Tepco: “Losing faith” in leaking Fukushima tanks!

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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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Bravo!

This is the most concise and complete summary of the situation I've seen in a single post in quite some time!

The technique of corium quenching combined with the shattered basements of the reactor buildings means unknown amounts of highly contaminated water have been flushing into the Pacific for years. Those micron size particles are taken up by plankton etc and passed on up through the process of bioaccumulation.

It's sickening to think what this is doing on top of all of the other damage we are doing to our ecosystem; the Gulf Oil Pill, the Bayour Corne Sinkhole, the burst tar sands pipeline in Arkansas, the trash pile that has accumulated at the Pacific Gyre just to name a few.

The people who are running the show aren't doing a very good job and something needs to change.

Many somethings, in point of fact!

 


By the way, the plastic lining they're using is about the same thickness as kitchen trash bags and they're surprised leaks have occurred?

Typical Turdco response to something anyone here could easily foresee...
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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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Right on



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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Ok so my question about this would be either (depending on my mood) what would be less worse? Dumping it in the ocean or stall it on land unprotected as in not under normal used circumstances? On a bright sight i would just ask what is better.

I mean the ocean is a whole liquid ocean and it would spread to every where. On land we could contaminate it to a size of a province, state, region, country. Or do we sit and wait for the moment "Ohw now we have no control anymore, lets see what happens" (obviously 'control' in the most broadesr sense of the word.)

Doesn't Japan have sinkholes? (Sarcasm implied)



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by MariaLida
NOAA maps and animation, probably today they will update new image ..

www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

www.ncdc.noaa.gov...





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Important when trying to understand the implications of oceanic contamination.
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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy

Originally posted by MariaLida

Originally posted by all2human
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Translation: lets face it,unless we can pull a rabbit from a hat,that waters going into the ocean..
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It's just getting worse and worse ..

Tepco is release all that info so situation is probably very dangerous and alarming ..

It's extremely big amount of very high radiation-contaminated water, with every day amount is bigger and bigger ..

Anyway what they will do with all that high radiation-contaminated water, lo0l ..
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the real bummer about this is,. no one cares,./
our oceans are being polluted,. earths air is contaminated.. life seems like a downward spiral
and no one cares
dont worry the aliens are due to reset mankind again im sure
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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 02:53 PM
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Amen, the whole international community should have been involved from the start, with governments all over trying to come up with solutions and or sending in resources and help when needed.

What a giant f up.........



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 04:45 PM
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I would like to know why on earth they cannot figure out how to transport this crap to another facility and use it up and keep it cooled off. It's not un-do-able by any means.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by j2000
I would like to know why on earth they cannot figure out how to transport this crap to another facility and use it up and keep it cooled off. It's not un-do-able by any means.


You pose a good question, and it's important for people to know the answer to this issue. Sadly, there is no simple solution for this disaster. It all boils down to the insane levels of radiation one would experience just trying to get to the molten cores. When dealing with this level of exposure, we're no longer looking at Sieverts, we're in the Gray (Gy) territory. I'm "old school" and still think in terms of Rad's rather than the new Sieverts. For our purposes here today, 30 Gy = 3000 Rad.

Say for instance, you wanted to throw caution to the wind, and you wanted to walk right into Reactor Building #1. After all, you can clearly see the door, and it's not like it's melting or anything. Here's what you have to look forward to:

By the time you took your thirtieth step inside the facility, you'd begin vomiting. This wouldn't stop either. You'd experience the worst headache of your life, the kind that brings you to your knees. You wouldn't be able to move anymore within four minutes. It's about that time when you'd notice your bowels starting to tremble. Within the first half-hour or so, you'd suffer the worst case of diarrhea you've ever experienced (all the while still vomiting or dry heaving with a killer headache). You'd suffer a fever as well, as your brain sends your body into over drive trying to save itself. It'd be far too late for that though, because it'd be about that time when you'd start suffering uncontrollable seizures.

If, by some miracle, people were to pull you out of the structure, by a rope or something, you'd get to continue experiencing that no-stop for around a day or so. You're not done with the pain yet though. Your whole body has been exposed to insane levels of radiation. Your skin turns lobster red in around an hour, followed by blistering and ulceration.

Radiation breaks down electronics, and even brings robots to a grinding halt. We couldn't stay way back and have robots do the work for us. It's going to take a very long time before we're able to get close enough to even scope out the bottoms of the dry wells to see how big a breach there was, or whether the toruses were able to contain the molten cores. It's my personal opinion that the cores are beneath the toruses in the soil. They are insanely toxic and water coming in contact with them leaches through to the water table and into the Pacific.

There's also discussion by some of the benefits of dilution in the Pacific. While this is true, one must remember that bioaccumulation is always occurring and will only get worse as more and more material makes its way to the ocean. You have to remember that this process has been ongoing now for over two years. Just think about that, and let it sink in. Knowing that every minute of every day more toxic radioactive material is purged into the ocean and there's not a thing any of us can do about it, isn't conducive to quality of life.

