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Is there any possibility Kerry will be declared winner?

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posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:01 AM
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Edwards statement said that they will count every vote and be sure that every vote is counted. Kerry won't concede. The media won't officially call a winner.

Is there ANY possibility at this point that Kerry could be our next President? What would have to happen for Kerry to be the winner?

Jemison

[edit on 3-11-2004 by John bull 1]




posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:03 AM
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god I think of the results if Bush gets it again....



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:07 AM
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NO, bush pretty much got it already, he is the winner.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:08 AM
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Possible, but unlikely......unless we uncover some serious fraud in Florida and Ohio...which is possible.

I dunno. I really hope they dig hard, cuz iM sure there was some funny biz going on in Ohio.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:08 AM
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Kerry can still when the electoral college votes:

Bush has 254 while Kerry has 252

Only 270 are needed to win. Keep your fingers crossed.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:11 AM
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There is no way Kerry is the winner. None at all.
G.W. has the electoral votes. G.W. has 4 million
more popular votes. G.W. has more votes in this
election than any other president in U.S. history.

Kerry can fake voter disenfranchisement, he can
whine, he can stomp his feet, he can send Jesse
and Al to Ohio to stir up trouble ... but the bottom
line is ... he has lost the election (thank GOD!!).

This morning Imus (a Kerry supporter) said
(in ref to Kerry challenging Ohio) ...
'what? Is he drunk again?'


That was in reference to Kerry being drunk on
TV right after the Republican Convention ended.
Remember that? G.W. finished his speech and
ended the convention, and within minutes
Kerry was on TV ...he was either drunk or stoned.
Everyone noticed ... even his supporters.
It was a hoot!



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:11 AM
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Bush has 254 while Kerry has 252


Where is that number coming from? Is that with Ohio out of the equation?

When I went to bed last night 2 news stations had said Ohio was won by Bush and were pretty adament that they would not take it back although they did say that Kerry would contest it. I guess I just didn't stay up late enough for them to actually take Ohio away from Bush!

Jemison



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
iM sure there was some funny biz going on in Ohio.


You are very right. The radical left attempted republican
voter disenfranchisement. They slashed tires of the
republican vehicles that were being used to transport
voters to the polls. It was a criminal act. I hope they
investigate, and fully prosecute!



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Jemison
Where is that number coming from? Is that with Ohio out of the equation?


us.cnn.com...



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

You are very right. The radical left attempted republican
voter disenfranchisement. They slashed tires of the
republican vehicles that were being used to transport
voters to the polls. It was a criminal act. I hope they
investigate, and fully prosecute!


you think thats bad, earlier in the week here in Florida a crazy republican tried to mow down a group of democrats in his car.



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:17 AM
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BUSH - 286
KERRY - 252

This is what it really is. The news (and ATS)
are behind. Most have G.W. at 269 and are
waiting on 4 states to declare the rest.

Even at 269 G.W. has been re-elected. It would
go to the House of Representatives (Republican
Majority) and they vote in the President - which
would of course be G.W. Bush. The Vice President
would be voted in by the Senate.

However, 269 won't hold ... it definately will go
up to 286 for G.W. The 4 or 5 states that some
places aren't 'calling' yet have 99% of the votes
in and they are rather definate.

Final tally - Bush 286, Kerry 252



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by seedy_sid
you think thats bad, earlier in the week here
in Florida a crazy republican tried to mow
down a group of democrats in his car.


Was that before or after a crazy democrat tried
to mow down Republican Kathleen Harris -
the woman who worked on the 2000 election
problem in Florida (I'm pretty sure that's her name).

There are crazies everywhere, huh?



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:20 AM
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As much as I'd like it to be the case...

NO.

Bush won, and there isn't the discrepancy like last time. Unlike 2000, this election was not stolen. The people re-elected a moron by their own free will. It is a sad day for America, and for the world. Puritans who actually agreed with most of Kerry's platform were frightened into submission by the idea of two fairies being seen as "married", and so supported Bush instead.... I only hope we never get the chance to say "I told you so". Somehow though, it's really all but certain. Let's just hope we actually are ALLOWED to vote in 2008. To be honest, I don't think we'll really deserve to. In the chessgame that is the NWO....we've all just been put into "check".



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:22 AM
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FlyersFan, I hope you are right. I agree, Kerry lost, it's clear, he should put it to rest.

Yesterday I saw a clip of Kerry saying that he hoped that there was a clear winner by Tuesday night so that the American people wouldn't have to be dragged through another 2000. I had to laugh at that because with his 10,000 lawyers already lined up we all knew that if Bush won that wouldn't mean anything to the Kerry/Edwards camp.

I hope this does not drag on and on but I think it will. At the very least the lawyers can tie it up in court for a very long time.

Funny how anti-Bush people on ATS seem more willing to accept the defeat than Kerry does. I think Kerry should concede and be gracious that he got the votes and voter turn out that he did.

Jemison



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by seedy_sid

Originally posted by FlyersFan

You are very right. The radical left attempted republican
voter disenfranchisement. They slashed tires of the
republican vehicles that were being used to transport
voters to the polls. It was a criminal act. I hope they
investigate, and fully prosecute!


you think thats bad, earlier in the week here in Florida a crazy republican tried to mow down a group of democrats in his car.


Umm, wasn't that a crazy who tried to run down Katherine Harris (Republican), and then later said he was just trying to scare her?



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:35 AM
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Good morning Jemison


Well, I guess I will have to concede this one. Bush won the popular vote. In my mind, thats what counts. The people elected him. IMO, the people were frightened into voting for him. So whats a Kerry supporter to do now? We could cry foul and go to court over trivial poop, but it would just amount to more mess than there is now. Just wait though. The Rep's wont be able to contain the wrath of Hillary Clinton in 2008
Maybe by then, most of us will see that Hitl..I mean Bush had dire effects on the world today. Almost half of America saw this and voted that way.
Anyway, Jemison, I bow down and congratulate you and your party for a win well fought



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
iM sure there was some funny biz going on in Ohio.


Funny stuff in Michigan too .... ooooops ... by Democrats again!

www.humaneventsonline.com...



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Kidfinger
The Rep's wont be able to contain the wrath of Hillary Clinton in 2008


One name .... GIULIANI (is that how you spell it?)
Be afraid dems ... be VERY afraid .... bwa ha ha ha (evil laugh)

Wanna' bet that champagne was popped this morning at
2:30 a.m. in Hillary's house, when the TV news declared
Ohio to be a Bush state?

Betchya' her 2008 campaign went into full speed ahead at
that point.


rc

posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 09:09 AM
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Kerry needs to concede.......



posted on Nov, 3 2004 @ 09:09 AM
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Anyway, Jemison, I bow down and congratulate you and your party for a win well fought


No need to bow, a kiss on the ring will do.


I was fully prepared for a Kerry win and just kept telling myself that 4 years of having to roll my eyes when Kerry appeared on TV wouldn't be so bad.

I hope that Kerry will concede sooner rather than later and IMHO the longer it takes for him to concede and the more he challenges the outcome the more it makes him look like a sore loser and not a fighter for the people.

I think Kerry supporters are being much more mature about the loss than Senator Kerry is and despite the fact that Edwards' wife tried to make it appear as if you all would riot if Kerry lost I appreciate the fact that most of you are trying to make the most of what you see as a bad situation rather than make a bad situation much worse.

My hope is that the situation in Iraq will turn around and Bush will prove that though going into Iraq was not pleasant and seemed unneccesary, ultimately it was the right thing to do. A girl can dream can't she?


Jemison



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