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Ex-military bio-enviromental engineer Kristan Meghan blows whistle on Air Force chemtrails

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posted on Apr, 29 2013 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

She is also on record as saying she does not know anything about "chemtrails" - also not my opinion.


Do you happen to have a link for that "claim"?




posted on Apr, 29 2013 @ 05:46 AM
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The links to another forum on page 1 and page 2 of this thread - eg www.abovetopsecret.com...

Although I could have used better language - she "believes" in them - but her whistle-blowing is not about them.

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posted on Apr, 29 2013 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE


You couldn't handle what I'm taking..........its called awareness.

She is a whistleblower..........if you choose not to see that, that is your opinion to hold and I respect that.



Awareness of what exactly?
The title and premise of this thread is wrong, by Meghans's own admission.
Debunkers ARE aware of that.
What are you aware of pertaining to this thread?
You seem confused.



posted on Apr, 29 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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Are you getting some awareness here? You can have some of mine but you seem happy to go without.

You are not even aware of factual information, posted and linked in this very thread, from Meghan herself, that contradicts the stand you are taking about her being a Chemtrail whistleblower. You might want to go and have a think before declaring what other people can handle and how aware you are.


Doesn't the regularity with which Chemtrail source information gets posted, then gets shown to be lies, ring any bells with you yet?

You are being duped.
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posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE
 

The links to another forum on page 1 and page 2 of this thread - eg www.abovetopsecret.com...

Although I could have used better language - she "believes" in them - but her whistle-blowing is not about them.

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In the title in the OP she wasn't called a "whistleblower" on chemtrails, so this discussion is just about semantics and hence pointless. To "blow the whistle" on something is not the same as being an actual "whistleblower".

She has worked for the Airfarce, has a science background, and has seen evidence to change her from a non-believer to a believer of chemtrails.

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posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by waynos
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Are you getting some awareness here? You can have some of mine but you seem happy to go without.

You are not even aware of factual information, posted and linked in this very thread, from Meghan herself, that contradicts the stand you are taking about her being a Chemtrail whistleblower. You might want to go and have a think before declaring what other people can handle and how aware you are.


Doesn't the regularity with which Chemtrail source information gets posted, then gets shown to be lies, ring any bells with you yet?

You are being duped.
edit on 29-4-2013 by waynos because: (no reason given)


For the most part all I see is rhetoric, and attempts at emotional baiting, ego diminishment etc, classic trolling techniques.

If you have a point to make and a link to back it up, please post it; and if you are able to - skip the dramatics, theatrics and high-schoolish posturing; trolling/baiting attempts will be reported to mods.



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by waynos

Doesn't the regularity with which Chemtrail source information gets posted, then gets shown to be lies, ring any bells with you yet?



Yes, in fact the regularity and frequency in which chemtrails threads are attempted to be debunked by mulitiple personas in fact sets off more than bells, it sets off alarms.

I don't see the level of "debunking/propaganda" on any other "out there" topics thread, such as on the NWO, bigfoot, WWIII, reptillians, grays, ghosts, Loch Ness Monster etc etc, so to my mind where there is smoke there is fire, and if this was a nonsesne topic it wouldn't attract so much attention.



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 03:27 PM
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In the title in the OP she wasn't called a "whistleblower" on chemtrails, so this discussion is just about semantics and hence pointless. To "blow the whistle" on something is not the same as being an actual "whistleblower".

But you just claimed here that she was a "whistleblower"?


She is a whistleblower..........if you choose not to see that, that is your opinion to hold and I respect that.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


You are the one attempting semantics. The thread title clearly states "Kristan Meghan blows whistle on Air Force chemtrails".

Can you decide whether she is or isn't a whistleblower and explain how the thread title is true?

How did she blow the whistle on Air Force "chemtrails" when she says she did not?



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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"blow the whistle"


You do understand as soon as she decides to "blow the whistle", she becomes a whistleblower...



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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How did she blow the whistle on Air Force "chemtrails" when she says she did not?


You must not have been listening close enough....



