N. Korean satellite orbits over U.S.

reply to post by Plan2exist18


Then one day the typical American will wake up and realize there is a Global agenda behind all of this and whatever NK and Iran would like to do... as the last 2 nations on Earth "not with the program" these are nations being setup on all sides from all nations, banks etc, etc.... There is of course cuba.....and Raul steps down in 5 years..so no

Originally posted by conspiracytheoristIAM
reply to post by SheldonCooper

 

Try going to that site and check out orbit for KMS 3-2 from 4-8-13 to 4-17-13.

4-14-13 - This damn thing is right above my head. I know it and predicted it many times, that the super power Germany is the the real target of NK.

The satellite is in a decaying orbit and will crash in some 10 hours.

Originally posted by ElohimJD


My father was a chief designer of the Star Wars program while serving as director of Aerospace engineering in the USAF and is the author of one of the three possible "worst case scenario" plans located in a safe beneath the white house for thermonuclear global war. He also designed the Titan IV and Titan V rockets as well as the Delta unit.

The president will choose which of the three plans in the moment they are needed.

I am saying this because I suggested this exact hypothetical scenario to him over dinner a few weeks ago and his response was "there is nothing we have that would be able to prevent that angle of attack should they pursue its ends".

If the designer of a military "worst case scenario" determined this would be a successful plot, is your confidence still as high? Maybe it is; and that's ok.



God Bless,

*cough cough* followed by 2 letters.

reply to post by LastStarfighter


Where are you getting this?

reply to post by LastStarfighter


If it was in a decaying orbit then it would be dropping lower and lower. It's currently near Africa, at an altitude of 561 km. It's normal orbit has been plotted to an altitude of between 503 and 580 km. If it was 10 hours away from crashing, it would be lower than that, and dropping fast.

Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by Plan2exist18

 

Then one day the typical American will wake up and realize there is a Global agenda behind all of this and whatever NK and Iran would like to do... as the last 2 nations on Earth "not with the program" these are nations being setup on all sides from all nations, banks etc, etc.... There is of course cuba.....and Raul steps down in 5 years..so no

Your forgetting Venezuela and Sudan, both of which have state owned central banks. Then there are also a handful of countries around the world that are still not, "with the program," as you say. They would include countries like Syria, Eritrea, Zimbabwe Bolivia, Ecuador, Algeria, Belarus, and perhaps Iceland, which is a topic all to itself. Sorry to single you out, I have just seen too many posts about NK and Iran being the last countries not to have a "Rothschild controlled bank," and just wanted to put this out in the hopes more people research beyond those two countries.

Originally posted by Canadianpride420

Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by Plan2exist18

 

Then one day the typical American will wake up and realize there is a Global agenda behind all of this and whatever NK and Iran would like to do... as the last 2 nations on Earth "not with the program" these are nations being setup on all sides from all nations, banks etc, etc.... There is of course cuba.....and Raul steps down in 5 years..so no

Your forgetting Venezuela and Sudan, both of which have state owned central banks. Then there are also a handful of countries around the world that are still not, "with the program," as you say. They would include countries like Syria, Eritrea, Zimbabwe Bolivia, Ecuador, Algeria, Belarus, and perhaps Iceland, which is a topic all to itself. Sorry to single you out, I have just seen too many posts about NK and Iran being the last countries not to have a "Rothschild controlled bank," and just wanted to put this out in the hopes more people research beyond those two countries.

Well... fair.... to a degree. Let me rephrase it's not JUST about banks and the last 2 that matter...

Syria... nearly finished, Venezuela... come on we just finished Chavez off very recently... Nations that are completely 3rd world will have time, last phase

But larger than Banking is culture, it's not hard to assume if your a globalist that as nations develop they will ask to be on board for the benefits...but to be willing to fall in line you have to have a culture that can "blend"

I'd say Iran and NK are the last 2 "modernized nations" that walk to the beat of a different drummer.... potentially dangerous via WMD,s capable of mattering to the global economy one way or another and absolutely unwilling to do what Russia, China, Europe, America and all proxies have done which is move to a system of economics, culture and values that are shared... Some form of socialized Capitalism seems to be the rule of the day, state power, tolerance, marginalization of religion etc etc etal.....

Iran is a Theocracy, NK is hardcore Communist.... this is why those 2 are top agenda...

