reply to post by LesMisanthrope
For myself, the most important part of this consideration we have had here so far, is the agreement between us that the body-mind is best viewed
as a whole single organism, or as I like to say, the whole body-mind.
This understanding actually provides the best basis for fully participating in life. If one assumes that the body-mind is simply whole, then one would
necessarily participate in life with the whole body-mind. This insight that the body-mind is singular does profoundly impact our lives if we allow it
to be more than just a mental insight, and actually live by this understanding.
What I mean is that if we only have some kind of mental understanding that the body-mind is best looked at as a whole, but do not live by the full
implications of that understanding, then we are simply living more idealism or abstraction into a part of the body-mind (the conceptual mind) rather
than as the whole body-mind.
Does not the body-mind also feel? Does not this insight also then completely oblige us to feel fully as the whole body-mind and not just think about
its singularity as a right intellectual concept? If we feel fully with the whole body-mind, what are the body-mind's actual limits in feeling? Where
do the body-mind's boundaries end in such feeling? (This was also one of the points of that exercise I mentioned earlier in the thread.)
And if we act as a single body-mind, fully, it becomes very obvious that this promotes right action in life.
When we fully recognize, feel, and act as a single whole body-mind, we are inherently moral in our actions because we are participating as a whole
rather than in a disparate or separated way. It is the non-integrated body-mind that gets crazy - with its parts all in conflict with one another, and
also potentially even destructive with self, others, and life altogether. So-called "religious/spiritual" idealists have provided plenty of horrific
examples of what such separation between the body and the mind can result in.
This understanding that the body-mind is whole and single is also the necessary basis for a truly spiritual life, because any approach that is
body-negative is at best only a partial truth due to excluding the body-mind in some idealistic manner.
So in this sense, the materialist and the spiritualist are best founded in this same principle - that the body-mind is a single whole and this is the
basis for right life. Where the two types go from there may be another matter, but this understanding that the body-mind is single and whole is
clearly the fundamental and real basis for both disciplines.
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