The general rule with radiation is that three things determine your exposure: Time, Distance, and Shielding. With this stuff getting into the ocean, the time one is exposed goes up with the time people spend on the beach, or on the water. Distance becomes important when you consider how much seafood people eat. Where might a lot of that stuff come from? The Bering Sea. Think about that for a minute before you choose to eat seafood. Ingesting radioactive material leads to the possibility of it being permanently taken into your body. Most of it exits through your bowels normally, but not all of it. The more you eat of it, the more it's likely to stay inside you and cook you from the inside out. Shielding only helps if you know where the source is. If it's particles around you or in your food, shielding won't help. Your skin will stop Alpha. A sheet of thick paper will stop Beta. Two feet of concrete will slow down Gamma.

In conclusion, it would be awesome if we could go in, scoop this stuff up, put it into lead casks and bury the casks in salt mines forever. That simply won't happen. It's simply too lethal to even approach, let alone clean it up. We get to start thinking to the teratogenic effects we're going to start seeing. We get to start thinking of the rise in leukemia and heart attacks. This is truly the nightmare that keeps on giving.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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What about the Spent Fuel Rods laying in open pools? Much more dangerous than a core melt down from what i gather since the core is encased in concrete. Each spent rod has the potential of a nuclear blast if exposed to air & what do they have 50/100/200 spent rods.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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Do you suppose the people that build nuclear power plants knew if this happened there is nothing could be done??

I just read an artical where Stephen Hawking said if man does not find a way of the planet we will not survive........it did not hit me tell I read this post what he was talking about.

A species "US" builds something that puts out a waste that has a million+ year half life and we have no way to store it. WOW, I knew as a species we were purity much defective, but this is suicidal while at the same time taking everyone with you.

If we shut down every nuclear power plant in the world, how long would it take for the waste to leak and kill the world...............I mean we should be thinking about this, we have created this horror, we at least ought to know how long we have..........don't ya think?
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posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Battleline
Do you suppose the people that build nuclear power plants knew if this happened there is nothing could be done??

I just read an artical where Stephen Hawking said if man does not find a way of the planet we will not survive........it did not hit me tell I read this post what he was talking about.

A species "US" builds something that puts out a waste that has a million+ year half life and we have no way to store it. WOW, I knew as a species we were purity much defective, but this is suicidal while at the same time taking everyone with you.

If we shut down every nuclear power plant in the world, how long would it take for the waste to leak and kill the world...............I mean we should be thinking about this, we have created this horror, we at least ought to know how long we have..........don't ya think?
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One of the gentleman who worked on Fukashima quit because the design was a disaster waiting to happen. He voiced his concerns, it was built anyway. Make of that what you will....



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 09:15 PM
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I feel for the hypochondriac minded. Every little symptom I have now makes me wonder if it is radioactivity causing a cough or a sore throat or a heart skipping a beat. I have been saying for a while now that there are only 3 possible solutions to our governance crisis; 1. The elite start acting right. 2. Revolution. 3. Alien invasion. Sadly, to me, number 3 is the most likely. Sad that TPTB are so addicted to power that they would rather the whole world go kaput than give up a smidgen of control. A REAL democracy would give everyone equal economic and political power and punish anyone involved in these rotten backroom deals and, most likely, make the planet a healthier place even for the princes and princesses of power.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by crankyoldman

Originally posted by Battleline
Do you suppose the people that build nuclear power plants knew if this happened there is nothing could be done??

I just read an artical where Stephen Hawking said if man does not find a way of the planet we will not survive........it did not hit me tell I read this post what he was talking about.

A species "US" builds something that puts out a waste that has a million+ year half life and we have no way to store it. WOW, I knew as a species we were purity much defective, but this is suicidal while at the same time taking everyone with you.

If we shut down every nuclear power plant in the world, how long would it take for the waste to leak and kill the world...............I mean we should be thinking about this, we have created this horror, we at least ought to know how long we have..........don't ya think?
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One of the gentleman who worked on Fukashima quit because the design was a disaster waiting to happen. He voiced his concerns, it was built anyway. Make of that what you will....


And in fact you would not find that to be a rare occurrence amongst quality and quantrol weld inspection people, and others, in many others that were built, too......



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by Panic2k11
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The default solution to pollution has always been dilution.


Yeah - but that's always been naive. The 'dilutants' are now all polluted to the 'nines'. The Ocean's can't really take anything more - plastic gyres, sewage, chemical run-off from chemical fertilizers/pesticides/herbicides, oil, mining waste and heaven knows what else... When the 'Conveyer Belt' Current goes - it's game over for the planet. The Ocean (and the Sun) are the basis of all life - Kill it and We're Dead.