If you watch the same Movies and listen to roughly the same news...you'll end up eventually using the same money

Correct me if I am wrong but according to www.n2yo.com... the satellite passes us in polar orbit everyday at around 2000-2200 hours. So I don't see a whole lot of threat from this at all. But then again maybe I am wrong and it is not always over us IDK.

reply to post by conspiracytheoristIAM


If it's an EMP weapon surely the U.S has weapons in space or missiles capable of destroying it. Didn't the U.S have to blow up one of their own satellites a few years back because of re-entry with toxic fuel? something like that anyway.

reply to post by EA006


The USS Lake Eerie, off the coast of Hawaii fired an SM-3 that impacted the satellite, causing it to break apart on reentry.

Originally posted by penninja

Originally posted by Canadianpride420

Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by Plan2exist18

 

Then one day the typical American will wake up and realize there is a Global agenda behind all of this and whatever NK and Iran would like to do... as the last 2 nations on Earth "not with the program" these are nations being setup on all sides from all nations, banks etc, etc.... There is of course cuba.....and Raul steps down in 5 years..so no

Your forgetting Venezuela and Sudan, both of which have state owned central banks. Then there are also a handful of countries around the world that are still not, "with the program," as you say. They would include countries like Syria, Eritrea, Zimbabwe Bolivia, Ecuador, Algeria, Belarus, and perhaps Iceland, which is a topic all to itself. Sorry to single you out, I have just seen too many posts about NK and Iran being the last countries not to have a "Rothschild controlled bank," and just wanted to put this out in the hopes more people research beyond those two countries.

Well... fair.... to a degree. Let me rephrase it's not JUST about banks and the last 2 that matter...

Syria... nearly finished, Venezuela... come on we just finished Chavez off very recently... Nations that are completely 3rd world will have time, last phase

But larger than Banking is culture, it's not hard to assume if your a globalist that as nations develop they will ask to be on board for the benefits...but to be willing to fall in line you have to have a culture that can "blend"

I'd say Iran and NK are the last 2 "modernized nations" that walk to the beat of a different drummer.... potentially dangerous via WMD,s capable of mattering to the global economy one way or another and absolutely unwilling to do what Russia, China, Europe, America and all proxies have done which is move to a system of economics, culture and values that are shared... Some form of socialized Capitalism seems to be the rule of the day, state power, tolerance, marginalization of religion etc etc etal.....

Iran is a Theocracy, NK is hardcore Communist.... this is why those 2 are top agenda...

If you watch the same Movies and listen to roughly the same news...you'll end up eventually using the same money

I'm not very good at being able to quote and answer all nicely like some members can, so please forgive the lack of organization in this reply. Syria, nearly finished? I strongly disagree and actually argue it is the terrorists, or "rebels," that are just about finished. They will never, I repeat, NEVER, be able to achieve victory in Syria without direct assistance from NATO. Fighter jets, bombers, special forces, etc. These same terrorists would of been wiped out in Benghazi, Libya when they surrounded by the Libyan armed forces, before NATO came in bombs a dropping.

You really believe that Chavez dying is finishing off Venezuela? Please...Same regarding Cuba..Raul Castro stepping down in Cuba won't change a thing, besides the face at the top. Remember the Bay of pigs or the ousting of Chavez in 2006? The people of Cuba and Venezuela have shown that they agree with the ways things are run in those countries currently.

I agree with your statement on controlling the culture of a country or society is much more important in terms of controlling and manipulating the masses. But controlling the banks and resources allows these countries to do things for themselves, without crippling interest rates and fees. And when these countries grow and the standard of living increases, people see that, and with that brings loyalty. Without controlling the banks and resources, these countries would not have the same support from their populations.

I also see your point about NK and Iran being a much bigger threat than any of the other countries mentioned, and NK in particular due to how little we really know about them in the large scope of things. Iran is becoming more and more a threat because they are expanding influence(Iraq for example) and upgrading their military capabilities.

There is another issue at play here though, and one that is not talked about often. Iraq and Libya both abandoned their nuclear weapon programs. Look what happened to both of them shortly after. I remember reading an article from NK shortly after Gaddafi was killed, and they were saying to the tune of that countries cannot survive against the US without having that threat of nuclear weapons, and they cited Libya and Iraq as examples of countries that may of not been attacked had they still had the programs.

