The Fascist Gun Control Agenda

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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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ACLU POSITION Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right.


Wow Alcu pretty much worthless "collective" rights!!!!!
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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And Neo, do remember that fascist means corporate controlled... no laws, no policies yadda yadda happen without the corporate approval of the banks and the wall street crooks that you love so much.


Yeah FDR said something different:


"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. "


The second amendment is owned by a private group That has become stronger than the "democratic state" ifself that people have to beg permission to own a firearm., the US Federal Government.

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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:16 PM
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That was the precedent. How did I know you wouldn't be able to interpret that information correctly? If you really want to know who is behind the gun control 'agenda' look to the campaign donors and lobbies supporting the politicians that are writing the bills. I'll start you off with Feinstein...


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That is who Feinstein answers to, not the government... not to voters.



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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:21 PM
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What?

Corporations have absolutely nothing to do with this topic, apparently some people think fascism is a trait only unique to corporations fact is it isn't,.
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:31 PM
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Corporations are exactly what fascism deals with.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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Corporations are exactly what fascism deals with.



Tell that to Adolf Hitler, and the Third Reich.
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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Are you actually suggesting that Hitler and the Third Reich didn't have corporate backing? That they didn't pull any strings behind the scenes? Do you think Hitler just one day stood at a podium and said hey let's kill all the jews, they're evil and 2/3 of a nation just up and agreed? Or does it make more sense that he waged a well funded campaign? How does one man do that without lots of money to stand on?



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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She doesn't answer to the voters? Really?

Who's fault is that may I ask?

When are people going to realize that a govt. only has as much power and authority as a people are willing to give it? If enough people finally start giving a damn, and utilizing, as a group, their own power; the govt. will soon realize just who really holds the power.

But hey, sitting on one's ass watching reruns is easier than making the Republic work.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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Are you actually suggesting that Hitler and the Third Reich didn't have corporate backing?


Hmmm

Adolf Hitler's rise to power began in Germany in September 1919[1] when Hitler joined the political party known as the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (abbreviated as DAP – German Workers' Party); the name was changed in 1920 to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei – NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers' Party, commonly known as the Nazi Party).


en.wikipedia.org...

Odd for a "corporatist".



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:52 PM
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How many more of these pointless, alarmist threads are you going to make?

Is this the NRA forum now?


It’s only pointless to people who don’t realize the significance of the second amendment.

Maybe some people need to be stripped of all of their rights before they come to their senses…but of course then it will be too late to do anything about it, won’t it?




posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by seagull
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She doesn't answer to the voters? Really?

Who's fault is that may I ask?

When are people going to realize that a govt. only has as much power and authority as a people are willing to give it? If enough people finally start giving a damn, and utilizing, as a group, their own power; the govt. will soon realize just who really holds the power.

But hey, sitting on one's ass watching reruns is easier than making the Republic work.


What politician actually answers to voters? Maybe some small local politicians do but that's about it. People with money decide who our candidates will be, so yes... Feinstein does not answer to her voters, really.

Who's fault is it?

Ours. We got lazy and let it happen... and one of the ways we let it happen is to ignore reality. Some people would like to blame democrats, liberals... Feinstein, Reid, Obama and completely ignore who sponsors them. They want to completely ignore that money in politics is the root of all this foolishness. Some want to praise the job creators to the point of blind loyalty and not ever once THINK that THEY might be the ones reaching behind your backs to take your guns.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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Odd for a "corporatist".


Not for one determined to take over and control it then abolish it along with every other union. Do some research into what Ford and IBM had to do with funding the rise of the Nazi's... to start with at least.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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Funny I started a thead about gun control being fascist, and it has been reduced to anti corporatism.


fas·cism /ˈfaSHizəm/ Noun
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. (in general use)
Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:21 PM
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You're mad at gun control legislation and you're barking up the wrong damn tree over and over and over. Would you rather keep barking or would you rather actually bite the right target?



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:24 PM
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Calling gun control fascist is "barking up the wrong tree" ??

Hardly because it is papers please to the Gestapo the BATFE complete with their Gobbels:



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:32 PM
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I'm not trying to say you shouldn't call out or bring attention to things you think are wrong. That's our duty. But, you're not going to get very far if you won't look beyond the surface.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:38 PM
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Call it like I see it a group of people using and growing government a "right wing" ideology to take power away from the people.

That isn't liberalism, it's not liberty, the only thing it is is fascism the simple fact anytime a group of people use government to grow and take power away from the people is always labeled "fascism".

Not really my problem if those people aren't consistent GUN CONTROL IS FASCISM.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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Fasces (pron.: /ˈfæsiːz/, a plurale tantum, from the Latin word fascis, meaning "bundle")[1] is a bound bundle of wooden rods, sometimes including an axe with its blade emerging. The fasces had its origin in the Etruscan civilization, and was passed on to ancient Rome, where it symbolized a magistrate's power and jurisdiction. The image has survived as a representation of magisterial power. A secondary meaning of the bundling of sticks may have been "strength through unity".[2] Fasces frequently occur as a charge in heraldry, and should not be confused with the related term, fess, which in French heraldry is called a fasce.



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Gun control the mob using a "collective" right to deny or disparage the individuals right.

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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:45 PM
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I agree that it's fascism but you aren't understanding what's actually making this fascist because you won't look beyond the politician proposing the laws. What makes our country increasingly fascist is the corporate control over government... that includes authoritarian laws.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
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I agree that it's fascism but you aren't understanding what's actually making this fascist because you won't look beyond the politician proposing the laws. What makes our country increasingly fascist is the corporate control over government... that includes authoritarian laws.


Oh like mandatory laws making corporate products "human rights" everything, but guns.

That is fascist.





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