Roddenberry, Trek, and "The Nine"

Originally posted by WhoKnows100
The "Great Work" of the mysteries, particularly Freemasonry, represents social engineering (socialism) working toward the apotheosis of the race. This social engineering is done through predictive programming which is a form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to indoctrinate the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by the global elite. If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with and accepting of them; they will seem as ‘natural progressions’, thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion.

If we understand that the serpent religions are all variants of pantheism - God in all/all is God - then we can identify Gene Roddenberry as a formative social engineer.

"As nearly as I can concentrate on the question today, I believe I am God; certainly you are, I think we intelligent beings on this planet are all a piece of God, are becoming God." Interview with Gene Roddenberry in "Star Trek Creator" by David Alexander, Roc, an imprint of Dutton Signet a division of Penguin Books New York, page 568, par 1

All of the Masonic and Kabalah imagery in the Star Trek movies was nothing more than mass conditioning of the world's populace. The theme of "galactic federation" is no different than Freemasonic "brotherhood of man", the united nations drive to eliminate national borders and to replace them with regional governments. Through tv and film, speaking images have been their method of imparting their anti-God doctrines into the minds of the west. God is now viewed as a "force", a spark of divinity everywhere including in man. We in the western world sit and listen to their esoteric beliefs every single day when we ingest what they feed us - speaking images. Our Creator warned us to stay away from images, but we threw that advice away along time ago. We closed the Bible and opened our minds and hearts up to the spoken images of the Kaballah. We are those crowds in Judea, converts made twice the children of hell through false teachings and the doctrines of men.

Today, the converts are the ones calling for and supporting the removal of Jesus Christ from every facet of their lives and are unknowingly demanding the release of Barabbas. Why? We are reasoning with minds filled with the doctrines of men.

But turning and seeing his disciples, he rebuked Peter and said, “Get behind me, Satan! For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.”

Most yearn for a dream world given to them by these occultists, a united planet earth which can travel among the stars. Gene Roddenberry is yet another false prophet and false teacher that destroyed so many. He destroyed them through his very effective preaching. The media is the single largest and most influential PULPIT in the world. Unfortunately, it preaches everything adversarial to Our Creator. Those adversarial (satanic) teachings then seep into our minds and we use them to form our new beliefs by which we reason. Most will believe them instead of Our Creator, never understanding how the serpent recruited them into his armies which are today fighting Jesus Christ.

The world wants man glorified by man. The world wants man as god. Unfortunately, this is the mystery of iniquity rising at an alarming rate as the religions of the world quietly come together in oneness - particularly under mysticism - the altering of concioisness which produces visions and experiences by which these 'channeled entities' communicate to and through them. And many of the world leaders all have been pulled into it - seduced by their rhetoric. All occult writings for centuries have talked about this council of illuminated ones, and as this is the strong delusion allowed by Our Creator, we all must make a choice as to who to believe. Those who trip their minds and see hallucinations or Our Creator. Men like Roddenberry who placed these channeled writings into speaking images promoting a glorious future of united mankind, or your Creator whose words show that man will unite once again in a fight against His Christ, the very Saviour of mankind.

who is really the deceived here? how are you so sure that the scriptures you hold so dear have been truthfully informed? how do you know they have not been tampered with and altered by the hand of man? for someone who claims not to know, you seem awfully assured in the decidedly human dogma you espouse on every single thread that doesn't masturbate to jesus.

kindly stfu.

Fantastic Post.

Thank you.

I remember some years ago now reading the transcripts from the sessions with "The Nine".

Great thread.

In terms of technology, well the pads that people read off in Star Trek: The Next Generation and later are identical to Kindles or other E-readers of today.

In fact in an episode of Deep Space Nine O' Brien reads a story to his child off one.

As for this mysterious Council of Nine well (I might be clutching at straws here) but there is obviously Deep Space Nine and the main character Captain Benjamin Sisko is known as the "Emissary" by a nearby race who see him as a religious icon.

There is also Seven of Nine in Star Trek Voyager.

Originally posted by alldaylong

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
I'm a Trek fan. I have been since I could walk and talk. I'll be at the midnight showing of the next movie! I used to have a uniform in my closet and some Vulcan ears laying around ...

Concerning Gene's ability to "predict" future technology:

I think it works the other way around. I think Gene was creative and came up with awesome technological devices, and as kids people watched in wonder. Star Trek inspired people to become astronauts and scientists, and when they were grown up -- they saw to it to make Gene's vision reality.

