Anonymous threatens to out boys in Rehtaeh Parsons case

reply to post by DarKPenguiN


Right. People kill themselves for posthumous attention.

Originally posted by 123143
reply to post by DarKPenguiN

 

Right. People kill themselves for posthumous attention.

Glad we agree.
Most of these recent teenage suicides are exactly that...Not speaking of the average suicide which has been going on since time began- But the rash of suicides among teens in the last 10 or so years .

-Like the girl with the Video of her holding cue cards, sad because she showed her breasts online and blah...blah...

I High School I knew 1 person (a fellow student) who killed himself in the 4 years I was there. My son knows 4 already and he a sophomore- What has changed? Now its "National/World" news with an outpouring of sympathy for a selfish and stupid act. These kids are so self centered they cannot see past HIGH SCHOOL.

These kids are not killing themselves for reasons beyond being embarrassed and being picked on. These are not "real problems" and they do not deserve national/world attention or this will SPREAD... Why are so many "Cutters" around today when I knew ZERO in High school? Same reason- After School Special bulll# making it a "fad" and now a HUGE amount of teens are "cutters", apathetic and filled with "woe is me" over non issues.

I see it (having High School age kids) and am glad my kids and their friends (for the most part) are n ot so self absorbed that they think being teased is a reason to kill ones self.

EDIT: Also to note- The person I knew in High School who killed himself wasnt even from my High School .It was a rival school- My Son knows 4 from HIS HIGH SCHOOL. This is becoming an epidemic that wasnt around 20 years ago- When we died it was generally from a car accident...Now its "suicide" (so much more dramatic for the diva generation)

reply to post by DarKPenguiN


I wonder how many of these kids were fed psychiatric drugs since they were 5 - 10 years old. I'm a psychiatric nurse and I can't believe how they hand these drugs out like candy. Kids have rough spots growing up - a pill isn't going to fix it. I wonder about the parents who want their kids on drugs - who are probably taking some kind of anti-depressant, or anti-anxiety drug themselves.

The end of high school is the beginning of your life.

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by DarKPenguiN

 

I wonder how many of these kids were fed psychiatric drugs since they were 5 - 10 years old. I'm a psychiatric nurse and I can't believe how they hand these drugs out like candy. Kids have rough spots growing up - a pill isn't going to fix it. I wonder about the parents who want their kids on drugs - who are probably taking some kind of anti-depressant, or anti-anxiety drug themselves.

The end of high school is the beginning of your life.

I concur.

You could be onto something here-

Kill them all, let Lemmy sort them out.

the only question i have on these kind of things is does the whole legal issue of "fruit of the poisonous tree" thing come into play ie anon used (mostlikely) illegal methods to obtain this info would that not make it inadmissible in court? im honestly not sure if it applies but i know if cops illegal acquire evidence it is often thrown out is it applicable to this or am off base on this(not taking sides im not a fan of rape im just curious about this legal aspect)

could it not also effect the chain of custody of evidence? and at least in the usa people get to face their accusers usually it might be different in Canada especially with this type of crime but with her suicide will that not make it harder for them to try to prosecute now? seems a shady USA lawyer could get an acquittal based on that alone but again i am extremely un informed as to how the legal system in Canada works


schoolworkhelper.net...

6. VIDEO RECORDINGS A visually taped recording of a situation that could provide needed information for a court case. The judge has to decide if the people recorded have had their privacy invaded if the recording is inside a dwelling. However, no one can expect privacy in a public area. Thus, public washrooms (not inside the cubicles), any major roadway, intersection or bridge, public parks or parking lots, public areas in general can be videotaped and used against you without your knowledge. Videorecordings of your driving behaviour can be used against you in a court of law and are fully admissible. Cameras have a preventative impact and enhance safety. Many people however, have concerns about privacy and whether it’s excessively intrusive. Who is maintaining these cameras, who has custody of the records and how long would they be held.

so if i interpret this correctly it seems that it would be up to the judge and where it was filmed(ie in a private residence it might not be admissible)

***Remember, in Canada, there must be two pieces of evidence against an accused to find him/her guilty. Thus, even if you had an eye witness, you need a second piece of evidence in order to convict. This is known as corroboration. Corroboration is particularly important when the accused is being tried for forgery, perjury, treason and procuring a person for prostitution.

