Hello ATS, I'm going to begin with a little story. When I was in late grade 1 my teachers in school had a hard time engaging my attention and I had
boundless amounts of childhood energy. I had a hard time sitting still because of boredom. I had an even harder time paying attention to the things I
found boring. I had all the classic symptoms described in the pharmaceutical industries literiture describing the description of A.D.D.
How did the classic symptoms of being a kid become the classic symptoms of A.D.D.?
So as a child I was told I had something wrong with me and that there was a magic pill that would solve all of my so called problems. Paying
attention and squirming etc...(Schools are only usefull in teaching about 90% of kids the other 10% find it too boring and require more interesting
subject matter to engage their interests.)
So my Teachers Doctor and parents were all telling me this would help my so called problem. As a child you put a lot of trust in those people
especially your parents because they are suppose to know what is best for you and so you believe them when they tell you something. The truth is as a
child you are easily manipulated against your will to do things you are told are in your best interest.
I as a child didn't like this at all. I didn't think I needed a pill, but I was told I had a problem and figured they must be right so I was placed
on Ritalin. This is where I believe all my problems originated.
Ritalin made me feel like a zombie gave me intense headaches and caused me to be socially introverted I didn't play much with the other kids any
more. I could have compared it to a lobotomy. To take the very essence of what makes a kid away from a child is a horrible thing. I was also given my
daily dose of fluoride tablets at home and a fluoride rinse at school. The fluoride rinse at school was mandatory and you got in trouble for not
partaking in it so most of us faked it.
I believe that Ritalin has caused permanent changes to my brain! I have twitches, I bite the inside of my cheeks when stressed out or nervous to
the point where it bleeds and becomes ulcerated, and have suffered from a debilitating depression ever since. I don't think its normal for a child in
grade 3 wanting to kill himself like I did. I have a hard time with life in general now everything is twice as hard for me. Doing average things for
me is now a laborious task. The reward signal for accomplishment seems skewed. I have been on antidepressants twice. The first time was for almost 2
years the second time was for about 6-7 months.
Does early childhood use of Ritalin cause a life long dependance on antidepressants? I've read articles that claim it does. along with twitching
and nervous ticks such as cheek biting and chronic depression.
Who do I sue for damages? It seems like a perfect crime to me. Do you sue your parents for being brainwashed by the pharmaceutical industry. Do you
sue your doctor? Do you sue the Pharmaceutical industry?
As far as I know its your parents that are liable as guardians but suing my parents is not an option. As a child I wasn't given a choice the choice
was made for me.
I always believed that Ritalin has caused permanent changes to me and now that I have seen documentation describing the after effects of Ritalin I
am now convinced especially since all of the after effects describe my current problems. Ritalin in a early developing brain does cause permanent
changes. But how do you prove it?
What could I have become if I was never given Ritalin?
Please ATS help me what do I do??
Here is some videos I think are relevant. Description found below.
This video is about the drugging of our children. It describes ethical issues about the drug industries pushing drugs on our children.
This video "The War on Kids" describes how the school system is severely dysfunctional and makes comparisons between modern prisons and schools, And
How children are over medicated with drugs which they can't be certain of long term effects.
Well... I do know that in my experience, being on ritalin did make me much more introverted. I have the same feeling about the anti-depressants that
my parents put me on when I was in 8th grade - I haven't been the same since.
What I decided was I can't really change the past, so the best thing to do is adapt and use the mind I have at the moment. It is worse for me,
because I've been on anti-depressants constantly since then, and developed my personality on them - but once I go off of them, that personality is as
developed as it was in 8th grade - but it's also the only personality that is able to get things done, like you, I have trouble getting much done.
There are probably good and bad things caused by the ritalin. I think your OP was written in a clear manner, for example.
First of all for a real case, you would need proof that Ritalin caused this.....I know, I know.....
But you would have to prove that you didn't do these things before taking the pill, and this caused all of this....
This is the main reason that children get these drugs, there is no way to prove you didn't do this before taking them...
You might be able to find a good lawyer who can get you a settlement out of court with big Pharma.....But you would have to speak to a bunch of
lawyers to see who would want to attempt your case.....
I am sorry to give you this news, but there has to be proof for big pharma to pay out big bucks (which they should!) for this causing all of your
I am truely sorry for your issues and I wish parents were more educated (not saying your parents weren't educated) to this type of thing and not
listen to doctors at every turn.....The doctor probably went on 10 vacations courtesy of Ritalin for prescribing it to all of his
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I was diagnosed with Tourette Syndrome at about age 12. By my mid-teens, they wanted to put me on Haldol. I did it for a few months, then got off of
it, cold turkey. Just decided one day that I didn't want to put chemicals in my body, and they my Tourette was - for me, at least - bearable.
