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Originally posted by sonnny1
I expect more then from a Vice President though. Maybe something less childish? Its all very childish coming from this mans mouth. Its embarrassing actually.
Originally posted by WaterBottle
Well the title of this thread made me laugh.
Joe is a funny guy.edit on 9-4-2013 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by sonnny1
I expect more then from a Vice President though. Maybe something less childish? Its all very childish coming from this mans mouth. Its embarrassing actually.
I agree with you there. That said, I think I'd rather have someone who spoke their mind, than someone who was always politically correct. He definitely goes too far sometimes.
Originally posted by neo96
“Kinda scary man, the black helicopter crowd is really upset,” Biden said, criticizing the National Rifle Association for promoting a “misinformation campaign” on background checks.
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by NOTurTypical
To each their own.
Guns don't lie politicians do.
Amen
Politicians use soldiers to fight wars, and soldiers use guns to fight wars.
Not trying to make a point here, just saying.
Family members of victims from the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut will fly back to Washington Monday night with President Obama.
According to the White House, 11 Newtown family members will fly to Washington on Air Force One so they can press for gun laws being debated this week by the Senate.
The White House said they arranged the flight plans so the Connecticut families could attend the president’s speech on guns Monday evening in Hartford.
The move is part of a week-long effort by administration officials to regain momentum for new gun restrictions. Vice President Biden will host another event on guns at the White House on Tuesday and first lady Michelle Obama will travel to Chicago to talk about firearms on Wednesday. And Biden will be part of a roundtable discussion on guns Thursday, which will air on MSNBC.
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by NOTurTypical
To each their own.
Guns don't lie politicians do.
Amen
Politicians use soldiers to fight wars, and soldiers use guns to fight wars.
Not trying to make a point here, just saying.
Originally posted by Ghost375
Biden insisted that there would be no central registry for background checks allowing government to keep records on gun owners.
This means that the background check system wouldn't record each gun owner. So he's saying it wouldn't give the government a list of all gun owners.
How about you PROVE that the background check system being proposed would keep tabs on all gun owners??
Instead of making this stupid thread? I call it stupid because it's emotional outrage, not anything that even tries to find out the facts.
“No way that Uncle Sam can go find out whether you own a gun because we’re about to really take away all your rights and you’re not going to be able to defend yourself and we’re going to swoop down with Special Forces folks and gather up every gun in America,” Biden added mockingly. “It’s bizarre. But that’s what’s being sold out there.”
en.wikipedia.org...
A Firearms Transaction Record, or Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person purchases a firearm from Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun shop).
The Form 4473 contains name, address, date of birth, government-issued photo ID, National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check transaction number, make/model/serial number of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied by the NICS, although prosecutions are rare in the absence of another felony committed with the gun purchased.
The dealer also records all information from the Form 4473 into their "bound-book". A dealer must keep this on file at least 20 years and is required to surrender the log to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to inspect, as well as request a copy of the Form 4473 from the dealer during the course of a criminal investigation. In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five-day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4.
If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual who is not a licensed dealer, the purchaser is not required in most states to complete a Form 4473, though some states require individual sellers to sell through dealers.
These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed by the government to private parties or other government officials except in accordance with the Privacy Act. Individual dealers possessing a copy of the form are not subject to the Privacy Act's restrictions on disclosure. Dealers are required to maintain completed forms for 20 years in the case of completed sales and 5 years where the sale was denied by the NICS check coming back disapproved or other disqualifying information.
“No way that Uncle Sam can go find out whether you own a gun because we’re about to really take away all your rights and you’re not going to be able to defend yourself and we’re going to swoop down with Special Forces folks and gather up every gun in America,” Biden added mockingly
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by sonnny1
I expect more then from a Vice President though. Maybe something less childish? Its all very childish coming from this mans mouth. Its embarrassing actually.
I agree with you there. That said, I think I'd rather have someone who spoke their mind, than someone who was always politically correct. He definitely goes too far sometimes.
That's the problem with Joe.
He has NO mind.
Just think, he would be the President if something happened to Obama. Extremely scary thought.