so this might also come into play in the case as well

and what i think is most relevant

13. ILLEGALLY OBTAINED EVIDENCE If any evidence used in the trial was obtained illegally without the judge’s approval, without a warrant or without permission, it may be ruled inadmissible no matter how valuable it is.

so i guess even if they do out them the evidence if attained illegaly will not be admissible unless the judge ordered the hackers to do it(something that is unlikely) so sadly other then shoving these boys faces all over the net it seems that it is very unlikely they will face charges

reply to post by lnfideI


have you yet stopped to think : why havent the RCMP filed charges yet ?

reply to post by Ameilia


They want to feel powerful and like they matter hence why they draw everything out and advertise instead of just doing.

Originally posted by lnfideI
The girl manipulated 4 drunk boys who were not in the right frame of mind to realize how dirty it is to have chain sex with her.

What's dirty about a consensual gangbang?

reply to post by ignorant_ape


I'm not familiar with the case, but I guess she went to the cops days later - which means she probably didn't go through the "rape exam" which means she didn't have swabs of her vaginal area done, her fingernails would have been scraped, her body photographed - all for evidence. That's how it's done in the US.

How many rape victims don't go and get examined right after the attack? In any countries?

How many rapes don't ever get reported?

I get very angry when some stupid woman, who just wants attention, does this, as it puts all the genuine rape victims into the position of being questioned if it was actually a rape.

This is really a hard, and ugly subject, that happens all to often.

reply to post by aivlas


She was 15 years old and maybe under the influence of a "date rape" drug?

reply to post by Happy1


It was written in a way that even without the context the fact it's "dirty" will still remain.

(deleted the link as some bastard posted a link her her instagram and well their are inappropriate photos of her there that evidently she posted before her suicide so it would be against the t&c so i have removed the link
this link which i will not quote from has a response from her father in the comments section and it also says that the names have already been leaked on 4chan(i never go to that site so i cant confirm) but i figured it might be of interest to the thread

dont think they will get them for rape but child porno charges might stick and would be much more likely to get a conviction as it seems the evidence in this matter is much stronger then the rape allegation( i only say alleged as they have yet to be convicted)


www.loc.gov... this one might complcate the matter as evidently minors are handled completely differently in canada then the usa(charging them as adults seems to be off the table)

In Canada’s youth courts, defendants have the right to counsel. Defendants found guilty of an offense are liable to a youth sentence if the judge finds that all the alternatives allowed for by the Youth Criminal Justice Act are inappropriate. Judges must consider pre-sentence reports. The maximum sentence a juvenile under the age of eighteen can receive for one crime is two years and the maximum sentence for multiple crimes is three years.[54] However, for first degree murder, a juvenile can be sentenced to up to ten years in custody, and for second degree murder, he or she may be sentenced to up to seven years in custody.[55] Also, for certain violent offenses, a youth can be sentenced to an adult sentence of more than two years in custody if the judge in the case finds that a youth sentence would not be sufficient to hold a young person accountable for his or her behavior.[56] The Youth Criminal Justice Act contains protections for the privacy of young persons. Section 110 of the Act generally prohibits the publication of the names of young persons or information respecting them, except where they have been convicted of certain very serious offenses or have been given an adult sentence.[57] Exceptions are allowed to identify young persons who may be a danger to others or for the purpose of apprehending a young person.[58]

it seems if they release the info anon will kill any chance of justice for this girl as if they are outed their rights will have been violated(again not defending them just stating what the law is in Canada) and it also seems that the most they could get is 1-3 years even if convicted...the laws are waaay different in Canada then the USA and i had no idea the differences were this vast

reply to post by sonnny1

Innocent until PROVEN Guilty. Fine line to play with someones life.

there is a group of them known as "the rape squad" in the school. everyone, including the police, ignored the case until anonymous obtained the evidence and posted it online.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


If this is true - she wasn't their first victim - and she won't be their last.

I'm not fully serious - but branding these kind of people with a tatto on their forward would be justice.

