Originally posted by Wookiep
you are just supporting the main stream liberal agenda
Depends on what the issue is. In some areas, yes..100%. in some areas, not so much, and in some areas, opposition. Issue by issue. Scoially, I am
highly liberal, fiscally, I am conservative/responsible minded. pay for what you do type thing.
wanting the govt to intervene in every move and action
nonsense. this shows you have no actual understanding of proper liberalism...(hint, its in the name)
You seem to think the govt can solve social issues like gay marriage,
They can, that's why they are elected. smart laws to force equality in areas that the state is involved in. segregation, gay marriage, women
voting..yes..the government can solve these issues.
Acceptance? church actually marrying gay people? no..thats for the people. but the legal framework starts and stops with the government.
or better yet govt fixing disagreements on the whole topic. lol, you along with most liberals have lost your way on this if you think that is the
No, disagreements is part of the people..we can disagree on many things. but governments job is to make sure that the framework for legal issues is
equal. Government is not passing edicts that require you to like gays, different races, or women..they are simply passing laws that equal the rights
of the various groups. Its your right as a citizen to freely hate, love, or feel indifferent about whatever you want.
states and local govt to decide since not all regions in the U.S. will think like you do
Incorrect here. states should not decide who gets rights and who doesn't. You and I actually think alike on the subject here though. Ron Paul
believed such stuff should be completely out of the governments hands. I agree.its a religious institution.
But since its not..since there are tax breaks, many legal things, etc..state run, then it is then required to serve equally. No different than a
different color of skin here
Don't even try to preach to me what you think "freedom and democracy" is.
I have the freedom to speak my mind..so ya, I will try..and do. your choice to listen or not
unfit parent. How sad of you sir. That's just pathetic.
Actually, didn't say you. said anyone whom doesn't teach morality and principles. You should stop wanting to be offended and actually read what is
I disagree fully with your notion that you should not broach the subject of social realities to a child of any age (within context of their age). They
can grow up immune or shocked when they first hear about their friend with two moms or whatever...to not teach them a reality of the land makes them
unprepared and will then be taught by someone else in their way.
So. without me even giving my *personal* stance on religion in this thread since it is un-related to the topic at hand, you choose to give your view
of the subject as it somehow relates to gay marriage?
Was responding to your mock outrage comparing no religion taught with accepting the rights of others in their private life. you were the one that went
off the rails into absurdism, I simply responded of the difference between the two subjects.
"If you believe it's perfectly acceptable not to teach your child that gay marriage is good and proper by the age of 5, then you are an immoral
person not deserving of acceptance from our society and an unfit parent. You must conform to my beliefs (societies), or else you and your child are
hateful and fearful people."
That about sums it up.
No, that is wildly off point. you don't have to accept its good or proper..you must accept that people should lead their lives how they want so long
as it harms none. To this, damn right I got an agenda..leave me alone and I will leave you alone agenda. If I want to marry a consenting adult, then
my neighbors have not a damn thing to say about it, period..and anyone giving a different opinion is -wrong-..black and white, day and night here..one
of the very few things that is binary in its principles.
You don't have to like it. personally, I find the idea of gay marriage both unattractive (as I am straight), and ridiculous considering its a bit
pointless and it is a corruption of religion...so until we get a viable ron paul get the government out of all marriage proposal, then its all about
equality..even to the people we don't necessarily like.
and -that- is the message, and one I will most certainly spread..to you, your son, my family, and anyone whom will listen.
and there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it...because that's another thing us wacky libs believe in...the liberty to speak our minds.