reply to post by retirednature
I've always wondered why people would believe that Judas betrayed Jesus for a little silver, I mean... cmon, it's Jesus right? JustSayin'
Actually, many people didn't believe Jesus was who he said he was. When he told Judas to follow him "Spiritually" there would have been an inner
war inside of Judas as far as the old "ego" ways programmed by the world, Versus, the new heart, Love, Peace based ways the Jesus was teaching.
In that schism/war going on inside of Judas, it wouldn't have been surprising for Judas to fall to the Ego's tricks and agree to silver for giving
up Jesus, especially considering that a large portion of the "Old Gurad" was arguing that Jesus is a threat to the status quo.
Doesn't it make more sense that Jesus, in order to finish his plan and become immortalized forever would have to go through with the crucifixion, in
which Judas helped move along?
If you look at the history of any mystic, monks, hermit, or saint who taught a selfless ego death path that bumped up against the status quo, there
are many example of that person being beaten, imprisoned, killed, tortured for teaching Enlightenment
But if you tell it that way, it takes away from the 'evilness' that was his persecution and crucifixion, it just wouldn't jive. Excuse my
ignorance, but to me... it all seems very, hmmm... Socrates like, or Plato's account of Socrates' execution. Now, I've always been under the
impression that if there was never Socrates, Plato, and Pythagoras(countless others, but you get the point) that there would have never been the story
of Jesus. The form, the means, the style, the entire discussion that is the New Testament just seems like a rehash of Ancient Greek Philosophy. Am I
the only one? I know there's plenty of self proclaimed biblical scholars on ATS, so I thought I'd share and get some opinions. Maybe learn a thing
or two, hopefully three.
I'm actually an Espouser of the Gospel of Thomas, considering its the oldest of all the currently existing NT texts and is very buddhist, zen,
nondual, philosophical, and neo-platonic in its message. I believe it is the deeper teachings of Christ that he taught in secret to the select few,
because the average Joe wouldn't "get it" per se.
With that in mind, I am open to considering Gospel of Judas as a possibility, and at the end of the day, to me it doesn't matter whether its the way
the Bible says it happened with Judas, or the way the Gospel of Judas says it happened.
It would be like buying a new car and having to choose whether I want it in pearl white or midnight black.
Tbh, in the grand scheme of things Jesus came to show a way to Enlightenment, Spiritual Awakening, Ego Death, Mystical Grace, and so forth. Does the
difference in whether or not Judas sold him out or was asked willingly to give him up, change the main purpose and message?
Not at all.