I am a rapist - in large black letters.

reply to post by Happy1


i think the group calling them selves the "rape squad" were the stubenville rape people not the Canadian ones but i could be wrong( i hope their are not two groups of kids calling themselves rape squads)

reply to post by RalagaNarHallas

oh silly me getting threads mixed up. it's sad that this happens often enough for one to confuse the incidents :/

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


yeah im with you on that i contacted huffpost Canada and instagram and asked them to take down the photos that were posted in the comments section and reported it as child pornography i just hope they do something about it as people are trying to shame a dead girl by parading a bunch of photos that have no place even existing let alone on the internet i thought i had lost all faith in humanity allready.....


then i found this and lost what little i had left

en.wikipedia.org...

The current minimum penalty for possession of, or "accessing," child pornography is fourteen days imprisonment

and while i guess the maximum sentence is 20 years even seeing a minimum sentence of 14 days makes me wanna cry.......

Christ, you should see her twitter account.
I dont know...I am thinking Slut. seriously. she has posted pictures of herself naked with drugs and drug paraphernalia on her. Tattooed all over and many...Interesting photos.

-There is FAR more to this than rape. If she was raped last year, teased and bullied and so "ashamed" abut pictures showing her having sex (not drugged and passed out as that would have been pointed out like in the Ohio case) BUT THEN posts pictures like that on her own twitter account?

-# like this hurts real rape victims- And to charge a 16 year old boy for "child porn" because he has a picture of a 16 year old girl is INSANE. So if a girl gives away a pic to her boyfriend is she "distributing child porn" (a life sentence essentially?) or what if she keeps nudes for herself, still a crime? This is ridiculous.
EDIT: I want to know where her parents were at- She is 16 and tattooed heavier than my 40 year old Biker friends and (evidently) does more drugs than the whole bike club combined. I just flipped through the whole twitter account and am in awe...
-But certainly SHE is a Victim here- Raped and bullied until she had no choice but to kill herself (but the pictures she posts seems like she has quite a few friends to party with)- And evidently she has enough supervision and just somehow was kidnapped and dragged to this party...


EDIT 2: Okay, read enough tweets to make my mind up- Parents are trying to place blame anywhere BUT where it belongs- At home. Media runs with it because cyberbully law agenda is in full swing (and this fits the agenda)- This girl brags on twitter about such wonderful things as doing coc aine, Acid, Pot, etc...Going to parties all the time, drinking until passing out , etc...etc...etc... (tweets with pics to go along with the tales)- Is tattooed like a biker, pierced all over, smokes cigarettes, wears clothing with cannabis leaves all over them and...and...NOT the sweet inn ocent picture the media gives us. AND SHE IS !^ YEARS OLD.

A tweet on march 17th says she is "eating pain pills"- AND "Doing coc aine" to "make the pain go away"- Now. Where were mom and dad? DID THEY NOT SEE THE TATTOOS, DRUG CLOTHING, TWEETS, HER BEING GONE MOST WEEKENDS, ETC...AT 16 years old? She was a party girl already, and there is no way they could NOT have known this and evidently didnt care.

-This is media spin and probably all BS and now some boys are going to (possibly) be charged when I am sure as hell she was willing (and they were ALL minors) and had zero supervision or discipline.

-This makes me angry and sick.

The justice system is a joke. even if they get charged and found guilty they would get 3-4 years in juvenile detention like the Steubenville case but someone will get 5-10yrs for marijuana possession.

Anon should first dig into their text msgs, social media and remotely get into their hard drives to find some proof. If they do then Release everything including their name,address, SS numbers(if they have that in Canada). I believe in Vigilante justice if the legal system fails. 4yrs for raping a teen girl is not justice unless they are getting raped by bubba everyday for those 4 years then that is justice.

And maybe if Anon does release their info and someone does find them and do some backwoods justice maybe it will be a deterant to others who think they can get away with this.

Just my opinion. If it was up to me I would give the death penalty for rape

reply to post by DarKPenguiN

-This makes me angry and sick.

What makes me angry and sick is people assuming they know what happened. Maybe you don't interact with a lot of teenage girls. A hell of a lot of them dress and act just like she does.

And lets get something clear.

Doing drugs, smoking, having tattoos, and being an airhead idiot teenager do not excuse rape, if it happened. You don't know it didn't. You assume it didn't because the girl acts and dresses slutty.

Guess what, even a damn hooker can be raped, ok?

I don't know if this is a legit rape case or not, only a handful of people do. But seriously stop and read the crap you puked up there, you are essentially saying there is no way it wasn't a consensual gang bang because she's slutty.