The government wanting to keep dangerous asteroids secret? Not according to this article!

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posted on Apr, 13 2013 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by jra

Originally posted by Trueman
Tunguska event created a big wildfire no records of personal damage as I recall. Last one, a lot of people ended at the hospital and some buildings got damaged. Sorry but evidence is debunking your post.


It did more than create a wildfire. It flattened 2,150 sq km worth of forest. Imagine if that had been a populated area and the destruction that would have caused.

But enough of this silly argument. Soylent's point, which still stands is that impacts are very rare events and we're only finding more asteroids, because more people are looking.


In actuality, it set the trees on fire instantly, and then the shock wave of the explosion knocked the fire down, as well as the trees. The studies showed that only the bark of the trees were ignited, and only on the sides that were facing the fireball. Any animal within a 500 square mile area would have been burned to the bone, like those poor herds of reindeer that thrive there. I do not think we could fathom what would be the result of something like this being unleashed over a major populated area. Certainly, if you were outside, you would have been killed and if you were in a large building, with a lot of surface area meeting the shock wave, it would probably pulverize, and kill everyone in it as well.




posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 05:33 AM
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Apart from Tunguska, the only other comparatively recent major impact event was the Kaali event, in Estonia. It occured more than 4000 years ago, and is possibly the only known major impact event that has occurred in a populated area. I visited the main crater personally. en.wikipedia.org...

Hopefully, impacts of this size are that rare. But there could have been more such impacts in places unpopulated at the time, or in the ocean.



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 06:58 AM
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Just a thought...

Most of the Earth is water so it does make one wonder how many have spashed down in the oceans nobody ever saw.

Could explain "rogue waves"... just kidding.

Yay for amateur astronomers! They scan the skies for no payment yet are watchful for the next "big one" that could possibly save lives.



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 08:22 AM
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There are more similar events, we don't have any record of them. Wanna see an example ? :

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by benrl
So let me get this straight, the government subsidizes farms for billions to grow corn we don't need to artificially lower corn and high fruitous corn syrup...

But finding civilization ending asteroids well that's a job for the free market...

Most ass backward thing I have ever heard.


mainly because it's a waste of money...if there is an asteroid coming that is going to hit earth, there is not a damn thing any government or human can do about it, why? we are having enormous trouble in developing an anti-missile-missile that can hit an incoming missile traveling at most, a couple thousand miles an hour. asteroids, on the other hand, travel at speeds like this one...ssd.jpl.nasa.gov... GB55&orb=1...8 km a second, which works out to approx. 18,000 miles an hour (and that's one of the slower ones)...California to new York in ten minutes (that's if the asteroid is going sideways)
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posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 11:24 AM
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A decade or so ago NASA claimed we had nothing in our solar system then or in the forseeable future to be imminently concerned about relative to Asteroids etc... . Now we discover we're literally surrounded by potential clamity and there are likely hundreds of large bodies whirling around our planet they haven't as yet located but are relatively certain exist. I for one give little credence to what comes out of official government sources and feel it's probable the Earth will be hit SOON with a rock much larger than the recent one over Russia and it will help to wake human life forms an this planet from their slumber. Things are speeding up and profound change to our way of life is near. If we do get slammed, look for spontaneous eruptions of all major vocanoe and the wracking of the earths crust through seismic activity. As many well respected scientists have claimed, it's not a matter of if the earth makes drastic changes, it's when? I'd encourage all interested parties to keep an eye on the USGS earthquake reporting center and Meteorscan.com.



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by OBone
A decade or so ago NASA claimed we had nothing in our solar system then or in the forseeable future to be imminently concerned about relative to Asteroids etc... . Now we discover we're literally surrounded by potential clamity and there are likely hundreds of large bodies whirling around our planet they haven't as yet located but are relatively certain exist....


I'm not sure where you get that a decade ago NASA claimed we had no immediate asteroid threats. Maybe they said they had no known threats, but NASA certainly didn't think that a an unknown threat could not exist.

That's sort of the reason behind NASA and JPL's "Near Earth Object" (NEO) program, which started about a decade or so ago. Before then, NASA did NOT know of any real threats -- but they knew those threat may exist -- unknown.

The NEO program was begun to find those threats, by surveying the sky looking for unknown threats. Because of that survey, we now know about many, many asteroids out there that we did not know about before the survey.

edit on 4/14/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: formatting



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 05:33 PM
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Before then, NASA did NOT know of any real threats -- but they knew those threat may exist


Unless you worked for NASA...., I don't know how you can be so sure about it. Or....Did you made that conclusion based in what they said?

Seriously man, do you believe them???? They work for the government.


jra

posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
...if there is an asteroid coming that is going to hit earth, there is not a damn thing any government or human can do about it, why? we are having enormous trouble in developing an anti-missile-missile that can hit an incoming missile traveling at most, a couple thousand miles an hour.


Blowing up an incoming asteroid isn't necessarily the best option. Nudging it off course would be the most ideal, if one has spotted the asteroid with enough time in advance.


Originally posted by Trueman
Seriously man, do you believe them???? They work for the government.


Just because some one works for the Government or a Government agency doesn't automatically make them a liar.



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 07:21 PM
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Just because some one works for the Government or a Government agency doesn't automatically make them a liar.


Off course not, it takes more than that.



posted on Apr, 14 2013 @ 08:29 PM
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There is also good evidence to suggest that there was a large impact in 3123 BC (Julian calendar) which I posted many years back here on ATS, but the thread did not get much attention. A few years ago an old Sumerian clay tablet was translated that suggests that a large object impacted what is now Köfels, Austria:


With modern computer programmes that can simulate trajectories and reconstruct the night sky thousands of years ago the researchers have established what the Planisphere tablet refers to. It is a copy of the night notebook of a Sumerian astronomer as he records the events in the sky before dawn on the 29 June 3123 BC (Julian calendar). Half the tablet records planet positions and cloud cover, the same as any other night, but the other half of the tablet records an object large enough for its shape to be noted even though it is still in space. The astronomers made an accurate note of its trajectory relative to the stars, which to an error better than one degree is consistent with an impact at Köfels.

The observation suggests the asteroid is over a kilometre in diameter and the original orbit about the Sun was an Aten type, a class of asteroid that orbit close to the earth, that is resonant with the Earth's orbit. This trajectory explains why there is no crater at Köfels. The in coming angle was very low (six degrees) and means the asteroid clipped a mountain called Gamskogel above the town of Längenfeld, 11 kilometres from Köfels, and this caused the asteroid to explode before it reached its final impact point. As it travelled down the valley it became a fireball, around five kilometres in diameter (the size of the landslide). When it hit Köfels it created enormous pressures that pulverised the rock and caused the landslide but because it was no longer a solid object it did not create a classic impact crater.

Mark Hempsell, discussing the Köfels event, said: "Another conclusion can be made from the trajectory. The back plume from the explosion (the mushroom cloud) would be bent over the Mediterranean Sea re-entering the atmosphere over the Levant, Sinai, and Northern Egypt.

"The ground heating though very short would be enough to ignite any flammable material - including human hair and clothes. It is probable more people died under the plume than in the Alps due to the impact blast."

Source: phys.org



posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 03:47 AM
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Interesting theory, but rationalwiki.org... says that the Köfels site has been dated with radiocarbon dating of wood buried by the landslide to about 9800±100 years ago.



posted on Apr, 15 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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Thanks for that tid-bit. Shame, it was a nice theory wasn't it.





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