Rehtaeh Parsons, 17, Hangs Self After Allegedly Being Raped & Bullied

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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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I just tell them to give it their best. Because if they do end up getting whooped it could end up worse emotionally, like they didn't do you proud. Regardless, the point is that our kids will stand up for themselves and us as parents have their backs.




posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 02:29 PM
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According to you...

Kids should fight back but TM got what he deserved. See the disconnect?


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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Different circumstances, different scenario. Now, If GZ had followed TM back from the store and didn't ask what he was doing, yeah, he deserved to get beat and TM didn't deserve it. But evidence points towards TM ambushing GZ and so forth... There's a thread with all that info on it. Point being, GZ didn't bully TM. Use the search function.

You must really hate me to track me down! I'm sorry you feel such hatred towards me. But then again you did track me down so I don't know if i should be flattered!
Mixed emotions... I don't know how to handle this.

I'll send you a hug regardless, I think you could use one.

(((SQUEEZE!!!)))
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com... another thread on the matter more focusing on the anonomus aspect but their is some good (and atrocious victim shaming) post there if any one wanted more info

now this may get me in a bit of trouble with some members but i will draw a comparison that will mostlikely offend but hopefully open a few eyes

so bullying especially cyber bullying it wrong correct? and what is anon threatening to do? ruin these children lives with out a trial by using the internet to shame them.......sounds like bullying to me as well even if at least their motive is more on the side of good. why is one bully allowed but another not? its like how people will condemn rape(rightfully so all rape is bad) then five minutes later post that they hope the guilty gets raped in prison by "bubba" it seems that we only wanna condemn bullying when it goes against our own preconceived notions of what is right or wrong.ie your kid gets bullied so that's bad but when the kid who bullies your kid gets bullied its magically ok....seems we would have a better chance of stopping that kind of stuff if it was universally condemned

as to the case its self sadly with the girls death the rape charges are most likely off the table sadly,as with a lack of forensic evidence and a victim to testify they would not be able to get a conviction on that even with videos/pictures of it occurring. Now this brings me to the charge that is most likely to stick the child pornography charge (for uploading photos and taking them to begin with) but that is further complicated by canadas youthfull offender act www.loc.gov... seems that the max they could get even for kiddy porn is 3 years under Canada's current laws so even that wont really accomplish much in the way of justice

also while an admirable effort on anons part also under Canadian law juvenile offenders have a right to privacy an if they do publicly post the info such as names and whatnot would shoot down any chance at this girl getting justice and possibly lead to the case/cases being tossed out if they are ever brought to trial
few extra links that cover the justice system in Canada and the problems anon could cause for this girls case
schoolworkhelper.net...

13. ILLEGALLY OBTAINED EVIDENCE If any evidence used in the trial was obtained illegally without the judge’s approval, without a warrant or without permission, it may be ruled inadmissible no matter how valuable it is.

so if anon did any hacking to get the info they under the Canadian justice system torpedoed the poor girls case so unlike stubenville they may complicated this case more then help

and with Canada definitions of child porno if any one in Canada is a member of anon and looking at the pictures/videos of the incident they can be arrested for viewing it and if they post it its the same as sending kiddy porn
en.wikipedia.org... link to how child porno is treated in Canada as this is the most likely charge to stick at this point(if they even bring charges)

for the record im not defending these kids just stating how anon could complicate things in ways they did not consider and i truely hope the victims family gets some form of justice but sadly with the lack of evidence in the case the rape charges will not really be possible unless one of the kids can be tricked into confessing

ah the conspiracy deepens....allegedly the names have been posted in comments sections of an article(no i wont post them) but from what the comments say one of them is a RCMP officers son.......so that might explain why the cops took 3 years to even fully investigate the matter.....just figured this would be of interest to ATS
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by kimish


You must really hate me to track me down! I'm sorry you feel such hatred towards me. But then again you did track me down so I don't know if i should be flattered!
Mixed emotions... I don't know how to handle this.

I'll send you a hug regardless, I think you could use one.

(((SQUEEZE!!!)))
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Hugs....no thanks, I don't roll that way!!!!

and I don't hate you, nor did I track you down. Perhaps we just are interested in the same type of threads eh?

But I do feel the need to point out hypocrisy, deceit, sanctimony, and pretense when ever I encounter it.

