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Originally posted by MacMerdin
Is that directed at me Valhal? If so, I never said I wanted your approval...nor do I need it. I couldn't give two #s about what you approve of or disapprove of.
Now as far as making me a second class citizen in your state, that is when your approval or disapproval has gone too far. I'm not saying you don't have that right, but I also have the same right to try and change this law.
What's next? People who have a mental illness banned from marriage? Mentally retarded? Deaf, blind, sterile? Where are the bannings going to end?
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Originally posted by RedOctober90
They deserve marriage rights.. no reason to discriminate agains them.
I'm not - they would get exactly the same rights given by marriage but their union but be named 'State Union' thus keeping the christian extremeists happy because homosexuls won't be able to marry but homosexuals will have a equal union.
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Originally posted by RedOctober90
They deserve marriage rights.. no reason to discriminate agains them.
I'm not - they would get exactly the same rights given by marriage but their union but be named 'State Union' thus keeping the christian extremeists happy because homosexuls won't be able to marry but homosexuals will have a equal union.
Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by MacMerdin
OOOPS misrepresentation of the law! There have been no bannings...there has been the rejection of using the state marriage license (reads "certification") on same sex marriages. You can get married all you want. You don't get the state's license (certification).
I do not consider anyone a "second class citizen".
ban
n 1: a decree that prohibits something [syn: prohibition, proscription] 2: 100 bani equal 1 leu 3: 100 bani equal 1 leu 4: an official prohibition or edict against something [syn: banning, forbiddance, forbidding] 5: a bachelor's degree in nursing [syn: Bachelor of Arts in Nursing, BAN] v 1: prohibit especially by legal means or social pressure; "Smoking is banned in this building" 2: forbid the public distribution of ( a movie or a newspaper) [syn: censor] 3: ban from a place of residence, as for punishment [syn: banish] 4: expel from a community or group [syn: banish, ostracize, ostracise, shun, cast out, blackball]
Wasn't the thread title "gay marriage banned?" Therefore, I had every right to use the word banned. I live in DC, I don't know the semantics of your backwoods home states laws....sorry. Furthermore....by your definition of rejecting something sounds like a ban on it to me.
Originally posted by MacMerdin
So it is still a ban on same-sex unions being legal in the eyes of the law then, is it not? Either way, it is semantecs on a word.....just like marriage and civil union.
You still didn't answer the question though. Should prisoners who have raped, murdered etc. not be allow to have this state certificate of a union either? Where does this end......once any non desirable can't have a state certificate?
Originally posted by Valhall
What makes you think a state couldn't pass a law that a repeated wife-beater wouldn't be able to obtain a marriage license in the future? Serious, what makes you think they couldn't do that if the majority wanted to?
Originally posted by Kidfinger
How do we have the right to tell someone who they can love and marry? I think its a shame that so many people are so insecure with themselves that they voted yes on this�������
Originally posted by keholmes
Originally posted by Kidfinger
How do we have the right to tell someone who they can love and marry? I think its a shame that so many people are so insecure with themselves that they voted yes on this�������
So kidfinger from your response am I to understand you would support NAMBLA, and or pedophilia?
Originally posted by IBM
Yes im not clear on the issue either. Hopefully their is either a court ruling or a constitutional amendment that will outlaw this activity. Once Bush puts a few judges on the bench it will hopefully happen.
How do we have the right to tell someone who they can love and marry? I think its a shame that so many people are so insecure with themselves that they voted yes on this�������
So kidfinger from your response am I to understand you would support NAMBLA, and or pedophilia?
Man, thats just stupid! You know damn good and well that I ment between 2 concenting adults. Are you a sicko? Why would you even bring up a pedophile?
Red is trying to hide behind the LIE that "noone is being harmed".
It's not even really affecting your life.
Back to devicive name calling as a support tactic? Pathetic.
Your suffering from the usual homophobia.. fear of people you don't even know.
Its very simple, ill try to not use big words here....
Why some people can't get it in their heads that what other people do in the privacy of their own homes is none of their business is beyond me.
Originally posted by CazMedia
KayEm tries to get back into the fray by spewing a fallicy...again,
Why some people can't get it in their heads that what other people do in the privacy of their own homes is none of their business is beyond me.
Its very simple, ill try to not use big words here....
Its because when you leave your private bedroom, and go to the courthouse to demmand the culture gives you a special interest minority group ENTITLEMENT hand out, it becomes a PUBLIC matter. This is NOT the government trying to force its way into your bedroom, its you trying to force your bedroom onto the government/culture at large.
A democratic society has the right to set its boundaries for acceptable/not acceptable behaivior within its jurisdiction. Unless your ready to toss out the democracy and adopt socialism like Red...are you?
I cant get it in my head why people think their private bedroom extends to the courthouse steps.
Originally posted by CazMedia
Its because when you leave your private bedroom, and go to the courthouse to demmand the culture gives you a special interest minority group ENTITLEMENT hand out, it becomes a PUBLIC matter. This is NOT the government trying to force its way into your bedroom, its you trying to force your bedroom onto the government/culture at large.
A democratic society has the right to set its boundaries for acceptable/not acceptable behaivior within its jurisdiction. Unless your ready to toss out the democracy and adopt socialism like Red...are you?
I cant get it in my head why people think their private bedroom extends to the courthouse steps.