Look at our iPads ... PADD anyone? Someone, somewhere obviously watched Star Trek and saw to it that we could have the cool tablets like on ST:TNG

Another interesting connection would be Stargate. Has anyone noticed something coincidental about the symbol/chevron for Earth?

It has the same triangle/arrow shape...

I have a feeling that there really is somthing connecting all of this stuff behind the scenes.

The vision of the I Pad was more down to another great visionary Sir Arthur C Clarke (2001 A Space Odyssey etc ) as shown here:-

www.brainpickings.org...

The things he predicted way back in the 1940's are common place today. One example being the communication satelite.

I forgot to add that Arthur C Clarke used "The Nine" in one of his book titles

en.wikipedia.org...

Wow...S&F

One of the best put together threads I have read in a long time. Well done.

I too have been a long time fan of Mr. Roddenberry. I remember watching the early shows with my Dad and then Generations later as an adult. have always loved it. I'm still waiting for the darn holodeck though!

Seriously though, you present some very curious things. I just finished watching the galactica series (again) and so ofcourse the first thing I thought of were the numbered cyclons. "the nine"....this theme seems to pop up in a lot of sci fi culture, and I wonder if it is just a matter of copying or something deeper?

Hmmm.....

Originally posted by Kram09
Great thread.

In terms of technology, well the pads that people read off in Star Trek: The Next Generation and later are identical to Kindles or other E-readers of today.

In fact in an episode of Deep Space Nine O' Brien reads a story to his child off one.

As for this mysterious Council of Nine well (I might be clutching at straws here) but there is obviously Deep Space Nine and the main character Captain Benjamin Sisko is known as the "Emissary" by a nearby race who see him as a religious icon.

There is also Seven of Nine in Star Trek Voyager.

Sorry but Arthur C Clarke came up with that idea first:-

www.brainpickings.org...

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Wow! Nice thread, very interesting. S&F!

I understand that Gene was also a Freemason, not that that means anything, necessarily.

Awesome post dude, I read it all from start to finish. I will be checking out some of those links you posted, in particular the Star Trek Conspiracies.

I have always considered myself a Star Trek fan, but you have shown me the error of my ways.

MAY YOU LIVE LONG AND PROSPER.

i'm of the opinion that any story written today, has in some way a connection to historical storytelling that involve emotions and feelings. the only type of life forms that I think would survive in the universe would be the ones devoid of emotions....the "borg" collective, or the "alien" creature comes to mind. and in our own world, the ant and the cockroach is, the pure clean life or death evolution of living creature sustainability.

9 is a good number in telling stories about a group, its enough to have some sort of diversity but close enough to still be a group and if you look at most stories they try and keep the story at any one point down to a certain number of characters as its like in star trek etc some episodes don't have some of the main characters in them to allow other characters to shine

Originally posted by WhoKnows100
The world wants man glorified by man. The world wants man as god. Unfortunately, this is the mystery of iniquity rising at an alarming rate as the religions of the world quietly come together in oneness - particularly under mysticism - the altering of concioisness which produces visions and experiences by which these 'channeled entities' communicate to and through them. And many of the world leaders all have been pulled into it - seduced by their rhetoric. All occult writings for centuries have talked about this council of illuminated ones, and as this is the strong delusion allowed by Our Creator, we all must make a choice as to who to believe. Those who trip their minds and see hallucinations or Our Creator. Men like Roddenberry who placed these channeled writings into speaking images promoting a glorious future of united mankind, or your Creator whose words show that man will unite once again in a fight against His Christ, the very Saviour of mankind.

You have just summarised, almost perfectly, the discomfiture that I experienced reading The Only Planet of Choice. Much of the social conditioning that you discuss I do not necessarily view as entirely negative, there is some element of necessity given human nature, en masse, but particularly, with OPoC, I was left with an uneasiness based on it's clear bias towards standard Judeo-Christian belief. It is many years since I read it so I struggle to be more specific than that, other than that it felt 'tailored' as a transitional tool for those specific belief systems. As I say, I think that such conditioning has it's place, though I draw a line at the ends justifying the means, but this appeared less a preparation for change, as an excuse for further inaction.

Either way, I appreciated your comments.