The overall point I'm trying to make in terms of the culture vs bank argument..is that you also need to have control of the banks and resources to have proper control.

reply to post by Canadianpride420


I'd have to disagree.... people like peace and conflict wearies them... religion can't possibly stand the test of time over science either...

The reality is... the Antichrist isn't behind globalism, the world is actually pretty freakin awesome

The problem with your thinking and most people in North America is your mind has no flex because FEAR leaves some deep imprints on the brain so cold war thinking lingers hard...but the reality is this NWO Globalist movement thing kicks ass for the most part, the Kids aren't being "Indoctrinated" they WANT In.... as do I

No young person In Cuba or Venezuela wants to be part of some socialist boring crap life, bad clothes old cars... they want Internet, flat screens.... they want to play Starcraft with me and my friends in South Korea not be an isolated Pariah State

Places like Venezuela and Cuba wont change? Russia and China did lol.... cult of personality to dynamic leaders like Castro and Chavez ONLY holds them where they are.... people want robots to work for them not to roll up their sleeves and be "workers" lol

Syria wont balk?The minute Assad dies sure they will.... Mohammed Islam will have more power? Come on, everyone knows that as fanatical and crazy as Irans leadership is the minute it dies off the youth generation behind it will rise and it's over...

You really overestimate the power of ideologies in a day of Internet the only way Iran and NK exist is by attempting to block every outside word... but realistically the act of turning citizens into scientist to compete with our technology dooms them to have to face reality

These nations can't even win if they win...

Let's take the Koreas, what happens when 1 Million North Korean troops enter South Korea? See modern Cars... See beautiful women, Listen to Modern music access the Internet? North Korea is over in X amount of time from that moment because then everyone knows the truth an attack on the south is a culture bomb detonated in NK

And who is going to care? In places like Venezuela and Cuba? among the people? The general population.... it doesn't get tiring? being poor of entertainment? Bombs going off on your street? Over what a philosophy that has been rejected by the very nations that brought it to you in the first place? Moscow is a Fashion Capitol... Beijing has women strolling about with foo foo dogs in handbags and people are buying sports cars?

You know what our only issue with Russia and China is?

How to go about it... America lacks the historical perspective of older nations like Russia and China who understand this will happen naturally be it if force it via bomb or not.... that's why they leaned our way after all... Why bomb Iran when it will fall in 10-15 years anyway? etc... we rush everything, we are young.

PAC3 missiles in Tokyo, Japan is preparing as best it can:

reuters.livestation.com...

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by EA006

 

The USS Lake Eerie, off the coast of Hawaii fired an SM-3 that impacted the satellite, causing it to break apart on reentry.

Linky?

reply to post by Signals


Not the North Korean one, the US one that he was talking about, USA-193 (NRO-21).

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by bbracken677

 

and then, north korea hit the U.S. with a massive EMP from a satellite, and invaded...

Invades how though? In what? Just which NK planes or boats are going to make it here (and even if they had the range, how would they get here unmolested?). Hence the fiction.

i brought it up, so i'll answer.....go back, and check out my post...yes, it's fiction, but plausible...i mean, some of it already happened, lol

am i saying seriously, that this is how things will go down? no, absolutely not, that would be silly....what i'm saying is that life is imitating art, and that's always a bit creepy, wouldn't you agree?

Originally posted by penninja
North Korea doesn't have the Gas to fight a war for 3 days.... the USA is the worlds leading Oil supplier now and their stupid satellite is monitored 24/7 and can be jammed shot down and we have satellites that can hack and take over other satellites

If you you want to know about an EMP threat ask yourself what kind of payload the US military shuttle carries.

um....last time i checked, the U.S. was number 3 in oil production.....

the military shuttle is kinda concerning..we have no idea wtf is on it, or what it's doing up there..it's the ultimate drone..

Well, since there is still two North Korean subs missing here is what I would order them to do (if I was in NK command) I would have loaded a nuke on each one (or a dirty bomb - whatever was available), gotten as close to (or in) Tokyo Bay. Detonate them.

They likely know firing off missiles is going to do little or no good. That is why they are promoting so much on a missile launch, get us looking away from their true intent. You would co-ordinate this with an all out attack on South Korea. North Korea is only going to get one shot at this if they take the final step.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by ElohimJD

 

And there are forces all over the world that could either return home

they have to know something happened here first....no comms means nobody knows there's a problem right away...