Topic....we do however agree on bullying.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by g146541
While people pay attention to this non issue, what are we really missing out on??
N.Korea is being bullied, gun debate, gay rights, illegal wars, bailouts??
What is going on while this non issue is being paraded across the front news page?


Actually it's a profound issue! Perhaps one of the most profound issues facing contemporary culture.

The abuse and dehumanization of other humans by callous, unfeeling, insensitive people; is certainly not a non issue imo.

and from my cynical view point; it's only going to get worse with the continued dehumanization fostered by the corpratracracy and the "people like you" attitudes. ex. marginalization of those that you don't agree with, sexism, racism, politicization, etc....

God help us!
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Profound???
More profound than a group of corporations ganging up and bullying and murdering entire nations??
One mentally unstable little girl killing herself is a non issue.
Bullying has been around for a long time, I would guess from the time there was more than 1 person walking the earth.
The only difference is, back when kids were not doped into oblivion on "legal" meds.
So like I said, when you look at the REAL issues, this little girl really is a non issue.
But the "issue" sure will be plastered all over the front page to make it look like a real issue.
What say we look at the root cause???



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by madmanj

I remember reading about this, Now Parsons suicide is all over the news and her mother just took her off of life support. Anon has launched a new campaign and I will be watching that to see what comes of it. I hope these 4 guys get whats coming if they in fact did rape her.

hollywoodlife.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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The authorities need to do their job. They need to learn really quick that they are being watched by those who have the know how to bring swift justice when they won't. I mean, what the hell are we paying them for if they can't arrest perps that are a danger to society and make sure they get their 2 minutes in court?
I'd rather give my tax dollars to the anons who are making sure rape victims are going to get the justice they deserve. Anon did it in Steubenville and I'm sure they will be successful again if the authorities don't get off their fat behinds and start making some arrests.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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No hard feelings. I've starred more of your post than you think. I try to play devils advocate often and I'm also bad at putting my thoughts into words.

Point being: Screw the bullys! Zero tolerance for bullies. I've raised my kids to respect one another and if they disagree with ones beliefs I try teach them to put their selves in the other persons shoes. In other words, to look at things from both sides of the fence. Granted, emotions will cloud thoughts and rationale but that's when you take a step back and reflect.
. That's where my problem is, is letting emotions grab hold.

Btw, It'd be a hug, not a gay hug. Just so we're clear. lol Or a fist bump if that makes you comfortable lol.
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posted on Apr, 12 2013 @ 01:47 AM
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It is truly sad what happened to this girl. She was so young too.
To me, it doesn't even matter if there wasn't evidence after the fact because something terrible enough happened to her to cause her to make such a drastic decision. My only hope is that those responsible will realize what they've done and have to live with that guilt for the rest of their lives. Karma will come their way eventually.

Hey kimish, nice to see you again btw. Your bullying story kind of reminds me of what happened to my husband when he was in high school. He was made fun of and pushed around a lot. He was a pretty quiet guy then. Not sure if that was the reason he was bullied or if it was some other reasons.

Anyway, one day he was near the lockers and someone was really digging into him I guess cause he finally had enough and grabbed the kid and shoved him upagainst the lockers and gave him a good punch.

Needless to say, the kid stopped after that and everyone else backed off. He seemed to have less trouble after that.

Personally, I am not one for violence and will avoid it as much as possible, but it does have a purpose in some cases. My husband is a gentle guy, not violent at all but I am glad he finally stood up for himself then.

As for me, I was horribly bullied yet never stood up for myself. I felt alone and unsure as to why I deserved it. Took some time and lot of soul searching but I have a good life now with no regrets. I suppose I was able to deal with it eventually. For some it seems harder to do unfortunately.



posted on Apr, 12 2013 @ 10:12 AM
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And if they can't defend themselves? If he gets beat up? What then? Back to square one?



posted on Apr, 12 2013 @ 10:13 AM
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Even though I can fight well, I still think that violence isn't the answer. Your child shouldn't need to defend himself. If he gets beat up then its ya'll and the teachers fault



posted on Apr, 12 2013 @ 10:15 AM
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Can't you just complain to the principle instead of encouraging violence? Of course not because violence solves EVERYTHING right?



posted on Apr, 12 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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Physical violence should only be a last resort. Unfortunately most of the time it comes down to the last resort.





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