And very fine OP, OP

Originally posted by WhoKnows100
Those whom the occult channel in their shamanistic practices all preach the same message. This message has been imbedded within the science fiction field, weaving it's elaborate web of lies for a few centuries - its pagan belief that man will evolve to become god. Is it any wonder that consciousness altering techniques, which provide the same 'hidden knowledge', are flooding into our schools including primary schools, healthcare, psychiatry and corporate training departments under yoga and eastern meditation? The vacuum left by removing Jesus Christ is, as quoted above, simply replaced by occultism. Our society, thoroughly indoctrinated by science fiction fantasies, predictably programmed over the past decades to already believe occultist dogma, are now coming to believe that that dogma is true - never understanding how predictive programming works. Lying signs and wonders merely confirms the lies as truth. Our science falsely called is merely occultism disguised in scientific sounding terms. Our society reflects where we are going - psychic hotlines, speaking with the dead, ghost hunting shows, hedonistic tv exhalting sex, wealth and pleasure, popularity of werewolves and vampires, mystical visions, drug induced trips, aliens instead of fairies and leprechauns....we are merely reverting to the Middle Ages of superstition ruled by the occult.

I can honestly say I cannot understand self subjugation. It is more apparent to me today than even that my species has no future (I may be overly pessimistic due to long winder (still snowing here) or some cat-delivered--mental-virus)). Every time we become more conscious, take more informed decisions, see the Universe for it really is, we get someone that tries to get us back to the times where everything was explained by "Our Creator".

My country has been indoctrinated by this kind of thinking for almost 1500 years and it's been downhill since then. We've seen predictive programming since then. My people's back is broken. The country let go after 3 big pagan insurrections and haven't stood up since then. Even the X-tian documents documenting the 3 first failed x-tian actions show a better picture of my country than 300 years after that.

Our society reflects the unnatural order that has been imposed on them. The unnatural Christian order is driving our collective asses mad.

I see Star Trek as an almost-too-late medicine and I'm not at all surprised that the "order" is fighting back.

P.S.
Sorry for the rant. The older I am the less bull*** I can take. Fell free to delete that post if the mods fell like it.

Roddenberry was systematically singled out by the people (Andrija Puharich, amongst others) that were running the whole 'Nine' circus. Phyllis Schlemmer was the gateway person set up to make sure that Roddenberry was introduced to 'The Nine'. Prior to meeting with Roddenberry, Schlemmer thought that 'Tom' was the spirit of her dead father; but, suddenly with Roddenberry on the scene, 'Tom' became a 'spokesperson' for 'The Nine'.

They were attempting to coerce Rodenberry; I don't think that it worked. If you read the exchange given in Schlemmer's stupid book, you can almost hear Roddenberry's skepticism dripping off the page. he was being polite, at best.

So, Roddenberry is in the clear, as far as I am concerned; but not Puharich and Schlemmer, Puharich had rich connections to the military-industrial-occult complex.

And finally, you all need to be clear on the fact that 'The Nine' are not a group of people; The Nine is a group of supposedly dis-incarnate, channeled entities, that identify themselves with ancient Egyptian gods.

Also remember, I don't write this stuff; I'm just reporting in.

OP, you are standing on 'the threshold', why don't you just jump through? Don't worry, it just goes in the same old circles and will ultimately bring you back to ATS, as it should.

Awesome thread dude! He was a man ahead of his time for sure.
Here is a little clip of the TNG cast talking about meeting Gene for the first time. They are all funny beautiful people!

In DS9, the bridge crew is a fairly blatant pantomime of religious structure. It is given to illustrate the various ways that the conscious ego-self (Sisko) interacts with aspects of Divine unity. Sisko has a different psychological posture toward each aspect.

For example, there is the aspect of Divinity that the wormhole aliens represent. Then there is the aspect that Dax represents. And the aspect that Odo and his shape-shifting people represents. And there is his Mother. And then there is that which Dukat represents. Dukat is a sort of anti-Sisko or shadow-self.

And then there are the orbs.

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Fantastic compilation OP. I just wish more ats members would take notice and be as creative an authentic as you.

Seems like he was a fascinating human being.

Have you seen the documentary his son did on him. I think it was called trek nation.

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I am an avid trekky and Andromeda fan - thank you, I loved your op, [S and F]

Great thread ... regarding ur reference to "the nine", i have a link in my footer that has a very unrecognized post i made which has a free link to d load the book by Phyllis S that he is referring to.. sorry to ride off your post but would ask anyone regardless of beliefs to read the attached book off my thread.. sent my life in a new direction, very thought provoking and if it can change my life im sure it could someone elses.

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Thanks for the compliment. I look forward to checking out these Emerald Tablets. I've heard them referenced once or twice on ATS, but never have been introduced to them.

Thanks for giving us something else to explore

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gotta love trekkies