posted on Apr, 12 2013 @ 03:32 AM
Originally posted by threewisemonkeys
Originally posted by Pardon?
Before MMR you were looking at 1 in 500 to 600 deaths for people who had measles. That's just in the UK alone.
This is blatently untrue. The death rate in the UK from measles at it's peak was around 100 per year (1/5000). 1 in 10000 children were thought to
have contracted it. The vast majority got over it just fine. Granted, 100 deaths is more than 18 deaths, but factor in the other associated risks
known to be associated with vaccination that are not a foctor in the disease, and sorry but the numbers still don't add up.
Oh and just for fun, and as you like perspective so much, the chances of anyone dying from measels in this modern day is less than 1 in 55
million. Thanks mostly to hygiene and basic antibiotics. Nothing to do with vaccines.
edit on 11-4-2013 by threewisemonkeys because: (no reason
Apologies for my missing out a zero, that's down to my being a bit hasty with the calculations.
However, the original numbers still ring true. 100 per year deaths which are confirmed to be by measles compared with 4.5 per year which may have
had a link
to the vaccine.
It's certainly true that hygiene has played a part in the reduction of deaths but it certainly hasn't played any part in the overall number of
measles cases. You'll probably find that any deaths are more due to improper or inadequate nutrition too. With more and more 1st world families
falling into poverty because of the current economic climate you can certainly expect to see a rise in deaths per increase in measles cases.
What also isn't in the stats is the number of people who are hospitalised because of measles.
(Actually there was a study done in Italy after an outbreak and there was a hospitalisation rate of 88 in 100,000, roughly 1 in 1200 cases. The
complication rate was 7.6% lib.bioinfo.pl...
From experience I know that a child who becomes very ill because of measles will spend an extended time in hospital. Like I mentioned earlier I've
seen numerous children in ICU for weeks at a time being treated for meningitis, encephalitis and/or pneumonia. Do these children recover fully? Some
do, some don't.
Is that acceptable to you?
It's not to me. I'd rather they had no chance of getting measles in the first place.
So when making the choice for my children I weighed up the chances of harm from the vaccine which is little more than nil or the 1 in around 1200
chance of them developing complications from measles.
The choice was very easy indeed.