I spoke with a very dear friend who teaches science - general science - nothing special - she likes to teach and is smart - brilliant in fact about this on the way to a concert. I told her my worries are the world's oceans - the warming, decrease in salinity, polluction, etc and she said that 'The Angels' wouldn't let it happen. She didn't mean Angels in the classical Christian sense but non-corporareal beings more advanced then we - so maybe guardian angel is the correct term. Either way, we'd better pray for intersession non-stop.



posted on Apr, 10 2013 @ 10:12 PM
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Great idea, while we are it why don't have the UN Human Rights commission look into abuses in Syria. Let's see, who is on the rotating UNHRC this year? Last I recall it was Iran, North Korea, and Saudia Arabia. That will surely end AnY abuses of human rights in Syria.

End sarcasm.

Get real. Any progressive ideological beliefs like the UN, communism, socialism, are
THE WRONG ANSWER FOR ANYTHING THAT IN ANY WAY RESEMBLES REAL PROGRESS.

Ironic huh?

Progressives must be hipsters knowing that what they saying is actually the opposite of what they mean. ie progressive =regressive.

Understand now or was that too clear forya?

Jeeeesh!
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 02:16 AM
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Fukushima is one giant uncontrolled open nuclear reaction.

The effects are already beginning to show in the Western Hemisphere, small signs.

Small signs that few have noticed but they're there if you look, they just haven't been attributed to Fukushima, yet.


MR



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 05:41 AM
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Nice now just mix Nuclear Transmutation into that and you've got it. Also could anything you mentioned be causing this?

Study links coho salmon deaths to stormwater runoff from Washington highways



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 08:17 AM
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Fukushima plant unstable says official, concern another accident can’t be prevented — “Vulnerable… Very dangerous”

Published: April 10, 2013


“The Fukushima Daiichi plant remains in an unstable condition, and there is concern that we cannot prevent another accident,” Shunichi Tanaka, chairman of the Nuclear Regulation Authority, said at a news conference. “We have instructed Tepco to work on reducing some of the biggest risks, and we as regulators will step up monitoring.”

The biggest scare at the plant in recent days has been the discovery that at least three of seven underground storage pools are seeping thousands of gallons of radioactive water into the soil. On Wednesday, Tepco acknowledged that the lack of adequate storage space for contaminated water had become a “crisis,” and said it would begin emptying the pools. But the company said that the leaks will continue over the several weeks that it will likely take to transfer the water to other containers.

“No wonder the water is leaking,” said Hideo Komine, a professor in civil engineering at Ibaraki University, just south of Fukushima. He said that the outer protective lining should have been hundreds of times thicker.

“That creates an incentive to cut corners, which is very dangerous,” he said. “The government needs to step in, take charge and assemble experts and technology from around the world to handle the decommissioning instead.”


www.nytimes.com...


[Can't stop leaking] 6.4 billion Bq leaked from the pump on transferring to the safer reservoir

[Hidden leakage ?] The “Safe” reservoir No.6 lost 13 m3 of contaminated water within an hour
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posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 08:24 AM
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I am supprised that only one had a problem with these plants, I am supprised we don't hear more now that this is all coming out about other plants built by this company.

If there is an up side to this horror, it is that the people that filled there pockets with this death trap have killed themselves.........................unless they have a way off the planet.



posted on Apr, 11 2013 @ 08:41 AM
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There's a 4th most important option : Get ready to meet our Creator, for Jesus is coming Soon. Repent everyone and embrace him, the end times are more then near, & nothing would point it clearly out then what is happening right now. Aliens are not gonna come, aliens do not exists(these are demonic entities that people are channeling, thinking they're Aliens). & if Aliens do come, it's gonna be a play by the government, it's not gonna be real, it's gonna be a great deception. Also there's a high probability that Satan will come and delude many that he's the Christ, & many will be deluded and will follow him. Not to mention, that soon enough, one day, Rome/Vatican is gonna fall, and not even a brick will be kept on top of the other. & last, the elite can do nothing about it, they were the first cause that caused all of this problem, they know they can't do nothing about it, but only trying to conceal it and say everything might be fine, but we all know that nothing's gonna be fine. Seek God, embrace the teachings of Jesus. It's more then obvious that things are gonna get much worse in the upcoming months/years..& no one can do anything about it. Not the Elite; The revolution will make things worse; & the Aliens are gonna be a worse deception then the sayings of the government about fukushima(that everything is gonna be alright). There's one truth that will save each and everyone of you, and that is to reconcile with your creator, through Jesus Christ. God Bless everybody. Think fast, & act faster. If anyone wants the help on how to really know God for whom he really is, and not how this society and bad examples/religions have made him, please let me know. I'll be more then glad to help. He will change your lives like he changed mine 9 months ago. Take good care everyone





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