they'll say this diplomatically but behind the scenes, they are supporting North Korea. They'd love to have America pushed out of the Asian Pacific.

China has been the major power behind North Korea. My opinion at least.



posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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The DPRK cannot be denuclearized,not unless you want to see Seoul obliterated within a few hours.

Not only that but it is the dprk's sovereign right to develop nuclear weapons for self defence,it has proven to be absolutely necessary when the USA has shown to the whole world it's intentions to invade the DPRK with the dangerous war drills ,this whole situation has been provoked by the USA,I'm pretty confident that a second Korean War will not break out though it would be too devastating,if you think they will be topped in a few days you would be gravely mistaken.



posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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Nk has lost it's main support China,They need new leadership now to regain credibility ,the U'n regime has backed it'self into a corner and will eventually implode,checkmate.
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posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 11:10 AM
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boy boy is showing he cant be trusted with big boy toys so he loses his bat and ball gets sent back down to play with the third graders instead of the fourth graders. geeeessshhhh how humiliating for them.



posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 11:12 AM
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As much as China wants NK to be its buffer, a nuclear arms powered NK is the last thing it wants to deal with, as other nations will want nukes and guess where it will be pointed at? Worse, it seems China cannot even control a fatboy from NK.

Today, China had finally and sadly woken up to realities. 500,000 precious chinese lives had been sacrificed to protect NK in 1950 by the devil Mao to re-plunder Seoul, and what had it got in return? Grief, suffering, pain and slaps in the face.

NK played USSR against China many times in the past to get what it wanted. With nukes, so too, it will do the same. It was China that assured the world if food and aid is given to NK, it would end its nuke programmes. It didnt. NK only use those aid to buy materials to clandestinely build its nukes, and now who dares trust China? It was a slap to China's reputation.

When China opened up, it became commie only by name, but capitalist with socialist tendercies built in, and turned around the nation. It's trade with SK is worth 60 TIMES that of NK. Worse, China still have to feed NK today, even after being played so often, slapped and even had their own citizens sacrificed for NK.

It is no wonder that today, many chinese are not only frustrated, but downright angry at the ungrateful beast NK had become.

To keep NK's ungrateful regime alive in today's modern focus on economics than past idealogies which are not even cared about is only to hang a dead albatross upon China and its People's neck.

USA and SK have no wish for wars, wish for dialogues too, but there must be a time limit to it, more so when Fatboy Kim is developing nukes and even raising missiles now in total defiance to UN and the entire Security Council - AN ACT OF WAR.

Best Fatboy Kim now go down on fours in Pyongyang, crawl all the way to TianAnMen and beg before President Xi for mercy and kiss his feet, swear off nukes. The kim regime had been nothing but trouble for China in decades, and will be more if spared.



posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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China is only saying this because they know Obama let alone John Kerry are the two most naive people on the planet.

China needs North Korea and vise verse.

All this started because of China's showdown with their neighbors over the Sea rights and the Islands in them that they think belong to them.

Before all of this Korean crap started, China moved attack forces to the coast of Taiwan and the Islands claimed by Japan just to the north of Taiwan. They also moved one of their best combat brigades and many air force fighters to the border with North Korea. If anyone thinks that China is not behind lil Kim 100 percent then they need to go check themselves back into school. Korea is the distraction that China needs to Take what they want when they see the U.S. at their weakest point ever.



posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by cenpuppie
Don't believe that for a second. Why? China needs a North Korean buffer zone between themselves and the imperialist West. Yea, they'll say this diplomatically but behind the scenes, they are supporting North Korea. They'd love to have America pushed out of the Asian Pacific.

China has been the major power behind North Korea. My opinion at least.


Actually North Korea is a creation of the Soviet Union and Stalin. China has never liked them. There was a time, the Korean War specifically, when not having a Western power directly on their border was a top priority for China but many people now believe that with China's ascension to superpower level basically, that no longer matters as much as it did in the past.

The most logical thing for China to do would be to agree to remove Kim and allow a new less repressive government to be voted in by the people, one not loyal to the West or China.







 
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