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

In the title in the OP she wasn't called a "whistleblower" on chemtrails,


Really? Looks liek it to me:


Ex-military bio-enviromental engineer Kristan Meghan blows whistle on Air Force chemtrails



so this discussion is just about semantics and hence pointless. To "blow the whistle" on something is not the same as being an actual "whistleblower".


??!!



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 04:06 PM
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To "blow the whistle" on something is not the same as being an actual "whistleblower".


Well then there you have it, someone that blows the whistle is not called a whistleblower...I have to ask, and I will probably regret this, but what do you call someone that "blows the whistle"?



posted on Apr, 30 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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You call them a whistle blower - as Word Origins notes (in part):


Whistleblower a word for an employee, especially a civil servant, who publicly denounces illegal or wasteful practices, comes from the phrase blow the whistle. P.G. Wodehouse uses the phrase in 1934’s Right Ho, Jeeves:

Now that the whistle had been blown on his speech, it seemed to me that there was no longer any need for the strategic retreat which I had been planning.

And Raymond Chandler picks up the term on the other side of the pond in 1954’s The Long Good-Bye:

Come on, Marlowe. I’m blowing the whistle on you.
....


This is just another case of a chemmie doing anything rather than admit to being wrong.



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 03:30 AM
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Pot and kettle, mate.

How can you accuse anyone of semantics when you say blowing a whistle does not make someone a whistleblower, maybe you can explain how that works?
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posted on May, 1 2013 @ 04:06 AM
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Well, if you consider pointing out the person at the centre of the topic declaring themselves to be a whistleblower on other activities but NOT on chemtrails, in a thread where they are said to be blowing the whistle on chemtrails an ATTEMPT to debunk the claim, can there ever be any concrete proof of any kind that could shake your blind belief? That is not awareness or open mindedness by any measure.

Sometimes where there is smoke, there is just smoke and maybe a few mirrors too.



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 05:03 AM
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S&F

Hope Kristan's voice carries

and isn't silenced by some accidental tragedy



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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You do realize that military personell get "hazardous material training" if they are handling things like windex in their shop, right?

I see some OSHA certs, some decon certs--all very common things for people in the military to get for some rather routine jobs. You honestly think an E-5 (and the title ex-bio-environmental engineer is very misleading, she does not have an engineering degree and the job title could have had her doing anything--given that she worked at the VA as well, she could very well have spent her enlistment taking out the trash at the hospital with a title like that.) You have to speak "governmentese" to understand that the fnacy sounding titles are a heck of a lot more mundane than they sound.

Here is the link to the MOS description.www.airforce.com... ing/ If you read it, you basically see it is really nothing more than OSHA workplace compliance.

Let's look at this logically: what would an E-5 workplace safety specialist know intimately about a super top secret malignant poisoning of the citizen's program?

Notice how none of these "whistle blowers" are scientists or engineers or officers who worked for the military, they are always low ranking enlisted people (not that there is anything dishonorable about being enlisted, I was one once) without credentials.



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by Enderdog
another perspective....

As vast and unbelievable as the idea that our own military could be poisoning us may seem....it doesn't require much in the way of conspiracy The automatic compartmentalization of military organizations, means that just a few at the top, can accomplish their ends by segmenting into tasks that normal good people will dutifully carry out. Fortunately, many of these puzzle piece folks are speaking out about what they know, and the picture is becoming apparent to just about everyone who pays attention, and questions their own experiences with seeming contradictions. What evidence do we have that Government has changed it's ways, since the days of the Tuskeegee Experiment, which continued for more than 40 years? Because they said so?


Great points. Certainly answers the question: "Would something like this be within the realm of possibility?" - A big "yes, most definitely" to that.



However, "within the realm of possability" and "actually doing it" are two very radically different things.



posted on May, 1 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
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To "blow the whistle" on something is not the same as being an actual "whistleblower".


Well then there you have it, someone that blows the whistle is not called a whistleblower...I have to ask, and I will probably regret this, but what do you call someone that "blows the whistle"?




Thomas the tank engine

www.youtube.com...


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posted on May, 2 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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Small enough particles of aluminum sprayed out over a long enough area, I believe could be possible of reflecting sunlight.





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