Really pissed my mother off at that point. She thought I had this magic drug to make me "normal". Now, she sees I was right.
I am sorry you are going through this. My first grader has a teacher who told me her opinion....It was to see a doctor about Ritalin for him. I told
her NO and that she needed to give him something to do because he is bored. He is a top student and finishes everything before everyone else then
wants to squirm, play and chat. THIS IS NORMAL 7 year old behavior!
Anyway, your post did not say how old you were now? How long did you take these drugs? It can change the wiring in your brain and after you stop, your
brain needs to be rerouted. It probably will take some time, but honestly your OP was clear, understandable and did not appear off the charts with
Hang in there and never give up. Keep your diet as whole foods as possible as you already know. Life is definitely a journey. It is a shame that the
system tries to force this onto uneducated parents.
So basically, you are saying that MONEY will solve your problem and make things better? Suing someone is the answer?
Instead of dwelling on how you can make money on your suffering,why not focus on moving forward, with the hand you were dealt?
There is nothing you can do to change the past, and there is really nothing you can do to satisfy your urge to get money to reward you.
Everyone wants to sue everyone.
Remember that I am the one who has paid for the antidepressants remedying depression that may have been caused by Ritalin. I am the one who may have
been held back because of these side effects of Ritalin.
You need to do some homework on the subject.
If you were left with a life long problem which you believe set you back in your life substantially wouldn't you want to be compensated for it?
Especially since you weren't able to make the choice yourself because of your age.
Its easy for you to comment like you did but for you to live with the struggles I have had in my life would be a real experience for you. Feeling so
dysfunctional in your life that you just want to end it all. And suspecting a drug you never chose to take on your own free will may have been the
Originally posted by Wildbob77
Although this is a difficult period in your life, I think that it's time to take control of your own destiny.
Rather then trying to sue someone, why don't you figure out how to lead a life that you want.
I have been struggling with that my whole life. I have been changing the things I can. diet, exercise, vitamins etc
So do I have to feel responsible for damages caused by a drug? And the expense of trying to fix it. I can understand if I made an adult derision to
take the drug. But the choice was made for me by my parents,doctor and teacher.
I strongly believe the side effects have held me back in life. Yes I have achieved more than most but where could I have been in life?
I don't think that ritalin makes a person an introvert. It is the whole thing of thinking you are substandard that makes a person into an introvert.
They make us fear others because we are damaged, that is not the case though. If you look at the kids that they say have ADD, you see that they are
having fun and have lots of energy seeing a world full of wonder to explore. Einstein would have been a perfect candidate for Ritalin as would Bill
Gates. Society does not want creative people that investigate everything, they want people who do as they are told and look at what they want us to
look at. I see a major problem with people allowing this conditioning to their young myself. Very few kids have real ADD or ADHD, they are just
being kids in an interesting world.
The people running this society don't want others to enjoy life since they are not allowed to because of their jobs. Soon we will have a society full
of ants that cannot do anything on their own. This country and the western societies are getting all messed up. Why can't a person let down their
hair and have a little innocent fun without having to support the economy and pay high prices to have fun. I enjoy cutting and splitting firewood, I
enjoy going fishing after my chores are done for the day. I enjoy going to deer camp and letting go of society for a week.
Can't we have fun unless it stimulates the economy any more?
You are not damaged goods. You are not a second hand person just because you are not exactly how society wants you to be. Go out and mingle, it
doesn't matter what you look like either, people like to be around people who have energy and confidence. No negative attitudes should be allowed in
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These kinds of stories are always so sad......Do you mind if I ask OP, are you a male under 30 yrs. old ? It seems males in this age group have
really had this crap pushed on them.......
I never heard of such a thing when I was a kid....I just turned 50 yrs. old....things got "wacky" when my daughter now 22 yrs. old was in school...and
I have written alot about our experiences in the public and private school systems in other threads.
It has been my experience that schools are more and more becoming a place to learn how to sit still, learn how to take tests and follow the "rules"
much less hands on activities, no more shop classes that teach practical skills to kids that may not be college bound...less time for physical
activities...no more dodgeball or rings.....I've also been told by teachers and educators that schools are not geared as well toward how little boys
learn anymore........and again in my life experiences, little boys generally have more "energy" and don't sit still as well as most little
Self control and focus are something we LEARN.....how in the world could a first grade child be told they have A D D and be put on drugs ? The first
time I ever heard of Lithium was in a song by Nirvanna and my BF explained what it was......well.......it sure didn't turn out so well for his
"sanity"....the side effects of these drugs are dangerous...Clearly.......unfortunately your parents listened to some Bad Advice IMHO...and I hope
young parents will wise up......NO......you don't drug kids to teach them impulse control ........
I hope you find a way to "heal" through Nutrition and Exercise...you seem very smart...and I hope you will have no long term effects......
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