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Cho, Loughner, Holmes passes background checks. Failure to enforce.

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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 04:36 AM
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So what do they want now? They want to close the gun show loophole for one. The gun grabbers have had their eye on the gun shows for many years now and not for public saftey reasons. Dont be fooled. Besides none of these politically usefull cases have anything to do with gun shows. And understand, if they could they would love to pin the tail on the gun shows. Instead, for political reasons, the fed will cover its failure and act in denial of the fact that these killers bought their weapons in the system and fell through the cracks of typical government ineptitude.

What we have here is a federal failure to enforce the laws in place to weed out the mentaly ill from buying guns.


The Gun Control Act of 1968, approved by Congress in the wake of the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, barred sale of guns to anyone adjudicated as mentally ill. The Brady Act of 1993 embedded the mental illness disqualification into the newly established background check system for anyone purchasing a new firearm.


Yes this had been on the books since 1968. But even with renewed efforts the system failed. Could this be grounds for a law suit against the states involved and the federal government for poor enforcement? Sounds like it. Whats their answer?Typical and further inept actions by elected representatives, further restriction on law abiding citizens,and poor representation and protection of the Bill of Rights of by representatives.


report last summer concluded that although state mental health record submissions to NICS had gone up 800 percent between 2004 and 2011, the increase was attributable to just 12 states that had contributed more than 10,000 records each. California submitted the most, 279,589.


Check out that neet little figure by the way. It says alot. 279,586 submissions of state mental health records by California alone! Sounds like an industry!

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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 05:39 AM
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Obama has these parents out in DC of late. I wonder if he will apologize to them for not doing more on the mental health parts of gun laws after the several recent mad man shootings before Sandy Hook? Instead hes got them all tooled up to go after the rights of law abiding citizens and those bad bad gun lovers out there that made all this possible.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 06:44 AM
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There was no failure to enforce. The disqualifier is an adjudication of mental illness. None of the gunmen listed had been adjudicated, so your title is a lie.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by F4guy
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There was no failure to enforce. The disqualifier is an adjudication of mental illness. None of the gunmen listed had been adjudicated, so your title is a lie.



I believe his article, because I've read that states don't even report on their mental health cases accurately. I've argued this fact probably over a hundred times by now.


The mentally ill can still buy guns with alarming ease because nearly 90% of U.S. states don’t forward all mental health records to a national database that is used to run background checks on piece purchasers.

It showed that 23 states submitted fewer than 100 mental health histories to the National Instant Criminal Background Check. The database has blocked more than 1.6 million gun-permit applications and sales to felons since it was created in 1999.

So even though a judge had found Virginia Tech shooter Seung Hui Cho to be mentally ill two years before his 2007 rampage, that information never made it into the database, the report shows.

Cho was able to pass several background checks to buy the guns he used to kill 32 people and then end his life.


So like I said before, just because they do background checks, doesn't mean it's going to stop a criminal or mentally ill person from getting a firearm.

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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by F4guy
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There was no failure to enforce. The disqualifier is an adjudication of mental illness. None of the gunmen listed had been adjudicated, so your title is a lie.



Yea your right they were totally sane.





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